Forum:Official friend of Wookieepedia

I only just remembered, but awhile ago I put SWF up for nomination as a friend of Wookieepedia. And I was curious, do the users here actually want to be Wookieepedia's "friend"? And if yes, would the users here that are also users over at Wookieepedia please vote as such.

Many thanks. Sith Council Sith Campaign 18:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Is Star Wars Fanon really anything official? --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication

Well I came here to escape Wookieepedia, it is so strict and stressing there. I only go there for major events or voting. It would be nice but some users aren't a fan of them. Darth tader Mandalore clan 22:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I also came to escape Wookiepedia. I wanted a place to let my imagination run free. Wookiepedia won't let you do that.( Darth Taikin  (Talk to me) (My work) 01:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC))
 * Well, that's not the point of Wookieepedia. Wookieepedia is for documenting things in the Star Wars universe that are canon. I'd like the idea of linking ourselves a bit more from them, and our acknowledgment of each other. I just don't know if a site as unofficial as us can consider having an official relationship with someone else. I mean, come on, most people who see this site probably dismiss it as a bunch of nerdy thirteen-year-olds who invest their egos and vanity into Star Wars. (I know that's not the case, Jasca, but it is what many think) --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 02:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

True, but I still don't exactly want to be wookiepedia's friend. ( Darth Taikin  (Talk to me) (My work) 01:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC))

Neither would I. Most of the Wookieepedia sysops dismiss SWFanon as nonsense and mainly as a place to redirect fanon creators on Wookieepedia to. Most experienced Wookieepedia users either haven't heard of SWFanon or they haven't bothered to look at it. Besides, WhiteBoy (the founder of Wookieepedia), doesn't want SWFanon as an official friend, so we might as well stop the vote now. Lord Orenc ( Comlink )( Conquests ) 19:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * WhiteBoy may be the founder of Wookieepedia, but he has no more veto power there than I. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 20:19, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * As the other cofounder of Wookieepedia and now an user of your facility, I don't see a problem with adding you guys as official friends however as another Wikia wiki to ours, you're more of a sister wiki to Wookieepedia, as well as the SW Merchandise Wiki. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Scince when do people vote to be friends to each other? I mean, yu don't go up to someone and say would you like to be an official friend of mine? and then having a big vote if you are friends or not. Friends are people who are nice to you and have fun together. Gyasz Kudeb 14:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think you quite understand how it works on the internet, do you? [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 10:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Well how about we vote for it, becuase there are some users here who object, some users want to, and we know it would be okay with Riffsyphon1024 said it would be okay. If we should settle this now there are three ways, Yes, No, or Vote. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  15:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ...Not cowering on a piece of shit SW Fanon wiki...  This my friends, is my reason for voting no.
 * I was thinking about this last night, and it figures I was just kinda ticked off at Redemption's comment, not Wookieepedia. Though generally some Wookieepedians act like that, many don't. So I'll change my vote back to neutral. -- [[Image:JM76Sig.gif]] Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg]]
 * Where did you find that quote? [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 09:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * He found it here User_talk:Jack Nebulax.
 * Thanks. Ive just left a note on Redemption's Wookieepedia talk page. Feel free to read it. [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 09:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Well after reading all of this I say no, and nothing will change that. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  10:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

