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This page is an archive of the proposal to begin a Featured Works selection process, much like Featured articles, and to select a Featured Works review board. The result was that the proposal passed, and Kathkira, Katana Geldar and Vagrant Lustoid were elected as the Featured Works review board members.
Please do not post here, as this is an archive of a former discussion. Any further comments may be made on the talk page.

A glorious utopia of fan-fiction writers and studious readers - celebrated and complimented and in turn, complimenting the vast majority of the article writers on Star Wars Fanon.
—Jedi Master 76 on the Featured Works[src]

This is something that I've been thinking about for a couple months. The Star Wars Fanon Wiki counts among its members many writers, and the more talented and prolific of those are able to have some of their creations achieve the label of Featured Article, and have their work highlighted on the wiki's Main Page, receive accolades, enjoy punch and pie, and other nifty little perks. It's an honor, to be sure.

However, in the past year or so, the wiki has seen a rise in the number of quality fan-fiction works. And I'm not talking the laughable ones that have two paragraphs of text about Darth Awesome and how he had Epic Adventures. I'm talking novels of over 50,000 words. I'm talking short stories with more than 6,000 words. I'm talking real works. Believe it or not, there's plenty to choose from. Heritage, anyone? Knights of the Old Republic: Convict's Dawn. Force Exile I: Fugitive. A handful of partially-complete works like Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One, Star Wars: Knighthood, and Star Wars: The Lost Mantra. And don't feel bad if I left your work out—these were some of the ones that came to mind when I was writing this. The point is, the stuff is out there, and it's not getting any publicity despite its quality.

This has to do with an obvious limitation in the featured article system—it's not designed for fan-fiction. I've done the DL thing, and it just doesn't mesh. To put a novel or short story or novella into article format and make it an FA, is well, impossible, now that the bar on FAs has finally been upped. So, aside from the nebulous possibility of winning something in a Wiki Awards—so far a single award once a year—(and novels/fanfics only started to be recognized last year), there's no kind of recognition or status for these articles to achieve. And, having written a number of FAs on Wookieepedia, and several fanworks here, about a 150 KB FA is the work equivalent of a decent 60,000 word novel.

I'd like to change that. And not just because I write fanfic. If it was just me, I wouldn't propose something like this. I don't have the need to elevate myself on the internet by advertising what I write. I'm proposing it for the other hard-working authors out there who write a good story and hope that people randomly decide to read it instead of thinking "TL;DR". I'm proposing it so people from other fanfic communities, where narrative is the bread and butter, not the ubiquitous encyclopediac style seen on SWF, can see this wiki as a place to express their creativity. (Cough, TF.N cough.)

So, here's what I'm proposing. We make something new to go along with the FAs and GAs, because retooling those to work with narrative just won't work. Say, we call it a featured work. Now, to clarify, what exactly this means is:

  1. A featured work will have a new eras icon for the work in question.
  2. A featured work will have an author-selected excerpt from the work displayed on the Main Page for a month (since there aren't enough to go around for a week)
  3. A featured work will be recognized by the community as a quality work of prose.

To gain this status, here are the requirements:

  1. The work must be finished, unless it is a novel (> 50,000 words). Full completion on a novel is strongly recommended, but if it is not, then it should be at least roughly 3/4 finished and have no major edits pending. What defines sufficient completion for a mostly finished work will lie in the majority opinion of the review board defined below.
  2. The work must be of sufficient length as to merit featured work status. A general qualifier is 50,000 words for a novel and 5,000 words for a short story, at a minimum. If other categories of work are nominated, it will be at the discretion of the review board described below as to an appropriate length.
  3. The work must be of sufficient quality to merit featured work status and display on the Main Page. That said, a group of three (3) people will be appointed to examine the work overall and have various powers related to judgment calls on nominations as described above. This does not entail reading the whole thing—that's optional and/or recommended. This entails skimming over it and making sure there are no massive plot holes, gobs of ridiculousness, Mary Sues, inappropriate content, and/or utter stupidity. This is not as demanding a job as, say, the Council of Seers, but will require a decent amount of participation.
  4. It almost goes without saying that the Featured Work excerpt to be displayed on the Main Page must be of good taste, interesting, less than 300 words, and completely free of spelling and grammar errors. All of these considerations lie with the sole purview of the 3 people chosen to place in charge of this.
  5. It must receive at least (2/3) votes from the review board and, say, 5 votes from the community to become a featured work. The community vote number is somewhat negotiable. This is to encourage participation, without dragging out nominations forever. 2 out of 3 of these review board members can also remove a nomination if they believe it is of particularly low quality.
  6. A cover is preferred but not absolutely mandatory. Better to have no cover than a bad cover.
One last thing:
  • The idea of having photonovels as FWs has been brought to my attention…having never read or written a photonovel, I'm sort of neutral, but I put some thought into it, and come up with these ideas. A photonovel or fan comic would need to satisfy the last 4 requirements above.
  1. It would have to be finished if it has less than 100 separate images, or roughly 3/4 way complete if it has more.
  2. It must have a minimum of fifty separate images. I'm taking a ballpark guess at a reasonable number.

