Star Wars Fanon:Good articles/Nominations

Star Wars Fanon's Good articles The good articles of the wiki are articles that represent the norm of Star Wars Fanon. Articles that no longer meet the criteria can be proposed for improvement or removal at Star Wars Fanon:High Priests.

What makes a good article or what article should you nominate to be good? To answer that, we've prepared a list just in case someone should ask that, and it is as follows.

An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip;be well written with enough detail to tell the entire story accurately and appropriately, though it does not have to be anywhere near the size that FAs should be as the Good Article main page states that some “cannot reach FA status as of yet due to its limited content”.
 * 2) &hellip;have at least five links to articles on Star Wars Fanon (if applicable).
 * 3) &hellip;be unbiased, neutral point of view.
 * 4) &hellip;be sourced with all available appearances.
 * 5) &hellip;be correctly categorized.
 * 6) &hellip;have all proper era icons.
 * 7) &hellip;not be tagged with any form of improvement tags at the time of nomination, or any other templates.
 * 8) &hellip;have a 150 word introduction that can be used in the Good Article History.
 * 9) &hellip;have absolutely no red links.
 * 10) &hellip;have a well detailed History section, and one that is complete if the character’s story is not continuing in novels/comics/etc., and a Post mortem section if the article is about a character that has died.
 * 11) &hellip;have a Personality and traits section for a character and Characteristics section if it is about a vehicle, class of vehicle, etc.
 * 12) &hellip;have a "Behind the Scenes" section for any interesting facts about the character's creation, etc.

How to nominate:
 * 1) First, nominate an article you find to be worthy of Good Article status by putting it at the bottom of the list below. Add GAnom to any nominated article. Please nominate in this format:
 * 2) Others will object to the nomination if they do not believe that the article is good enough. They will then supply reasons for doing so and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 3) Supporters will adjust the article until the objectors are satisfied
 * 4) The GAnom banner should be placed at the top of all nominated articles.
 * 1) Others will object to the nomination if they do not believe that the article is good enough. They will then supply reasons for doing so and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 2) Supporters will adjust the article until the objectors are satisfied
 * 3) The GAnom banner should be placed at the top of all nominated articles.
 * 1) The GAnom banner should be placed at the top of all nominated articles.

How to vote:
 * 1) Remember, you can only vote if you meet the requirements of the voting policy.
 * 2) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely and keep a sharp eye out for mistakes
 * 3) Afterward, either support or object the article’s nomination
 * 4) If you object the nomination, you must supply concrete reasons for doing so, as well as your suggestions as to how the article can be improved. If you do not provide a valid opposition, your vote will be removed.
 * 5) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters and anyone willing to improve the article. Action will be taken to please the objectors.

In addition, put the number sign, #, next to your name so the votes can be counted. Please sign your posts as well!

A small blue check in the top right corner of an article's page indicates that the article is a good article.

Current Standings

 * 1) Alexei Sudovencavic, Star Wars: Legion Commando (1)
 * 2) New Confederacy of Independent Systems (-1)

Support

 * 1) It's a shame I didn't get a chance to RP the guy, but I think I made a good story out of him anyway. Dexington 16:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