No. Definitely no. ''' (Talk to me) (My work)(Become a Jedi) 11:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit torn on this. And for the record, the recent personal attack made by Redemption that was directed at me (and possibly Troyb) will not be a deciding factor for me. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 11:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * He called SWF a piece of shit, i'm not too impressed with Wookieepeida atm. [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 13:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Redemption is hardly a fair representative of all Wookieepedia. Look how many Wookieepedia users contribute here. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I vote no,wookieepedia is filled with people who call SW fanon a splintering wiki and user's such as redemption called me a SOB so I believe no is the anwser to this question's.I know their are people there who support us but they should also stand up for us.Troyb 20:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As C3PO said, Redemption is not a representative of Wookieepedia. Comments made by him are not comments made by Wookieepedia. In addition, making personal attacks a reason for you to oppose us becoming an official friend of Wookieepedia shows that some of you are immature (nothing personal, but having been told the same thing numerous times, I felt I had to apply it here). Personal opinions should not be the deciding factor in your vote. Despite my deciding to no longer contribute to Wookieepedia, I support this wiki to become an official friend of Wookieepedia. I will repeat this: Do not make personal opinions the deciding factor. Wookieepedia is a great site filled with information on something we all like&mdash;Star Wars. That right there should be your deciding factor. Without Wookieepedia, there probably wouldn't be a Star Wars Fanon Wiki. To make a bridge to real-world history, take this example: Without Great Britain, the United States of America would not exist. The U.S. is independent from Britain, just as we are independent from Wookieepedia, but without Britain, America wouldn't exist. The same goes for us. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I still vote no.I'm not saying wookieeepedia is not a great site but I think we do not have a point being friend's.And like I said lot's of people have called this wiki a splitering wiki.Troyb 20:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I'm loyal to Great britain. Troyb 20:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you feel that Wookieepedia does not respect the differences between themselves and Star Wars Fanon, perhaps friendship can mend this unnecessary resentment. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 20:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with 3PO. I don't see why we shouldn't be friends, we both benefit from one another. Wookieepedia redirects those darn fanon writers out of their way, to us, and we grow.


 * Good point but I think wookieepedia should apologize for calling us names. Troyb 20:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have heard rumors that they get rid of fanin writing users. Also they disrespect users with bad grammar, did you listen to 4dot about me when I said to him don't mention my bad grammar. I just don't think we should involve ourslevs more with them until they apologize. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  20:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Even though I am not in the discussion, I just want to say I voted oppose. Please don't ask me why because it is my business.--Darth Tyler(talk)[[Image:Darth Tyler.JPG|30px]] 20:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Perfectly acceptable. Darth tader Mandalore clan  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 20:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * So I guess the answer for us three is no,until they apologize we should not have anything to do with them. Troyb 20:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Making such generalizations about the site itself is like saying America isn't great because of George Bush. And don't get me started on how many times I have to remind people in real life about the latter. The users who slandered Star Wars Fanon should apologize, not the site as a whole. There are some great users who contribute there, and we shouldn't have to burden them by saying that everyone on Wookieepedia is responsible for the unfair characterization some of their number give to typical fanon users or Star Wars Fanon itself. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 20:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * A men. Darth tader Mandalore clan  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 20:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree,as long as those who slander SW fanon apologize I'm O.K. being friend's. Troyb 20:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Here here!
 * Amazing... -- [[Image:JM76Sig.gif]] Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg]]
 * Tbh, I doubt that those certain users that said something will apologize but do not punish all of Wookieepedia for this. We have good users that come here and contribute, recently myself. Why should a few bad apples spoil the entire crop? -- Riffsyphon1024 05:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I think if they don't apologize e shouldn't be friends, as long as they apologize in any shape or form, aslong as they apologize I'm fine with saying yes. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  10:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Riffsyphon1024, a few bad apple shouldn't spoil the crop. But thena gain, a few bad apples, when placed in the same box spread. I'm not going to change my vote because most users, with a few notbale exceptions, are actually good, nice people. And as Riff said, some users won't apologise because they're never going to see most of us in person, so they'll feel no need. [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 13:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

After a lot of thought on this issue, I have decided that we should agree to become an official friend of Wookieepedia. Although there are indiviudal users like Redemption who say they don't like us and would seemingly do anything to keep us from joining up, we cannot use them as a crutch for something that could advance our site. Those people are a minority with a lot of people over at Wookieepedia who have either written fanon or thought about doing so. We cannot let a few bad eggs spoil the omlette. I vote we support becoming an official friend of Wookieepedia asap.
 * I agree with NKSCF, although i'm now being called a piece of shit too, I do not believe that all of Wookieepedia is like Redemption and Fourdot. And we should not scorn them for the actions of a few. I would hate too se the famous quote "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few" apply to Wookieepedia. [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 16:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I have changed my vote to yes. Troyb 17:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Proposed amendment to the vote. Become an Official Friend of Wookieepedia (except Redemption). [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 19:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Redemption is my main problem, heres a few conflicts with him on the KOTOR wiki, and here,  If it wasn't for me it would of gotten way to much out of control. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  19:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Number 1 is not with redemption by wookieepedia. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  19:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes,if not for redemption we would get along better with wookieepedia.Redemption should be banned(He has 3 time's) for good. Troyb 19:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * At least redemption is to much of a horrible person to come here,it's so nice here without him here to curse. Troyb 19:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

He probably wont be, he uploads most of the pictures on Wookieepedia and is an important asset to their project.