Now, all this said, I considered the idea of having a two-tier system, like FA and GA, but had a hard time justifying 2 new structures. That's too much, and there aren't that many fanfics. I've seen the pertinent categories, and didn't want to get carried away on this grand experiment.

Now, the voting. Here's what you're voting about:

  • To create the featured work system and its voting/quality requirements.
  • To place a different featured work excerpt on the Main Page for each month.
  • To create the review board organization (Sorry, I don't have a snappy name based on my fanon to put here). Oh, and vote on those people too.
  • Whether or not to include photonovels as Featured Works.
  • To necessitate a Main Page redesign to accommodate the featured work box. I've talked with Vic about this already and he has promised uber-l33tness of epic proportions. Or something like that. given us lies about a Main Page redesign. Tongue I've looked into that, and Drewton is revamping the Main Page in a shadowy lair as we speak.
  • To create a new eras icon to designate featured works. Suggestions welcome.
  • To create a page devoted to featured works and their nominations, along the lines of the FAN page.

This'll last until 17 October, though elections for the board can continue even if/once the FW structure itself is complete. If it looks like it'll be approved, I'll even make the FWN (Featured Work Nomination) page(s). Then, there'll be some nominations to get a queue going. If all goes according to plan, Featured Works will start appearing on the Main Page on 1 November.

Voting[]

Approve the idea, sans photonovels and fan comics[]

Approve the idea, with photonovels and fan comics (successful)[]

  1. TL;DR — JM76 Ask Archives Sabersmilyjm76 03:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. As long as we keep true to the consensus to use proper grammar. None of that all-caps nonsense. ;) --Victor Vic sig logo talk 03:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me) (My contributions) 03:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 04:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. --Kathkira talk 04:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. Sure, why not?--LordBenderNightmare975 05:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  7. Damn, I thought I'd approved this... --Darth tom sig (talk) (contributions) 16:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  8. Convengo, los camaradas. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 16:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  9. Sounds good. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 17:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  10. Indeed yes. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 17:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  11. Belatedly, as proposer. I forgot to vote earlier. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 18:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  12. Vagrant Lustoid (Talk) 02:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose the idea[]

Review board members[]

  • Don't nominate/vote for yourself.

Kathkira (successful)[]

(+13)[]

Support[]

  1. After discussing it with her on IRC, I believe Kathkira is qualified and committed to this process and would make a good review board candidate. This endorsement signed and approved by Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 18:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Seconded. --Darth tom sig (talk) (contributions) 18:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Aye. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 18:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. Per my interactions with her on IRC. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. Yes. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me) (My contributions) 02:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 02:05, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
  7. — JM76 Ask Archives Sabersmilyjm76 02:23, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
  8. Vagrant Lustoid (Talk) 02:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
  9. Of course! --Victor Vic sig logo talk 00:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
  10. Why not!--LordBenderNightmare975 06:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  11. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 14:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  12. I suppose. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 16:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  13. I know it's probably not needed, but I just want to show my support.-- CurrentBigThing (Speak) 16:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose[]

Comments[]

