Forum:Project Cruentus/11



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Mkay. Going on from Arav's last comment (see Archive #10), I decided to go through the battles and tally up how many battles each faction has to its name. So, with 1 battle each, we have: Inga's Boys, Hsia Militia, Team Nozixza, and the Lost Ones. With two battles, Savi Alliance. With 6, the Zayre. The Death's Tongue Militia have 9, the Srav Federation, 11; and the Necasian Military have a grand total of 13. Now, as Arav mentioned, the Vacoren Alliance have no battles, so shall we go through a list of candidates? Ok, so who else agrees that the Srav, Necs and DTM have quite a few battles? Does anyone else think they can be left out for a few battles or so?

If yes, that leaves us with the Zayre, Inga's Boys, Hsia Militia, Team Nozixza, the Lost Ones, and the Savi Alliance. At the moment, Inga's Boys, the Hsia Militia and Team Nozixza seem to be dead factions, so I guess they can be left out. That now leaves us with the Zayre, the Lost Ones and the Savi Alliance. Now the Zayre and the Lost Ones are what I would like to consider 'major factions', but they've been neglected somewhat. At the moment, the Lost Ones hold the closest object to a superweapon, so I would've thought they'd have a larger role; but then again, they've only been introduced recently. Still, they are going to be leaving the war soon, so more chances for them expand is good. Then on the other hand, we have the Zayre, who are going to play a similar role to the Lost Ones sooner or later - that is, possessors of the Hand of Darkness. So, again like the Lost Ones, they also need a bit of expansion; although, not as much. Then last, we have the Savi Alliance who seems to be making cameo appaearances, rather than a solid appearance.

Anyway, my best solution for the problem: make the battle between the Lost Ones, the Savi Alliance and the Vacoren Alliance. Therefore, the smaller factions are kept happy, if only for a while. And if the Lost Ones are added, then maybe this battle could also include how the Lost Ones get their battle droid army. Just my two cents. Darth mavoc 11:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the Lost Ones will soon be having a major battle quite soon, in which Ravyr dies; Inga's Boys etc were to have a few skirmishes at the start of the war, but we've kinda forgotten about that, and by now they'll be extinguished. However, I don't see why we can't have a Vac-Zayre-LO battle; but it'll have to be in year three, as year two is drawing to a close, which the last battles planned out. The Savi can have a few more battles squeezed in somewhere, but I think they should remain a background figure for most of the war. And I think the LO gets their battle droid army in their upcoming big battle, although I think it ends up getting pwned. Oh, and I have an annoucement: I am going on holiday again, unfortuantely, but I WILL have internet access, albeit sporadically. EDIT:Arav, DTM culture done. Unit 8311 11:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Unit:Cool, Mavoc:Cool. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 22:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I have started a minor skirmish between the Zayre and Vacoren Alliance. Its just a start and it is free edit so dig in if you wan't to. Tom: Im not sure when you are comming back, but I know its soon. Please read the 10th archived discussion. It will make more sense and keep you up to date. I am just reminding you. . Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 06:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay everyone, as promised, I'm here. Arav, I like your effort, but I think that that battle kinda screws up the continuity a little bit. Let's leave it for year three, or perhaps squeeze it in somewhere else in year one. Meanwhile, I can start the next battle (the one with the Sravs and Necs being tricked into attacking a DTM decoy base), but I need a name for the planet. Choose out of these: Vada, Tahu, Izona, and Ahara. Unit 8311 16:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm back. I'm shattered. Won't do anything tonight. Probably not tomorrow either. Arav, I'm wondering why you started a battle using the Zayre, which I'll push as fanon stealing on your part if Archive 10, when I read it tomorrow, doesn't convince me otherwise. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 19:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought, seeing as Unit makes DTM battles, I could add in a battle for the Vacoren Alliance, seeing as they have no battles yet. I will put a delete template on the page. Very sorry, I should have notified you first. Oh and welcome back.. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 22:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, scratch that bit where I said Unit makes DTM battles. I have told him he can make them. I just wanted to get the Vac's into the battle. Note: I did not add Articles by Arav the Undersith so everybody can add to it. I was only starting it. Unit: I don't really like any of them but Tahu is the best. Very sorry Tom for offending you.  --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Didn't annoy me too much. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and for the logo? Hell no. Anything else that requires my attention? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Tom: Do you like the idea I posted on your talk page? Unit likes it. He is just not sure if Sravs and DTM partner up. (Its more like they leave each other alone and take on the Necs for like a bit in the battle). I would like the idea to be in year four and a 3-way colaband one of the major battles of year 4. Are you ok with that? Unit: If I am correct, you and Tom are making the "Tahu" battle? My DTM don't have a big part so I won't colab in the battle. If you need any information on the DTM, ask me. Tom (again) : What name for your battle do you wan't? I am just saying I like Tahu, but it is up to you guys. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 06:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