No need to fling insults Toryb.


 * Sorry,I'm just saying it so nice that redemption's not here. Troyb 19:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Well my only concern is wat if he comes here if we become official friends, we have a few wookieepedia images, but once an image is uploaded anyone can use it. But I just hope he doesn't come here and insult us. Wikis are collaborative encyclopedia's, not Mine, not yours, my image, my article thing. We are under GFDL circumstances. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  19:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes I also have concern's of redemption coming here and abuse us. Troyb 19:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well not to be rude, but he doesn't abuse things he is I believe over protective of things he made, then I still hope he doesn't come, not to be rude, Bye. Darth tader Mandalore clan  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 20:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If Redemption comes around here and starts saying the kind of things he's been saying, he gets blocked. It's as simple as that. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 20:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Then why has he not been blocked at wookieepedia for what he has done?For ex:Cursing at user's,being over protective,ect. Troyb 20:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I am disgusted at the goings on here. Who the hell do you people think you are? You see fit to return in kind a slander launched against you in return for blantant, under-the-counter cross-analysation of a user from Wookieepedia, who, whilst harsh perhaps in his viewpoints and execution, is one of the most valuable contributers, a status which has even caused some of you children to ask him for help, from time to time. What gives you the right? I'm curious to know. Whinge all you want about how Wookieepedia mistreated you, and did something that hurt your widdle feelings, but grow up, maybe ahead of your obvious ages, and avoid these gross personal transgressions, misdirections, and vivisections. The reason some of us have voted against you is due to the fact that you are the exact opposite of us, and we don't touch fanon with a barge-pole. Ever. Because we document "real" Star Wars stuff, not random stories of ultra-powerful Sith Lords with catchphrases like "I certainly think it's time to BRING IT ON!" Please. Why sully our image. There's no need, there's no benefit, we send our users who have no idea what an encyclopedia is to you, and you add numbers to your livestock, and your unlimited potential for unlimited articles. Now, I find, on here, myself attacked by some guy who got the idea that I was out to get him, wheras in truth, I wouldn't take the effort to pass water over his grave. And at any rate, the actions of one user never, ever represented the viewpoints of a whole organisation. Only a child would think that. Oh...wait... .  .  .  .  22:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Guys, don't pay attention to Redemption. As a Wookieepedian, I dislike him. He is very rude, and you shouldn't put stock in his comments. Few Wookieepedians are like that. Unfortunately, those few give us a bad name. And he's up for WOTM...strange. As for being an offical friend, no offense, but I voted against it. See my Wookieepedia talk page for the reason. Sorry for Wookieepedians being rude, but like Fourdot just said, many tend to look down on the Fanon Wiki, viewing it a disorganized website full of fabricated information. Still, don't think all of us are like that (not even close). But for now, let's not let this turn into a war. Chack Jadson 22:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you talking to me Thefourdotelipsis,if you are I'm not attacking wookieepedia and I'm not attacking redemption what I mean to say is that he has flaw's,and should not curse.Also I do not care how much he has done for wookieepedia,it does not give him the right to curse at people and you for starter's should calm down.Oh,And Jadson I agree with you. Troyb 23:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "And at any rate, the actions of one user never, ever represented the viewpoints of a whole organisation. Only a child would think that."

