Star Wars Fanon:FanonProject/Project Cruentus

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Project Aims

 * 1) Our goal is to create a minimum of three Featured articles, showing the large amount of effort we would like to see put into the project.
 * 2) Create an extensive new and intriguing era.
 * 3) Build a good relationship between users.
 * 4) Most importantly, enjoy ourselves!

Please do join this project, for it will improve the wiki as a whole, and should be a lot of fun!

List of Participants

 * Darth tom
 * Unit 8311
 * Arav the Undersith
 * Trak Nar
 * Darth Nyne
 * Darth mavoc
 * Darth Storm
 * Jedi Vilxi
 * Mecenarylord-Semi-resigned for now. Plans to be back.
 * JediCommando
 * Ty294
 * Dsutcliffe

Factions and their leaders

 * Death's Tongue Militia-Arav the Undersith
 * Lost Ones-Darth mavoc
 * Necasian Military-Darth tom
 * Srav Federation-Unit 8311
 * Zayre-Darth tom
 * Savi Alliance
 * Simiyar Tech-Darth Nyne
 * United Coalition of Worlds-Darth Mavoc/Unit 8311
 * Taung Confederacy-Darth Storm
 * Menunadexu-Jedi Vilxi
 * Sinyan Imperium-Ty294

Articles
If you create an article for this project, please add to the article!

Timeline
24,299 BBY -Various skirmishes between minor factions
 * Battle of Lehon (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Hypori (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Dagobah (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Shattered Ridge (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Hypori (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Alaris Prime (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish over Yavin Prime (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Tandankin (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Hansa (Cruentusian War)
 * Invasion of Sinya (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Vanqor (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Bothawui (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish in Stahlon (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Simiyar (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Cul-Huq (Cruentusian War)

24,298 BBY
 * Battle of Raxus Prime (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid in Eisenval (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish at Maridun (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Alasad (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Selonia (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Sinya (Cruentusian War)
 * Mission to Kyros (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Kopalnia (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid on Concord Dawn (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Alstuna (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish in Ilatas (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Kothlis (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Ankarr (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid in Lesangel (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid in Gresevokrad (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Carrivar (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Tahu (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Karccev (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Fresia (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Ahara (Cruentusian War)

24,297 BBY
 * Mission to Oboza (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid in Benmossia (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Ankarr (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Xandore (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Slavabrya (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Lanma (Cruentusian War)
 * Mission to Yuilnokrad (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Toydaria (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Casilis (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Manvan (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Kasa (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Halowan (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Demos (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Hurcha (Cruentusian War)
 * Second Battle of Alaris Prime (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Palanhi (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Sevastopolitan (Cruentusian War)
 * Second Battle of Sevastopolitan (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Mu Nae (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Volgis (Cruentusian War)
 * Trap on Axra Prime (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Atzerri (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Equan (Cruentusian War)
 * Second Battle of Ankarr (Cruentusian War)

24,296 BBY
 * Battle of Iyuta (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Ord Vaxal (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Nodessa Binary (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish near Ankarr (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid on Simiyar (Cruentusian War)
 * Raid on Sviat (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Samaria (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Arca (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Crombach Station 1 (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Diado (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Abonshee (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish above Ankarr (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Tanaab (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Dxun (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish over Havez (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Myrkr (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Janna (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish in Yuilnokrad (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Guay (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Ithor (Cruentusian War)
 * Second Battle of Abonshee (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Abonshee II (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish on Huio (Cruentusian War)
 * Mission above Corellia (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Malastare (Cruentusian War)
 * Mission to Boz Pity (Cruentusian War)
 * Skirmish near Boz Pity (Cruentusian War)
 * Battle of Byss (Cruentusian War)

Discussion

 * ''To view past discussions, see Archive 1, Archive 2, Archive 3, Archive 4, Archive 5, Archive 6, Archive 7, Archive 8, Archive 9, Archive 10, Archive 11, Archive 12, Archive 13, Archive 14, Archive 15, Archive 16.

