Thread:SavageOpress1138/@comment-25898954-20151214192754/@comment-3528596-20151214210004

Hey! This administration loves bans! We used to lie out during bans and let the sun dry us and try to guess the names of the birds singing....

I don't like bans either. However, I stand by them in this case.

1) Yes, the blocking policy says two warnings. That said, this wasn't the first time I had to step in regarding civility in the page comments. I'd also given out several reminders about civility in the chat. Also, A New Dawn is not the first time for either of you to get civility reminders. The warnings apply to your entire wikia experience (within reason). A user who is warned for sockpuppetry once doesn't have to be warned twice more for sockpuppetry with a different account. Likewise, users with a history of civility issues are more likely to get longer bans. (I wouldn't consider either of you to have a dramatically bad civility history, mind you. If you had really bad civility history I would have banned you each for much longer.)

Could you start a vote to remove my admin powers? Absolutely. It's 100% in your rights. Do I think it would pass? Not for a moment. However, if you truly are concerned, it is an option.

2) I disagree to an extent. I also said "This conversation is over" which you both blatantly violated. As for Nick's comment, I don't particularly care. It may have been posted one second after mine, but it came after. He didn't apologize. He didn't send me a specific message (or new comment) addressing his violation. All he did was add a disclaimer. That doesn't cut it, IMHO.

From a very, very technical perspective, the argument could be made that your later comments were not "directly attacking". I will grant that. However, when your strongest argument against being temporarily blocked is word semantics, I don't think that's strong enough. The point of my comment was clear. Also, you simply cannot say "Sav can ban me all he wants" after I have clearly stated that continuing the argument will result in a ban, and not expect to get a ban. I'm sorry.

3) All I can say is that this was self-imposed. Not my fault. (For the record, neither of you were anywhere close to a week's ban).

I don't mind answering questions about the block. In fact, I would have been fine if you'd left this message on my community central wall during the block. You are certainly within your rights to discuss them.

As I said, though, I stand by these bans. Sakaros left a message on my wall about the issue. That means you were disrupting the wiki with the argument. I feel I was well within my rights to give you both a temporary, cool down ban.

I hope that addresses your questions/concerns. If not, I'm more than happy to ask another admin to weigh in with their opinion.