What battles are left for year 2? Names please. Also, Tom likes the battle idea of mine.--<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 10:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, I made year 3 for the Cruentusian War. 24,297 BBY --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 09:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm here again. Tom, glad to see you're back. Check out Kothlis's GA nom. Also, I am curious, why don't you like the alt logo I suggested? In any case, I will be showing some other ones soon. I'll use Tahu for the name of the next battle planet, which I'll make now. Arav, the battles, as far as I know, left for year two, are just this DTM one and the Lost Ones one, although we may squeeze a skirmish in between. Unit 8311 13:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm doing a lot of HP stuff, Kothlis included. And yes, Arav and I spoke about this on the IRC. The logo was ugly as it didn't suit the Project at all, and looked like something from some army film. So, shall we plan the Battle of Tahu? I'd like to write a lot of this, as I didn't write that much in the others. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 15:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. How about the Tahu picture for a logo, or something similar? It's got mean-looking soldiers with real-lifesh weapons and a nuclear blast looming in the background, and IMHO sums up the grittiness of the war. In any case, my plan for Tahu is thus: Sravs and Necs turn up on planet. Don't notice each other at first. They try and locate the DTM base from orbit, but it's camoflagued. So they assume it's in the planet's main city, where they head. DTM SAMs force the landing forces into certain areas. Anyway, now both sides notice each other, but they come under attack from the DTM-goaded civilians. The Necs use napalm and the Sravs nuke part of the city, and then drop a nuke into the nearby sea that causes a tidal wave which finally breaks the native's spirit. Anyway, both sides decide that the base must be in the desert, and commanders on both teams decide it's best to keep out of the other's way for now. In the desert, both get attacked by DTM missiles, booby traps, and suicide troops. They locate the 'base', which is just a bunch of fakey buildings. The DTM is using a stolen Nec anti-missile laser system to deflect any missiles, so the sides have to do it the hard way. They tear up the base and leave. The battle illustrates how brutal the sides are. Thoughts, opinion? Unit 8311 20:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice.--<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations guys! Battle of Cul-Huq (Cruentusian War) is a FA! Big thanks to Tom and Unit on their work. Project Cruentius has come so far. Thanks to everyone who participles. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 09:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To quote Mr. Burns: excellent. Anyway, a random thing while we wait for tom to say something: I have come up with a new, alternate set of theme tunes for the factions. The Necs:, , the Zayre , the DTM , , the Sravs , . Thoughts? Better than the last set? If so, shall we make these themes official? Unit 8311 17:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My computer's playing up at the moment, so I'll listen to the themes some other time. Meanwhile, shall we plan for Tahu? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 09:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The music does not really not matter to me but the first one for DTM is the best. I like it. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 09:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Tom, I posted my plan for Tahu above. Anyway, Arav, I wanted to ask you a question: could it be possible to change the VA's opponent in Fresia to the Savis? It's just that the Savi's have lost miserably so far, and I think this could even the balance. Of course, if you don't like that idea, that's fine. Unit 8311 18:03, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok then. But its your idea so could you change the Cruentusian War bit at the end to a different story. Because you must have ideas for the battle then I take. I'm sorry if I am demanding things but I bet that you have ideas. Thanks. <font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I don't really have any ideas. Maybe just changing around names will do the trick. Anyway, I have an idea. Some time ago, tom mentioned the idea of a Cruentus novel. So I say: why not go ahead with such a thing? The war is not over yet, not by a long shot, but we can update said novel as we go along. If any of you are interested, I can elaborate on ideas for said novel, or if you would prefer to start it when the war is over, that's fine. Also tom, would you like to get into Tahu (feel free to make adjustments to the plan I posted), or should I add some more? Unit 8311 11:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, that novel. I say wait to the end of the Cruentus War when all battles are done and we have largely added to our factions articles and our leader's articles. Also, are we going to start year 3 yet? I'm waiting for Tahu to be finished. Also, what is the battle when Ravar dies? --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:14, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I like the Tahu ideas. I think we should make that the final battle for year 2. Opinions? --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 07:52, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you mean the Lost Ones battle, then yes, let's end year 3 with that. In fact, should we make Tahu and that one FAs? Anyway, what do you think of my novel idea? And what do you think of the themes I posted? Unit 8311 11:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the idea, but I think we should wait until the war is over. And yes, we should aim for FA with the two battles. The themes, I don't overly care about. I'll start on Tahu now. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 14:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please don't add anything more to the Tahu battle until I say here that I'm finished with it. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 14:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All right. Just one thing on Tahu: my original idea was for the DTM to use false intelligence to trick the Sravs and Necs into arriving, but your version is okay too, so don't think I'm going 'ZOMG HOW DARE U DEVIATE FROM MI @WESOME PLAN'. For the novel, I'm cool for leaving it for later, but would it be okay to quickly plan basic stuff like structure now, just so we don't have to bother later? And as for the themes, just tell me whether you like or not and I can officialise them, and that'll be the end of that. Meanwhile, is it cool if I upload some pics for Tahu? Unit 8311 15:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit: Go for it. Unit and Tom: Can you guys finish Tahu so we can start year 3? Thanks. Novel: Well, we start off with before year 1. When the rakata ruleand have all the slaves. Then eborax come. The flee. The men, women and child slaves go to different planets. My DTM were made a year before the Cruentusian War so they get most of their troops slaves. (We are not basing it on one guys events of the war? I think we base it on all factions and their time in the Cruentusian War). Then your guys factions are created. The start is with the <font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions )''' 22:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We're not doing the novel until the end. Just plan it all at the end, as the last battle might have a repercussion upon the first which means we need to re-plan, so let's wait until the end. And, Unit, please do upload some images for Tahu. I'll do some more now. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 06:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, good news: my holiday is over, and I'll now be back to my normal editing routine. I'll upload Tahu images in a moment. And I've taken the liberty of officialisng the faction themes. EDIT: Here are the images I promised: A DTM militant patrolling the streets, Necasian soldiers rescuing wounded, the city in flames, The DTM firing its KRUD missiles, Srav fighters taking out DTM missile sites in the desert. Thoughts? Also, I had an idea to change Fresia from the battle that destroys the VA to merely heavily crippling it, as I don't think that the loss of a single skirmish could bring down such a thing, and so that it can have another chance to shine in year three. Unit 8311 10:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

PC has come so far! Tom and Unit, its all you, you guys are the best writers we have. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 05:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Unit: Personaly, I dont care about faction theme songs. Unit and Tom: Please HURRY UP and add to Tahu! If you guys say it is ok to start year 3, thanks. I really want to get cracking on year 3. Note to anyone who thinks they know: Is Tahu the last battle of year 2? Unit: Fresia is a go with me.You can add to it if you want to. Or I add to it and you get craking on Tahu? What do you think? --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 10:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Theme tunes don't bother me at all either. And the only images of those I liked were the city in flames, the missiles and maybe the Gulf War one; depends if I want it. I'll add to Tahu today. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 15:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I can upload some other ones at some point if they're really that bad, but I'll probably still add the ones above when I get round to the article, because I feel that this battle should have a Black Hawk Down, Operation Desert Storm feel, if you know what I mean. In any case, can I make some minor edits to Tahu before you start/after you're done, just infobox stuff? Oh, and I had a somewhat pointless abut fun idea: make 'trailer', so to speak, of the project, which will just be a montage of images and the occasional clip, and post it on Youtube, and also make a trailer for each of the major factions. I can't do it now because my computer's playing up, but what do you think? Unit 8311 13:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If full credit is given to the creators of each individual factions used and each faction leader has the ability to ask for the video to be removed at any time then yes, I'm interested. And I've done a bit on Tahu, and yes, Unit, minor edits are fine for the moment; I'm hoping to add a few more sections before I open it to you, Unit, to add the ending of the battle, and fine tune the other sections with Srav details. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 19:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit and Tom: Full support for all your ideas.