The same goes for here as for my comments on Katana's nom below. Kathkira has only voted on one GAN in the last month, in which she supported the article and said "Good", and nothing more. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 23:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Katana Geldar (successful)[]

(+9)[]

Support[]

  1. After careful screening, I believe this user has the fanon expertise to help with this, and she accepted the nom on my talk page. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 06:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Yup. --Victor Vic sig logo talk 06:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Perfect for this job.--LordBenderNightmare975 06:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me) (My contributions) 08:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. Per all the above. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 12:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. Yes. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 13:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  7. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 14:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  8. Per Ataru. --Kathkira talk 06:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  9. For now. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 16:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose[]

Comments[]

  • Ataru, what do you mean by "careful screening"? Do you mean a series of difficult questions related to this position, or what? The reason I ask is because, after searching the history on the GAN page, Katana has not voted or even commented once on any noms in the last month. I did not look back any further than a month, since I didn't feel it to be necessary. My point is, if you're basing these noms on screening, then boy, I'd love to be screened too. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 23:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Since when does this have anything to do with Good article voting? Someone doesn't have to take GAN voting into consideration when looking to see who would be best on this review board if they don't want to, since it has nothing to do with Good articles. Based on conversations I've had with Ataru on IRC, I believe that his "careful screening" would be her works of fan fiction and her reviews of other works of fan fiction on TheForce.Net boards, where Katana is an active member in the Fan Fiction boards. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 23:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I see. I was not aware of her reviews on TheForce.net. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 23:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Rhea's done a good job of answering this for me, so I'll be brief. For one, I don't give a wooden nickel about how active someone is in GAN, and the misconception that a user's critical judgment is somehow founded in that institution is well, absurd to me. Rhea is correct-I based my screenings on a number of things, including the quality of her own fan-fiction, and her own activities on TF.N. Particularly notable was the fact that, based on her TF.N postings, she does look to be involved in SWF and seeks to promote fan-fiction as well as encyclopediac articles. As for the idea of how I pick people to be screened, I will support the candidates I choose based on the criterion I have set for what I believe is a good member of this board. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 23:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • is blushing*, thanks guys. Katana Geldar 09:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Vagrant Lustoid (sucessful)[]

(+9)[]

Support[]

  1. Vagrant Lustoid first approached me about the position on IRC, and I told him that I would give him the same screening process as I'd given Katana Geldar. The fact that he volunteered means a lot, and I can personally attest to the quality of his writing. It's more than sufficient, even if he's not had the time to put the tweaks on it and post it. He's also stated that he has plenty of time to handle this job and fully understands the responsibility. Therefore, I endorse this individual for the review board. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 00:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. If Ataru thinks he's good for it, then I'll support him. Since this will be hard work, much harder than simply reviewing articles, we need everyone who wants to join, IMO. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 00:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Good guy, looks like the one for the job. — JM76 Ask Archives Sabersmilyjm76 01:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. It's a support, but not a full one. It has nothing to do with Vagrant's abilities to do the job, but because I haven't seen him do much in this regard. I'm just going by Ataru's standards here. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 02:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. --Victor Vic sig logo talk 05:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. --Darth tom sig (talk) (contributions) 19:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  7. Oh yes.--Arav the Undersith (Contact Me) (My contributions) 19:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  8. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 20:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  9. Katana Geldar 10:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
  10. Per above, especially Ataru. --Kathkira talk 07:16, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Neutral[]

  1. Per my comments below. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 03:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose[]