- Thefourdotopolis


 * I wish such viewpoints were limited to children. But some very grown up guys in my neighborhood seriously think that the whole world is lousy and rotten and the first thing they say when I ask why is "George W. Bush." Can you vent some of your ranting on them, Fourdot?
 * Anyway, I think Star Wars Fanon and Wookieepedia are not quite opposites. Creativity and documentation are not opposites. Everything else, from being obsessive in Star Wars and operating as a wiki, is pretty much the same. In the big picture. But to protest the "we don't brush on fanon. EVER," nonsense, here's a couple of articles in Wookieepedia that do indeed document fanon. You even have a template that says so. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 00:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Why the hell shouldn't he curse? He's allowed to curse whenever he damn well feels like it. .  .  .  .  23:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Star Wars Fanon:Civility and Star Wars Fanon:PG-rule are examples of how we discourage the usage of such terminology. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 00:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes we do discourage cursing because we do have a Younger Audience. But yes a few of us are older. But f this is turning into a large conflict lets leave it for now, becuase the last thng we want is a bigger argument. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  00:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Meh, this might turn ugly. In all respects, whether all Wookieepedians want us to become friends with them or not, do we have to have cross-site arguments? Even if we aren't official 'friends' (I use that word loosely), Wookieepedia still sends there fanon writers here, and we accept them, and as Four-dot and 3PO said, this helps us grow. So besides the fact that we both love Star Wars and are both Wikis (again, what 3PO said), we kind of depend on each other in a way. If Wookieepedia didn't send their vandals and their fanon-authors here, where would you send them? As for the swearing part, as Tader said, we do seem to have a more younger audience than our canon counterpart (apparently :|), and some users find it offensive, especially when directed at them. Anyway, as I said in the beginning of my post, can we just leave each other be and not start a huge, cross-Wiki flame war? Again, its not good to generalize, especially a good number of us aren't 13-year olds with dreams of grandeur. Just as not all Wookieepedians are not all opposed to SWF. -- [[Image:JM76Sig.gif]] Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg]] 02:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with JM76, So lets leave the official friends thing for another day. Darth tader Mandalore clan MPTG  03:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. When users like Fourdot, who think they're God begin to get ivolved, it just shows that it's Wookieepedia's users (ie Redemption and Fourdot) that are being childish, and trying to pass the blame. I just find it so wonderous that users are so blatently rude to one another, when it's over the Internet. I bet half these people wouldn't have the guts to say it to the users face. [[Image:DarthAb.gif|Jasca Ducato]] Sith Council Sith Campaign 09:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't know if this has been said, but I'll say it anyway. I really don't see any difference between the two factions. (Wookiee & Fanon), I mean, all "Canon" started from the ideas of fans like us.  Anyway, who's to say what "is" Canon?  It's all a fictional universe anyway.  I mean, seriously... CurrentBigThing 10:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll also dip my fly in the ointment again and say that non-canon is not fanon. Since it's Lucasfilm approved, thought out, and not just concoted out of the blue. .  .  .  .  10:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you're directing your comment at me, but I'd like to counter by asking if you believe what you're saying. Are you saying that articles on here are just randomized? There are great articles on here. CurrentBigThing 11:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, let's bring this back on-topic, people. This is a discussion on whether or not we want to become an official friend of Wookieepedia. Time for an organized vote, I think. Please vote whether you support or oppose this wiki becoming an official friend of Wookieepedia. In addition, I ask only users who have actually contributed to this site to vote. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 11:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't care what Redemption or 4dot say, I will not let their stupidity influence my decision. Wookieepedia is a wonderful website and without it, I would sometimes be lost in my articles, as most of the info I need is from there. Again, do not let imbeciles like 4dot and Redemption get in the way of becoming an official friend to Wookieepedia.
 * 3) Its a great site to go to. I usually try to make my Articles fit in the cannon universe even thugh it isnt in it. Its a bit strict but its Star Wars! for the Force's sake! (Don't Look Here!)(Where is the Rebel Base?) 17:58, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I do not wish to become an official friend of Wookieepedia. I just don't. Nothing against Wookieepedia, but I just don't want SWF to become an official friend.
 * Could you elaborate on why? If there's no reason, I really don't think you should be voting. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I also wish for SWFanon to remain freelance. CurrentBigThing 13:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * FYI, Wookieepedia wouldn't control us. Becoming an official friend of it doesn't mean we suddenly are under their control. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Same here.Troyb 14:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "I have changed my vote to yes."&mdash;Troyb at 17:48 on April 12, 2007 (UTC). Which is it, Troyb? Or are you just going to change your vote every so often? &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Me too.--Darth Tyler(talk)[[Image:Darth Tyler.JPG|30px]] 17:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't want to be a friend that I don't like, and I speak for a few. Darth tader Mandalore clan  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 19:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh, you don't want to be a friend you don't like? You know, that doesn't make any sense at all. &mdash;Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) (Record of Imperial Service) [[Image:Imperial Emblem.png|20px]] 19:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't want to be wookieepedia's friend so I say no. I meant if we become official friends I won't like it because I don't want to become a friend of someone I don't like. Darth tader Mandalore clan  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 19:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)