 * 1) The Legacy isn't really long enough even for GA, but because that's the only thing I'm not going to actually oppose this. I'd also suggest putting some more pictures towards the end of the article, as it gets boring looking after the last picture about halfway/three quarters of the way through. That's not really a requirement, but I'm merely throwing it out there as a visual suggestion. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]]  (Pressroom)  (Accomplishments)  18:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * Hey, I know its abit of a "mary sue", but I think it's just good enough to be GA.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:ProphetofRegret.jpg|30px]] 22:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I didn't immediately respond to this when it was nominated two days ago because I really wanted to think about it. However, I have come to a conclusion, and I'm giving this a very strong oppose vote. First, the history. For a government article, it's very weak. There's just not much in it. You speak about conflicts during the 10,000 years that it existed, but what are they? The New Republic retreated, but in 10,000 years odds are they were able to regroup. If they were defeated, they can regroup again. What about the New Jedi Order? What part did they have? You mentioned them only once. All of this should be written in detail and should be of substantial length. Honestly, three sections for a History section for a 10,000 year organization isn't enough. Also, with 10,000 years, by stating that length you're stating that it did eventually fall. How? Why? Explain that. Don't just remove the 10,000 year thing to avoid doing an official ending. That's a cop-out and I'd never vote for this article if you did that. Moving on, the Government and Politics section just needs a lot more in there. The Executive branch isn't explained all that much, and you barely cover the Legislative branch. What were their specific duties? How did they operate. Was their a Judicial branch? If so, what did it do? If not, who controlled that aspect of government? If you want to see a well written government section, I'd suggest looking at the Government and Politics section of the article on Wookieepedia. I'd suggest doing what they're working on at the end and include a section about the relationship with the New Jedi Order. Was there a relationship with the Jedi? If so, what was it like? Were the relations tense? Did the Confederacy destroy the Jedi? All of that needs to be answered in detail. Moving on to the culture section. You say that it's a mix of various cultures on the member worlds, but only talk about Neimoidian and Geonosian. What else? Why did hats and cloaks show power and status? What were the Geonosian holidays? What would members of the council do during their holidays? I'd suggest finding a different word than "liberal" to describe expression, because it's completely contradicted later in the sentence. I know what you're saying with it, but the word usage isn't the best. However, the next sentence doesn't make much sense. It seems to imply that because Troyb banned certain art, art became an "increasingly popular medium of expression". You say that more artists came to the forefront of society than in the New Republic. I doubt this, but what are your reasons? Finally, what about an economy? There should be an entire detailed section about that. What was their currency? What was it worth? What did the currency look like? My issues with the astrography sections have been somewhat fixed, but I still hate the whole scrolling list of two sentence explanations as to why certain planets are part of the New CIS. Anyway....whew, that took awhile. Basically, this article needs a lot of work and I really am getting sick of it being nominated for Good Article status when barely any perceived effort is being put into it. The opinions of people are not going to change just because you nominate it every few weeks. No one is going to vote for it again simply so we can stop seeing it nominated. I did that, it was a mistake and I'm not going to do it again. I'd also like to see you doing a lot of this from now on rather than seeing you ask a bunch of other people to do it for you. Don't take this as an insult. Use this as a means to really improve this article and to put a lot of effort into it. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]]  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  18:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Brandon nailed it as seen above, but I have some points of my own.
 * 3) *From where I'm standing, you and 8311 went to the absolute minimum to silence any criticism. We/I complained that the NCIS never lost battles. In response, you added a few sentences to the effect that "the NCIS took heavy losses during the ____", rather than giving any more details (or Heaven forbid a battle article of its own).
 * 4) *I noticed three new paragraphs about the culture.
 * 5) *Contrary to Brandon, I don't really see how the astrography section has improved. I say get rid of that section altogether because a list of every planet a major galactic power has can only be either way too small or way too large. Major planets should be listed instead along with the basic territory (such as "the Outer Rim from Ison to the Bajic Sector, or whatever). I've also looked up most of those planets mentioned in the astrography section, and I noticed that the reason they were put in there is not because they form a territory. Rather, the only reason that the NCIS has a presence there is because virtually all of them were previously affiliated with the original Confederacy. They're a bunch of isolated planets scattered across the galaxy. Essentially, you had somebody else put in a few random sentences for each planet on how it was taken (or lost, in a few cases). I don't know about Brandon, but you don't receive a Get Out of Battle Articles-free card from me, that's for sure.
 * 6) *I would like to see Troyb do one war between the Confederacy and some other faction, never mind enough wars for 10 millennia. The battles are just a couple sentences thrown into the list of planets in the manner of a red herring.
 * 7) *Lack of believability. As of now, there's no way that a splinter faction of the CIS (the entire leadership of which was dead) could possibly gather enough of an army or fleet to become a major galactic power before the Empire squashes them like a bug.
 * 8) *Troyb, how is the fact that you acknowledge something as unrealistic/clichéd/whatever supposed to convince us to ignore that fact?
 * 9) *You turned your work over to 8311 and then proceeded to basically sit on your hands while you waited for him to do it for you. Ironically enough, he added barely more than you did.
 * 10) *I've more than said my share of criticism for resurrected CIS factions, force-wielding droids, impossible victories, and so on. If Troyb was at least professional about this and actually invested the time required to fix articles such as this I might actually overlook some of the aforementioned nonsense (such as the entire concept of a new CIS). Even after you tried to make 8311 your stooge, you hardly added anything worthwhile since the last time this was nominated. The story of the New Confederacy does not go in any direction; it just spreads outward toward nowhere like a bunch of maple syrup spilled onto a kitchen table. The only war article that has any relations to the New CIS (to my knowledge) has not been touched in at least a year. It also has no characters involved save for Darth Tyler himself and Troyb. There are no additional characters on either sides, and the battles don't go in any direction toward any goal. There are no objectives, campaigns, or anything of that sort. For all of the above reasons, I cannot and will not support or fail to stand against the promotion of this material until there are some big changes. -MPK 22:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

 * Per Brandon. I'll properly log in and sign under oppose later; right now I won't, because I'll never log in while at college due to the fact that anyone can access this computer and I rather not risk my information getting out. But as Brandon said, this article needs lots of work. Lots of work; if you can't do it, Troyb, because "lack of time" or you "feel horrible", then just don't nominate it until you're actually ready to seriously take this criticism and work on the article. --Squishy Vic discussion archives 19:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * For the record, MPK, I never really said that the astrography section was all that improved. I just said my complaints about it were somewhat fixed, aka. not even mostly, and that I still did not approve of the way the Astrography section was set up. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]]  (Pressroom)  (Accomplishments)  22:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand that. My point was that I'm even less satisfied with it than you are. -MPK 22:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Nominated. Been working hard on this one, and I feel that it's possibly the most comprehensive article of its type here. I've also made sure that nobody takes the reception section seriously. Unit 8311 20:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)