Further Discussion
The discussion was becomming to large. Welcome to the Project Ty. I have not been able to read all of what I missed but I did see you might need the DTM for a minor scale mini war of skirmishes. Could you just explain to me in short what what you need? --Arav (Ancient Grove ) (Lost Archives ) 12:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC) The joining the UCW may have to be changed since the Taungs leave the war before the UCW officially joins. Although it doesn't involve the 3 major factions so they could remain unknown at the time. Ty294 {Talk}  15:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC) (UTC)
 * Well actually we decided not to use the DTM and use the Taungs instead. I'll give you an outline of what we're doing: It starts with the planet Sinya being invaded by the Srav Federation. Eventually the Sinyan resistance is able to force the Sravs off their planet. The Sinyans then begin to build up their military and expand their territory. Later in the war the Sinyans are invaded by the Taung Confederacy and fight them for some time. Dispite putting up a strong resistance, they are slowly overwhelmed by the Taungs and join the UCW who provide help.
 * I could have the Taungs rebuild in the short period of time they are out of the war and get a new leader. Then they could reenter by invading Sinya, which would also let the Sinyans join the United Coalition of Worlds.
 * Sounds good. I'll have to finish the Sinyan/Srav conflict first though. I've got an idea for the next skirmish in the campaign. The Sinyans will attempt a raid on an industrial city, but their forces will be surrounded and trapped by Srav troops. Some will be able escape when another group in the outskirts coming and breakes the lines, however, it still ends in a defeat for the Sinyans. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  17:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm...I don't think we should have the Taungs re-enter. Perhaps we can just have the troops attacking the Sinyans being cut off and unaware of their defeat, with the UCW eventually turning up, or make it a small raider force that the Sinyans beat back by themselves despite taking heavy losses, with them deciding to join the UCW to rebuild their homes. Not bad idea, Ty. Got a name for said city? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, Kligston. Sorry, I suck at naming stuff LOL. What should the article be called? Since most battles are named accourding to planet, how should we go about naming this? Oh, also if you don't mind, maybe you could find some pictures of jeep-like vehicles for the Sinyans? Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  17:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm...'Stahlon' or 'Eisenval' are my alternates. We can just call in 'Skirmish in (city name)'--there have been precedents. As for light vehicles, here are some suggestions:,  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They've had a year to rebuild. Why not let the Taungs back in? They could consider conquering the Sinyan Imperium as a way to rebuild their empire and then give them the ability to get their revenge on the Sravs, but then they would be beaten by the UCW when the Sinyans ran to them for help.
 * Nah. When they're down, they should stay down. I feel the raider force idea would be most logical--the leader of the force might feel that if he can't defeat a planetary militia, his honor will be compromised. After all, if it's the full force of the Taungs, the Sinyans wouldn't really stand a chance in hell. Besides, there's not that much space between the nuking of Dxun and the end of the war, so the Taungs apparently rebuilding in an instant may not be too credible.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So I should make it like the Mandalorian raiding parties in Knights of the Old Republic I on Dantooine. Basically a force of pirates with local allies.
 * Well, perhaps they could be sent to scout out space by high command and seize any resources of value to aid intelligence and further war effort, before getting tangled up with the Sinyans. Like conquistadors, sorta. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe a Taung warlord who has ambitions to create his own empire in the Outer Rim or something??
 * Nah--maybe just a simple raider captain who gets too caught up with trying to defeat this one group--kinda like 'I can't go back like this or they'll laugh at me' thing. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah Ive also decided to do a kind of prelude novel about the Taungs before the Cruentusian War. I'm going to work on that before I finish the Cruentusian War novel on the Taungs.
 * Maybe it would be better to finish what you first start, but your choice.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Im probably going to rewrite a lot of it anyways. It doesn't seem to have much coherence to me.
 * Hmm, now it can't be to small a raiding party, cause the Sinyans will have much better weapons by that time. Anyway back to the Srav/Sinya conflict. I think 'Stahlon' would be the better of those two names you put out. And Unit, have you guys used the Warthog vehicle from Halo yet? Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  19:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it may be small for the Taungs, but still a big challenge for the Sinyans. And while I don't think the Warthog has been taken, the Mongoose has, and some variety is needed. ;) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I like the first vehicle shown better but can you get a pic that doesn't have words on it? I'm ready to start on the next skirmish, I'll just need to know the location in the timeline for it. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  20:12, 27 July 2009