--<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 06:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Tom, fine. My computer is having problems again, so I may need to ask you for images. Anyway, I did some minor edits to Tahu, such as infobox addition and error repairal (bogs on a desert planet?), but other than that, nice job, carry on. Unit 8311 15:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I did mean bog, as I never said it was a desert planet. Earth has deserts. The Earth isn't solely a desert planet. For that reason, I'd appreciate it if you discussed it with me in future, but I'll let it slide this time. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 17:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I think we settled that it was a desert planet, but quicksand has the same effect as a bog, so I think we'll agree that it doesn't really matter. In any case, it's not as if I performed a total stalinist rewrite of the whole article. Anywauy, another question: do you mind if I put the images in as you write it, or should we wait until it's done? EDIT: I've just realised we've neglected an important element: how Jarn looks like with his armour off. My suggestions: this this, this and this. Thoughts?Unit 8311 15:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * So, Tahu is doing ok. Ravar battle needs to be started. The one where the Lost Ones are "killed off". In the Lost ones battle, Ravar dies and Mavoc takes on the Republic faction. Is that going to be started yet? --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 02:26, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not in our original plan, but this gives me an idea. Tom, while you're beavering on Tahu, how about I start on the LO battle (which I already have a plan for)? So when you're finished with Tahu, you can add into the LO battle and I'll go into Tahu, and then we can nominate them at the same time, thus bagging us two GA/FAs at the same time. For the name of the LO battle planet, let's choose out of the old names I proposed for Tahu: Vada, Izona, and Ahara. Would you like me to post the plan I have? Unit 8311 16:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahara.--<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 23:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahara. And I wouldn't post ideas until I've finished my part of Tahu, which won't be long. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 07:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okays, I'm done for now on Tahu, and, Unit, I ask that, when you add content, you can add as much historical content as you like. I'll edit that minorly at the end. All I ask is that you leave the aftermath and BtS to me. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 07:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All right, I'll go into Tahu now, and I'll take the liberty of starting Ahara now. Here's my plan for it: the LO turn up on the planet, which is a desert, and destroy a Necasian spy outpost there. However, the Necasians manage to send an unecrypted SOS signal before being owned. As a result, an elite Necasian squad led by Jarn head to the planet, but as do some Hammer Division troops led by Vergulva. Meanwhile, the LO activates the droid army they were seeking on the planet. Arriving at roughly the same time, both Necasians and Sravs come under fire and reluctantly work together, with Jarn and Vergulva finding themselves fighting side-by-side. Eventually, Srav reinforcements called in by Verg turn up and pull them out. They trace the signal for the droids to a large Rataka temple where the LO is, and head there. In the meantime, however, a passing Zayre ship, with Redharn and Ironwings aboard, has also heard the signal. Ironwings dives straight into the temple and begins a duel with Ravyr, who is superpowered with the Hand of Darkness. After a while, though, the Sravs and Necasians turn up and distract Rav long enough for Iron to kill him. Ironwings grabs the HoD and makes off, and then Verg calls in a nuke strike which destroys the temple, and what’s left of the LO flee. The Necs and Sravs both leave, with Jarn and Verg’s relationship further developing. Thoughts? And any comment on the Jarn pics I suggested? Unit 8311 19:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added want I wanted to Tahu. Tom, you can have the honour of finihsing it off. Shall I start on Ahara now? Unit 8311 19:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought that Darth Mavoc was also going to be writing the LO battle. I bet he would like too. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 06:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, Mav isn't the most active person here, so I think it's better if me and tom do it, but if you're reading this Mav you can comment on and edit the article if you want. In any case, can I have some favourites from the Jarn faces? And I've just noticed that we've got a second GA! Nothing can stop us now! Unit 8311 14:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll take a look at your ideas for the Ahara battle, Unit, some time later, when I'm a little less busy. I'll also add Legacy sections and the like to Kothlis and Tahu, some time this week. Also, what do you guys think of this template? --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 17:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * To quote Borat: is very nice! Unit 8311 19:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Brandon's come up with some alternate colors. Please give your opinion on which one is to be used here. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 19:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)