Reworked the first few sections. Need a break now, since it's so laaaaame.
—Vagrant Lustoid on Sith-venator Wavingstrider's history.
  1. Sorry, but he has to behave himself first. See this. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 13:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • All I see is good faith edit with a sarcastic comment, which, FYI, means "uninspiring and dull" (definition of lame). Since when can't we say that? ;) --Victor Vic sig logo talk 19:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
      • Our definitions of sarcastism is subjective and a dictionary can't really do a good job of incorporating everyone's concept of the word lame. I find that for me at least (you don't have to agree with me), it implies a harsher meaning than bad, silly, or nonsense. It's like the word "hate", which implies a stronger meaning of the word "dislike". I just don't want users attacking other user's articles with words of that intensity. There's also the fact that he added extra letters to lame to place emphasis on the word. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 19:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. I really don't think simply volunteering and having written a story are good enough. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 16:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • No offense, but you pretty much said that after you were able to vote again, you would accept a nomination for this board (see here). You have nothing to do with fan fiction and you haven't been able to participate in a vote for months, but you did say you were somewhat active in Good article nominations which have absolutely nothing to do with this. If being somewhat active in a totally unrelated nomination process, without the ability to vote, and having nothing to do with fan fiction, which is what Featured works is about, makes you qualified for this position, how is Vagrant not qualified? I'm not saying this in a negative sense, but it's just to question your reasoning in a good-natured discussion. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
      • Obi maul12, I say that he fits the basic job description, but I only have one objection. I just don't want users telling other users that their articles are lame. Other than that, he'll be a good reviewer, but I can't have users placing "lame" in their reviews. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 19:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Ataru has used words stronger than "lame" in reviews, if I remember correctly, more than once but you didn't oppose him. Vagrant uses the word "lame" once, yet that qualifies for an opposition? - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Sorry, but that's because I wasn't aware Ataru did that. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 19:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • It didn't say it was hidden; I said that I didn't know. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 20:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Alright, I'll admit I shouldn't have told Arav yes. However, I still feel the same about this; I don't like nominating users just for the sake of nominating them and having them elected. I feel the nominee should have a true connection to the position. I don't feel that Vagrant really has that connection. And one other thing: the fact that I wasn't able to vote for months wasn't because I made some nasty personal attack against someone; we both know that my little slip-up wasn't anything big (of course, I am thankful you didn't ban me for 6 months.) Anyway, I just don't think this would work. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 20:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Well, I think Ataru has established himself as someone who isn't going to nominate someone just for the sake of nominating them. He is, without a doubt, the harshest critic of this website. My point of view on this one is that if he feels Vagrant is good enough for his (Ataru's) personal creation, then that's very telling. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 20:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    Yea...and no....and...well...I see what you're saying. I just don't think this specific user is qualified enough, and I just want this to go well. I'll have to say I'm neutral. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 21:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments[]

Unit 8311 (withdrawn)[]

(-2)[]

Support[]

  1. He is a great writer and I think he will done just fine.--Arav the Undersith (Contact Me) (My contributions) 10:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose[]

  1. He's active in reviewing Good articles and he's pretty good at it, and he's also drastically improved in quality since joining Project Cruentus. Therefore, reviewing and writing abilities don't have anything to do with this opposition. Right now, there are two reasons why I'm offering up an opposition: first, he doesn't have much to do with fan fiction at this point, so I would like to see him become more involved in that (let me quote one of Ataru's rules of fan fiction: don't write for acclaim or awards, so therefore don't take what I'm saying as a challenge and start writing a narrative simply so you can get my vote); second, I want to see how he can handle responsibilities with CUSWFN first (since he'll likely be the co-head), and if he seems to be handling that well then a position on the Featured Works board or even the Council of Seers could be in his future. Therefore, don't consider this an opposition in terms of "OMG NEVER CAN YOU DO THIS", but rather an opposition based on me just wanting to see how other things go first. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Per Rhea, except that I have reviewed one of his earlier short stories and would like to see him improve in that area as well, though not for the purpose of getting this position. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 23:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, per the above. --Victor Vic sig logo talk 18:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments[]

  • I don't see Unit's explicit permission for this nom, based on his talk page. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 17:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm neutral because I don't want him to have to resign from CUSWFN due to a lack of time. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 02:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm actually still deciding. Neutrality can't really be an option for me in this selection, because I would like to see a fine board of reviewers for something as different as this (narratives rather than just encyclopedic articles). So expect an actual vote soon. --Victor Vic sig logo talk 03:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I really don't know if I want this. Theoretically, I could be up to the job, but I've got Cruentus, GA, and CUSFWN to think about. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 14:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Unit, if you accept this nomination (while making sure you'd have enough time for this position), I'll support it. You are active on the noms, and that's what we need. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 23:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Per the points made by Ataru and Rhea, I have decided that I do not want this nomantion, and even if I did want it and passed, I'd probably make a bad job of it. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 19:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Atarumaster88 (withdrawn)[]