 * I'd put it after the Battle of Selonia. As for image:  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually that seems a bit late. Do you think I could do it between the Battle of Bothawui and the Skirmish on Simiyar? Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  21:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok here's the articles, or at least the beginning of it. I'll expand it in a while. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  22:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC) EDIT:Here's the vehicle for that image.  Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  18:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it's against the rules to "double-post" here, but I think I'm ready to begin work on the next battle. I'm thinkin' this would be the one where the Sinyans drive out the Sravs. Oh, and if you also don't mind uploading those two other tanks pics it would be appreciated. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  17:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ask and ye shall recieve. And personally I think there could be one minor skirmish/mission in between, but I guess it's kinda up to you. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks dude! I also thought of an idea for another skirmish: Another (this time successful) raid on a major industrial supply area that will secure enough supplies for the Sinyas to mount their attack. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  19:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Industrial area? Mmm...for variety, perhaps simply they could retake a fuel refinery that the Sravs have either seized or constructed. Maybe the Sravs could end up fying the area, but they manage to get away with most of the crude there. Thoughts? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How bout a weapons/munitions dump? Or possibly a localation were the Sravs are holding captured Sinyan tanks and weapons? We could say it's in the outskirts of the city Eisenval. Also, where should I put this? I'm thinking right before or after the Battle of Raxus Prime. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  19:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Both, maybe--just a general supply dump. And maybe after Raxus, and make in the 'Raid in Eisenval' or whatever. BTW, for the Sinya heavy tank, I'd recommend giving it some downside to make it seem more appropiate for a small faction--like mentioning that it's low in numbers because of expense/difficulty in maintenance/whatever and therefore deployed sparingly, or something. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've got a start of the article up, I'll expand it later. Unit, do you think you could dig up an image for the Invasion of Sinya? Most likely a nuke detonating in a city. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  22:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Image selected and uploaded. Check the page. BTW, I changed the name of the Eisenval thing to Raid for variety. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  10:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That pic looks awesome! I'll get the Raid in Eisenval expanded at some point today. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  15:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I think we're ready to proceed with the main counter-offensive. I think for this article we should each contribute in writing, ya know kinda split the article. We can each create different targets for attacks and commanders leading them. We should try to make this one a quality article, what do ya say? I've also gotta couple questions about some of my character's future in the later parts of the war. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  23:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright. Combined with the successful raid, we can have the Sravs pull some of their troops to fight in more important battlefront, thereby giving them more incentive to attack. Targets can include weapons emplacements, hardware depots, etc. BTW, once they've won, I think we should restrict the Sinyan gains to just their system or the systems in the immediate vicinity. Also, if you're going to put in mentions of the skirmishes in the invasion article, they may be better in the aftermath, considering it's supposed to be the actual invasion and not the occupation. And go ahead with any questions. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  12:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh you mean the "further engagements" section? Actually that's indented to be other stuff happening on the first day as well, I guess I named the section poorly. And yes the Sinyan colonys were intended to be a few local planets. As for my characters, can my guy Joe Tylars be involved in some UCW battles later on it the war? He can like be the commander of the UCW tank corps since that was what he originally did. Also it seems he could fit in the Battle of Byss as the UCW tank commander, but that's up to you and Darth Tom. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  13:55, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Well, I suppose it's not unreasonable for him to be in other UCW battles, but considering we don't list every officer, engineer and toilet cleaner in battles I doubt he'd warrant mention in Byss, considering we already have someone in charge of the UCW armor side of that. Perhaps as just commander of a single tank group rather than full corps leader--that way we could squeeze mention in somewhere. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're calling my guy a toilet cleaner!? Lol. But ya, he's only a minor character in the grand scheme of things. I would like him to be a commander in a UCW battle though :). BTW, what should the the next battle be called? I think "Insurection on Sinyan" or "Uprising on Sinyan" might work. Or it could simply be called "Battle of Sinya". Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  20:23, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * We'll see. And I think just plain 'battle of Sinya' will do. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * One more thing I'd like to note, during the Taung invasion they will also attempt to invade the planet Sinya (after capturing most of it's colonys) so should it be listed as "First Battle of Sinya" or I could have it so the Taung battle is only a space battle an thus named "Battle above Sinya"? Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  20:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok forget the previous post, here's the start of the article. I just thought of something though, the Sinyans have no air power, so the uprising could easily be put down with nukes. I think here would be a good place for the "Flyboys" to enter. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  23:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You want the Flyboys to enter? Cool. I guess we could have them take out Srav orbital kill-sats just as the Sinyans go on the offensive and missile launchers on the ground, eliminating most of the nuclear problem, before generally keeping the skies clear. They could be paid with simple cash or precious resources, your decision. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sinya is more of an industrial planet, so the reward can be part cash part weapons (specially ordered?) and ammo. Oh also, should they be listed as a third faction in the battle, or under the forces of the Sinyans? Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  15:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It'd be more logical for them to in with the Sinyans. I'll change the infobox accordingly. EDIT:There. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I've begun some expansion but it's your turn now. The battle should be losely based on the D-Day landings in WW2. I'll try to make a picture for either this one or the Raid in Eisenval, then you can take the other. If you've got a good pic for one or the other let me know. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  22:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Image selected for the battle, and uploaded. Content has also been added. If you want more, just say so. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've added more. I think what we need now is a Srav counter-attack somewhere. Likely in a rural or suburban area lead by one of the few competent Srav officers stationed on Sinya. The attack can be broken up by either a Flyboys air-strike or just running out of steam as Sinyans conquer more area. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  16:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they can try and take a vital highway or something that is the only practical way to strike at the jugular, but as you say the Flyboys could negate that with some thermobaric bombs and cluster missiles. Should I write this particular part in, or would you prefer to do it? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You can do that section and following it I'll write on about the Sinyans entering Reshlund. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  18:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I finished the battle part of the article and started the aftermath, since the Flyboys and Sravs are yours I'll let you write the aftermath for them. Also we should add a behind the scenes section. Your better at wording stuff then me, I'm just a Noob ;). Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  21:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. And I don't feel we have enough to warrant a BTS. Now, would you like to start talking with Darth Storm? I can give you both ideas if you want. Also, do you have any ideas for Sinyan spaceborne forces? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya I'll start working with Darth Storm on the Taung invasion. I'm also gonna add one small battle between Sinyan forces and a planetary dictator during the Sinyan expansion to link the two storys. As for Sinyan space forces, I think it will mostly be made of armed merchant vessels with maybe a few small warships. Although I'd like one medium-large size warship as the fleet's flagship. Oh remember that "Sinyan war beast"? Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  22:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright. Don't forget to add a few mentions of the Sinyan's own 'government control' in there. Would you like me to suggest pictures for Sinyan ships, and do you need any info on typical ship armnament in this era? And what about the creature?  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya I would probably need at least the flagship. Oh I need to ask, what of the transport/landing craft is used by the more minor merc groups? I don't know much about the armaments of ships but I think it's flak turrets, missiles and heavy MGs. As for the "BEX", my plan is for the Sinyans to set a trap for the Taungs (after the initial invasion of Sinyan space) on some remote planet where they release the creature on the Taungs causing chaos and terror among their soldiers. It would be destroyed though at some point. BTW, when you gonna release more of the "Dogs of War" noval? I started reading it and couldn't stop. It's cool.  Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  23:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Transport ships for mercs? I don't think we've covered those--you could just use captured ones, or regular transport barges. Anyway, the central ship here looks good to me, or maybe this. For armnament, yeah, also mass drivers and ungodly amounts of missiles are usually used in starship battles. I suppose the Sinyan ships could be freighters that were hidden away during the invasion and pimped out with weapons and heavy armor, unless you have something else. And I'll release more in good time. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  23:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the second ship seems to big so I think the first one should be used. There is about a year-year1/2 between the Srav invasion and the Taung invasion so they could have had none at the time of Srav conflict but captured/built/bought the ships after the conflict. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  00:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * @Unit, Arav: I was wondering if I may make another battle between the UCW and the DTM that happens concurrently with the Second Battle of Abonshee?
