Forum:Is it so hard these days?

I imagine we've all seen the permanent banning of Darth Vukure, and what it's called, yet we obviously can't ban his IP due to the fact he has a George Skywalker who makes legitimate edits, meaning he can make a new account whenever he wants. Now, I believe I've now noticed two sockpuppets of Vukure (Drewton got to one and I the other) and it's really not the fault of myself or Star Wars Fanon that we get such plagues. Before I banned this second sockpuppet, I obviously had to receive confirmation that it was Vukure again, and what's the way to do this? CheckUser, of course, something only Wikia staff and a few selected members have. Now, I'm regularly on the Internet Relay Chat and, in the Wikia IRC channel #wikia, I sought out Charitwo, a Wikia user I knew to have CheckUser, to ask for his assistance in the matter. Have a read.

to (Charitwo) May I have a CheckUser, please? from (Charitwo)	Who, where, and why? to (Charitwo)	On a guy called Darth Kaarlus. We have a dude on Star Wars Fanon who was infinitely banned, and he's been sockpuppeting on five accounts, I believe. He's Greek, and speaks poor English. Kaarlus does the same, and knows a lot about the original host (Darth Vukure) thay only Vukure would know. to (Charitwo)	So we'd like to know if this is another sock. from (Charitwo)	Give me contributions links please. to (Charitwo)	To who? This dude and the suspected original, or just to Kaarlus? from (Charitwo) Of the people you want checked. to (Charitwo)	http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Darth_Kaarlus to (Charitwo)	He's also asking for Vukure to be unbanned. So, could you? to (Charitwo) We can't ban this guy's IP because he has a brother who's also a member. from (Charitwo)	I don't think a check is required, it looks pretty obvious. Just ban the new account. to (Charitwo) We have to go through the motions. I'm obliged to have this sort of proof before banning him. to (Charitwo) So, could you, please? from (Charitwo)	You've requested checks before for this, and it's starting to become a trend. to (Charitwo) And? That's not my fault. That's the fault of all the socks we get. from (Charitwo)	If you really want one done, email community@wikia.com - though you might not hear anything til Monday. I recommend using your better judgement. to (Charitwo) Jesus Christ... All I want is a CheckUser to stop a sockpuppet... from (Charitwo)	I'm afraid an attitude won't help your cause. to (Charitwo)	Yes, I realize that. However, it's rather annoying being turned down when all I want to do is improve our Wiki and, by extension, Wikia, something I, wrongly, presumed you'd be interested in too. from (Charitwo)	Sorry, can't help you. to (Charitwo)	May I ask why? from (Charitwo) 1) because's it's an obvious sockpuppet 2) all these requests from swfanon are getting tiring 3) your attitude to (Charitwo)	1) Yes, but we have to go through the motions. 2) That's really not my fault. If we have sockpuppets, then we need to deal with them. If you feel we're getting too many, please assign CheckUser rights to our most active bureacrat. 3) Exasperation comes from being denied the simple right of having a CheckUser on a sockpuppet... from (Charitwo)	1) this is the biggest reason I'm saying no 2) Checkuser is only given to Wikia employees (legal thing) 3) there is no excuse for an attitude from (Charitwo)	I'm afraid this conversation is over.

Now, to me I feel this isn't reasonable behaviour. Charitwo has the tools to do this CheckUser, and he can do it as instantly as an admin here can delete a page, to my belief. Many thanks to Uberfuzzy for eventually helping me with this, and it was pretty obvious Kaarlus was Vukure, but we do need to go through the motions, so we don't get the wrong guy. Yes, I may have appeared rather annoyed when speaking to Charitwo, but I was, quite frankly, pissed off that we were being denied a CheckUser purely because we've asked for so many. Is that the fault of myself, our admins, or our Wiki? I don't believe so. I believe that this behaviour was rather unreasonable, and I felt it should be brought to the community's attention. And yes, these are the exact logs. -- (talk) (contributions) 17:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)