(+4)[]

Support[]

  1. His brain child, plus he has always been a great reviewer on both encyclopedic articles and [the best in] narrative work. So I say, why not? ;) --Victor Vic sig logo talk 03:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Do it! Do it! Do it! - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 03:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  3. I lol'd. — JM76 Ask Archives Sabersmilyjm76 03:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  4. I'll support him unless he decides to decline. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 12:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  5. Per all above. Drewton Era-old (Drewton's Holocron) 13:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  6. Unit 83111110 Big smallTalk! 14:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  7. Doubt he'll take it. --Darth tom sig (talk) (contributions) 16:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose[]

  1. He has too much on his plate and it most certainly looks like he is going to decline this nomination. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me) (My contributions) 05:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  2. Considering he just stepped down from another position, I doubt he'll take this one. No offense.--LordBenderNightmare975 06:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments[]

  • Do it, Ataru! It is your destiny! :P --Victor Vic sig logo talk 03:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Undecided, but certainly leaning towards declining this nomination. The DL thing was enough. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 03:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I've seen a great deal of Ataru's reviewing, and I believe him to be more than capable for this position (so long as he has the time). -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12) (Chow) 23:34, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I will certainly support Ataru, should he choose not to decline this nom. --Kathkira talk 06:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • In light of my endorsement of Vagrant Lustoid, I will be declining this nomination, so as to allow the election of the three review board members I endorsed. I appreciate the nomination, and had other qualified individuals not stepped up to fill these roles or if the size of the board had needed to be larger, I would have served on this board, but I feel that the candidates I have endorsed are the best for these roles, and so I will bow out so as to avoid interfering in the coalescing of the review board team. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 00:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Notes[]

This is like a comments/questions section, right? Okay, question: should video clips/animations/movies like The Fanon Menace be included in this? What about video games like the yet-to-be-completed Avian Hunt? Some of these have just as much potential to be great works of Star Wars Fanon that sure well can be featured if they're deemed good enough. We could even go as far as to include music compositions, but I'd have a monopoly on that as of the moment.

Question two: Does the review board have to be different from the Council of Seers? Since it's a monthly thing, there's not too much added pressure, and it's a bit more leisurely (for me at least) to read fanfictions and photonovels than to read encyclopedic articles. Or what if we allowed the Council to offer their votes voluntarily on the nominations for Featured Works, while the new council does it "mandatorily?" That way there can be a bit of a connection between the two groups, if there must be two groups. I'd trust everyone on the Council right now to review the novels and short stories of Star Wars Fanon in a fair way, so I'm kind of eager to let them have a say in what goes into FW. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication | Dragons I've Slayed Sabersmilyc3po 18:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

  • On the first, I'm leaning towards a no. Where we have decent amounts of novels, short stories, and I guess photonovels that are complete enough that we can feature, I'm loathe to toss in things that are completely in a different format, particularly when they are so few in number. Were there to be a surge in numbers of quality fanfilms and video games, it would be something to consider, but I really dislike the idea of having video clips on the Main Page, which is the format that excerpts from those would most likely take. I'd say FA is still the better route for those. On the second, well, they have two completely different mandates and sets of rules, and I wouldn't want people pressured to feel they have to vote across the board if all they're interested in is FW. The idea of having the Council voluntarily offer their votes for this is interesting…I wouldn't necessarily oppose that, but for now, I think the proposal is fine as is. If there is interest in altering the proposal to include such a measure, feel free to add the voting option. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 19:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope. This is just Featured Works. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 23:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Echoing Rhea (again), I'd say no, though that could change if there's a sudden influx of narratives. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 23:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    I can see the point, possibly something to look at further down the track. And I wasn't suggesting we do it NOW, just consider it a future possibility. - Katana Geldar 07:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • You can see a preview of the featured work nominations page at my scratchpad. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 19:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, it looks great. --Michaeldsuarez Sabersmilygreend (Talk) (Deeds) 19:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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