 * @Ty: if you want, we can always descale the size of the ship to a few hundred meters in the infobox if you think it looks too big there, but it's your choice. Do you have any exact idea for an article? @Mavoc: I suppose so. What ideas do you have? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll have to think up a name for the ship, I'll link you to it when I make it. I've also made the "in-between" battle. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  00:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. If you need any suggestions for a name, just ask. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya I probably will.  Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  14:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for taking so long to reply, but as my userpage will suggest, RL is getting in the way. Anyway, ship name suggestions: Ranger-class, Nimbostratus-class, Rodger-class, Intortus-class, Velum-class. You can affix the ship type yourself. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I seem to remember that the Ranger-class is actually a canon ship (makes an appearence in Vector Prime). I'm not trying to dissuade you or anything from choosing one or the other, just pointing something out. --JediCommando (Talk) 17:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Stratus-class" sounds cool, I don't think its been used yet. Ty294 [[Image:Sinyan Imperium logo.png|20px]] {Talk}  19:32, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * @Jedi: Well, in a period of 20 millennia, it's probable that we may get ships with the same name. ;) @Ty: actually, now that I check, we've got the Strat-class cruiser, which may sound too similar. If you want to know my personal favorites, I like Rodger or Velum, but it's all down to you. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, I made a Srav officer for the Sinyan invasion/occupation for you. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll add him to the Battle of Sinya as well. Of those two ship names I think I like Velum best. Ty294  {Talk}  17:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Would you like me to upload the image you selected (remind me which one if you've changed your mind) when I'm able to, or should I find others? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the first pic has other ships of the same class in the background, and acourding to the article I made for it, only two are made, and the second picture has alot of Japanese writing on it. So if you can fix those problems with the pics its fine but you may have to find some other ones. Ty294  {Talk}  17:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I can easily crop those out, or we can just imagine that those are civilian freighters or something, and the writing on the other can also be easily erased. With that done, which one should I upload, or should I do both? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah go ahead and do the first one. Ty294  {Talk}  17:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There. Need anything else, let me know. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Say Unit, what do you think of this so far? Storm seems somewhat inactive but hopefully he'll get around to fixing the Battle of Mu Nae. Ty294  {Talk}  23:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks alright. And yes, Storm does tend to be pretty on-off in terms of activity. Do you have any idea for a specific date? Like, which battles this is supposed to be between/concurrent to? Also, do you think there could be a dedicated space skirmish between Taungs or Sinyans, or will space combat be left to the next battle? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I think Mu Nae should be concurrent/after the Second Battle of Sevastopolitan with Axra Prime being shortly after. I was then thinking of a larger battle on Karccev that would resemble the "Russian Front" of WW2. Basicly it would be a long battle lasting from some point at the end of year 3 untill the Taung withdrawal in year 4. As for space battles, I was thinking of having smaller skirmishes above Karccev concurrent with the ground battle, with each side trying to bring in reinforcements, these smaller skirmishes can all be rolled into a single article (Battle above Karccev). I also intend my character Dak Chamblers to die during the space battle. Ty294  {Talk}  18:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. Would you be content with me putting into that place in the timeline, or would you prefer to discuss with Storm first? Perhaps you could also have some space skirmish in the system asteroid belt or somewhere, but it's up to you. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:27, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you can go ahead and put Mu Nae after Sevastopolitan. Also, you can place Axra Prime in timeline just so its kept in year 3. Now, I have a couple ideas to run by you: 1st, for the Battle of Karccev I was thinking of having 3rd-party involvement. Possibly the DTM and/or DTM supported insurgents, or perhaps the Menunadexu as they seem to have been yet to be used in a battle, but I think the DTM-supported insurgents would be best. 2nd, for my guy Joe Tylars involvement with the UCW battles, I was thinking of a battle between the UCW and either the DTM of the Necs. I also kinda want him to be working with one of the more major characters. I thought it might be funny to have him sharing command with Nataska Vergulva, since she's a former Srav it would become kinda a in-battle. Otherwise he could share command of a battle with Redharn and Ironwings. Just tell me what you think. Ty294  {Talk}  16:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. See if you're happy with the battle placements. Not sure about 3rd party involvement, but if I had to choose it'd be DTM-sponsored insurgents. Possibly Sinyans attracted to DTM ideas or angry locals. We do have some battles that Joe Tyler could fit in with the UCW and Necs, but you may have to talk to Mav about that if you want a seperate one. He might be able to fight alongside Vergulva, but not sure about the other two. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The time placements are good. And I would be satisfied with just one new battle that Tylars would be involved in and I think sharing command with Vergulva would make for a fun and comical story-line. Edit: BTW, do you think you could add the fate of Strigoi Khaz to the Battle of Sinya? And also maybe add some quotes by Srav or Flyboy characters. Ty294  {Talk}  17:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fate and quotes added. I suppose we could put Tylars into a new conflict concurrent to the second battle of Abonshee or the battle of Malastare, on the moon of either of the planets. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Great! That makes the article look complete. I think the Second Battle of Abonshee would be the one I'd choose, since they'd be fighting the DTM (and locals?) rather then the Necs. Ty294  {Talk}  18:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Any idea for a precise scenario there, or should I make one? Also, I think there's a couple of Sinya-related articles that could do with being written, like the Balestone one. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya, I really should have made Balestone a long time ago since he's such an important figure to the Sinyans. I'll get that done today. As for the Battle, my idea would be that perhaps the DTM have a military base with missile silos that could bombard the planet and Tylars and Vergulva have been sent to take it out. Also, some locals (primitive ones) should be involved to make it a longer battle. Ty294  {Talk}  18:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's actually similar to what I was thinking, except that the DTM could fiddle around with local ore mines to construct rudimentary mass drivers that fire ore payloads at orbiting vessels. Perhaps the locals could be a subspecies of the reptilian, maybe deliberately infected with eborax by the DTM to serve as walking disease bombs, with Vergulva taking these out with sniper fire while Tylars is responsible for covering her. Thoughts? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, except Tylars is a tank commander so he would be providing armored support and possibly spearhead the assault in certain areas. Ty294  {Talk}  18:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That's sorta what I meant. She could be sitting in a tank providing fire while he has his other vehicles in a covering formation, or something. Perhaps there could be several taskforces, although he is forced to spread his authority after DTM snipers take out other tank commanders. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, Tylars could perhaps be like a "wingman" of sorts. Just one thing, can Tylars use a personalized SAAV-6 for the battle rather then the standard UCW tanks? Ty294  {Talk}  19:12, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose so, though perhaps standarized and tricked-out with UCW high-tech equipment. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm thinking stuff like an bigger engine to improve the vehicle's normally slow speed as well as a missile launcher for anti-air defense. BTW, can I add Balestone to list people who signed the Treaty of Corellia? Ty294 {Talk}  19:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure and sure. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. My last question would be: Do you think the Trap on Axra Prime needs any further improvement? Ty294  {Talk}  19:35, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks okay to me. Up to you if anything needs added. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So anyway, would you like me to start the battle or to do it yourself, or would you like more planning beforehand? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:57, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You can go ahead and put up the shell of the article. Ty294  {Talk}  20:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Here. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, we need to think of some quotes/dialogues between Tylars and Vergulva. You can also write most of the prelude (I'll add the joining of the Sinyan Imperium to UCW when your done.) Ty294  {Talk}  01:07, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Started a prelude. As for quotes, I can lay down one in the first section and you 'reply', so to speak, and then you start one for the next, and so on. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  13:01, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yah that's what I was thinking. BTW, what is the original extent of Tylars authority at the beggining of the battle? Ty294  {Talk}  13:09, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Leader of a tank squad/column, I'd guess. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  13:42, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it could be a bit like Stahlon where Tylars starts out coing after a secondary target but has to increase his roll in the main battle due to "problems". Ty294  {Talk}  13:48, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. By the way, do you think an article will be needed on the moon's natives? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:59, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm, I'll let you be the judge of that. I personally don't think it's needed but you can decide. Ty294  {Talk}  15:45, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll decide later. Anyway, do you want to start adding to the article? Also, do you think I should find an image for it? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:02, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can get the main image, I'll see if I can dig up any additional ones. Ty294  {Talk}  16:30, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Added main image. I take it Tylars will meet Vergulva in the next battle section? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:50, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya. Ty294  {Talk}  21:24, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, there's a couple of planet articles you could do, more specifically Axra Prime and Nu Mae, although that last one may be left up to Storm. Are they to be in the same solar system, incidentally? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:08, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Karccev is the closest to Sinya while Axra Prime is a bit more remote. Mu Nae I think I'll leave up to Storm but I'd assume it would be the closest to Taung space. Ty294  {Talk}  18:59, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but what I meant was do they orbit the same sun? Remember, a solar system can still be a big place, even if it's nothing to a galaxy. ;) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:08, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I think Karccev can be in the same system as Sinya, while Axra Prime and Mu Nae can be together in another seperate system. Ty294  {Talk}  22:31, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. You may want to create the article about the system(s). BTW, who's turn is it to add to the Abonshee thing now? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:13, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Its your turn for Abonshee. Also I think we should expand the Invasion of Sinya as it looks kind wimpy compared to other articles. I was thinking of adding a section about Traditore and the SSR loyalists joining up with the Sravs against the Imperium. Ty294  {Talk}  20:00, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that sounds good. Expanded, btw. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:10, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've expanded most of the Invasion of Sinya article, I still have to do the aftermath though. I've got a quote in there that I'd like you to add onto. (I think you'll know which one it is.) Ty294  {Talk}  21:40, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice work. Quote added onto.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:46, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oo I like the reply. Also I think you can add quotes to the "Prelude" and "Destruction of Reshlund" sections as well as start one in the Abonshee article.  Ty294  {Talk}  22:26, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:41, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * The article looks good now. I'll get to the abonshee one in a little while. Edit: Is that quote supposed to be replied to? Cause I'm not sure who Vergulva is talking about, the DTM of the UCW forces at the base? Ty294 {Talk}  22:46, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * She's talking about the UCW. And you can reply if you want. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  23:10, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Filled in that quote, although I altered one of the lower lines, unless those missiles were actually supposed to be called CRAP missiles, which would say a lot abotu the narcotics access of its designer.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:20, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya, actually that was intended for the person to have confused "KRUD" missiles with "CRAP". Edit:BTW Unit, can I make a recommendation for the picture of Strigio Khaz? Ty294  {Talk}  17:33, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice idea. However, that also brought to mind this image: . Which do you prefer? Don't worry if you feel that that image is better, I can still have a few uses for your one. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:03, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * It don't know, it's your choice since Khaz is your character. Whichever one you think fits his character better. Ty294  {Talk}  18:10, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll go with my one, but I'll still find a use for that other one, thanks for suggesting it. BTW, seeing as I'm taking it's my turn for Abonshee, should I continue the last section or start a new one, with a quote for you to add to? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:28, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want to expand my section you can, but you can go ahead with a new one. And ya you can have the start of a quote. Ty294  {Talk}  18:52, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Section done, and quote started. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:05, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Finished quote. Probably just one more section of the battle I'd assume? Ty294  {Talk}  19:15, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose so, although maybe one on the cleanup, though that may go in the aftermath. As I think it's your turn, I think you can write how it goes. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:20, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, it will probably be a while before I get it up though. My brains kinda gone blank for ideas. O_o Ty294  {Talk}  19:27, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can give you some stuff if you want. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:40, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, as Storm seems to be a bit inactive, would you like to add a bit more to that front, in every sense, with a little space skirmish in an asteroid belt or something? Perhaps a Taung scout forcing paving the way to Karccev could be held by the Sinyans in the belt, who have inferior numbers but superior tactics. Thoughts? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, ya I'll see about some pre-landing space battles. There will also be some other space battles mixed in as well. I've started the section on Battle of Abonshee 2, but I'm kinda at a stand-still. You got any ideas for the finish of it or do you want to go ahead and do it yourself? Ty294  {Talk}  17:19, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I'll finish the battle myself, and you can start the aftermath, with what happens to Tylars. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:43, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. You can add to the quote. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:42, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * I just noticed there appears to be a timeline conflict with Skirmish on Ithor as it appears that Vergulva had joined just before that battle and that battle accours after the one we're working on. Ty294  {Talk}  19:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well spotted. Timeline changed. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:45, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've got at least a skeleton of an AFTERMATH section up. If you want it expanded you can go ahead. Ty294  {Talk}  20:55, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Nah, I think it's enough. We can make another one for Tylars if that's what you want, though. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:11, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * We could use some quotes on the upper sections of the article. The one on the top page could also be Vergulva's take on the battle. Ty294  {Talk}  21:23, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Top quote put in. Would you like one for the prelude? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:16, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw, I don't really have any idea what I would put there. Ty294  {Talk}  22:19, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, put one in. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:21, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, for now I think I'll work on expanding/fixing my existing articles. I just have a question for you: Do you think having Herich Stimmlur defect to the Necasians sounds like a good idea? Otherwise I might just have Tylars kill him at some point.  Ty294  {Talk}  22:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Possibly. You may want to ask tom, but as he's already given you permission for a defection before you can exploit that if you want. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:39, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually he had a while back when we were gonna have the Sinyans join the Necs, but I was still gonna ask him anyway. I just wanted you opinion. Ty294  {Talk}  22:43, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't see why not. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * One more thing Unit, then I'll leave you alone... For now... Which of these do you think would fit Yen Balestone better. or ?
 * I also have my suggestion --you may want to paste something over the badge. The source is from the new ST movie, if you decide to upload it. But if I had to choose from those two, and the second. And who said anything about leaving me alone--ask as much as you want, I'm all for it. :) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  23:08, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually yours fit Balestones character better. The other two were more sinister characters which Balestone is not. I still plan to use at least one of those other two images, maybe for a BSI agent. Ty294  {Talk}  23:21, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Great. BTW, in the battles/space skirmishes, will the Sinyans be using self-made air support, which you mentioned in the invasion article? Would you also like me to find any pictures of freighters they could convert into picket ships, if you think that's a good idea? BTW, I noticed you came up with a couple of new vehicles in your Sinyan Civil War thing. Need any suggestions for those? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:04, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * With the freighters you can go ahead, as for the tanks, I was hoping to find an old game to take pics from that but I seem to have lost it so I may need help if I can't find images. Ty294  {Talk}  19:45, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * , I can remove the labels,, I can find more if necessary. What sort of tank pics would you need, if you can't find what you're looking for?  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:51, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I like the first one the best. As for tanks, I was thinking of the the German Tiger tank or the American M-26 (or maybe it was 28?) Pershing as they resemble the tanks seen in pics in the Battle of Sinya. I was thinking of it being an older model heavy tank (actually it would be a medium tank compared to rivals) that would be used during the Civil war and a little bit during the Srav/Sinyan conflict. It would be retired by the time of the Taung conflict. Ty294  {Talk}  20:24, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I don't think an exact WW2 pic should be used, but I can suggest other things: You may want to erase the swastika, though. Alternately, you could simply reuse the Sinya battle image. Would you like any ideas/pics for a Sinyan fighter too?  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:33, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, maybe a real old-looking jet or a more modern looking propeller plane for the militia fighters, however, the SDF would use Firewings and captured Srav fighters in the later war. Ty294  {Talk}  20:42, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * ,, . Need any ideas/help for the warfreighter article? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:40, September 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * The third pic I like best. I can probably handle the freighter articles, onless you got some ideas you want to add? Ty294  {Talk}  13:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright. Shall I upload it, and the freighter pic? And no, I don't have anything to add, unless of course you'd like any help. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  13:53, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I've got the freighter up, but I'm gonna need some name suggestions for the fighter. Ty294  {Talk}  14:40, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Name suggestions: Valker, JAX-12, SFS-19, Thunderstorm, Corola, Cylone. I'll upload the freighter pic for you, if that's okay. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine, you know the source I don't.  Ty294  {Talk}  14:51, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Uploaded. Which name is your favorite, btw? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:58, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I chose "JAX-12". Funny thought, I had thought of J-13 and SF-(#), very similar to your JAX-12 and SFS-19, as possable names. Ty294  {Talk}  17:03, September 9, 2009 (UTC)