User talk:Unit 8311/Archive 1

Thank you! Let's continue the discussion of the mod here.--1upD 20:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. My talk page on Wookieepedia was getting clogged up anyway. Let's start from where we left off. Like I said, I'm designing a Steel Legion insignia, but I'm useless at photoshop, so it'll take me some time. First of all, I have a few questions. Will Legion space forces also be buildable from the Harbingers position? And would it be possible to make some unique units for the Legion? And one last, slightly irrelevant question: seeing as you've obviously been around longer on this site than I have, I'd like to ask you whether fanfic-type stories are allowed, or just wiki-type articles? Unit 8311 10:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Unit 8311. Yes, FanFic is allowed.  Just be sure to form it as a Fanon Book.
 * Nice insignia! I'll add it. UHoh...I was gonna say something else, but I gotta go...--1upD 20:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, I had some ideas for Legion-exclusive units. Shall I tell you what I have in mind? Unit 8311 12:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok... Keep in mind I can't edit the 3D model data. Even if I could, it's REALLY hard.--1upD 20:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. First up is what I'm thinking of calling the Legion Corrupter, or a Legion Elite--I haven't decided on a name (if you want, you can choose one). Don't worry, I'm not asking you to create an entirely new model for it--what I had in mind was basically a Defiler with blue or grey colours (I'm assuming you can change the colours). Now, would it be possible to give it Tyber Zann's bribery ability? Thanks. Unit 8311 06:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A blue defiler!? Oh my...I was planning on doing one anyways! LOL! They could be a bridge between 8311 and a totally different part of the CIS. I was planning on eventually adding Darth Valen, Nadenn, Eaoiss, the Taa-Fac droid collective, and of course Valen's defiler. Hmmm...How would this fit in story-wise? Would there be room story-wise for an alliance between the currently unamed defiler(and thus Juc Fac) and 8311? Then that defiler could train grey defiler minor heroes...That sounds really cool! What do you think? I can't give them the option of corrupting planets, but I can give them bribery. Do you want me to add the missle troopers? Then I can update the picture for you.--1upD 20:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not too sure about the bridge between the other stories, but yeah, I suppose it would be cool if the blue defiler would be the equalivent of a fleet commanderor or whatever and grey defilers were more regular ones. I suppose that all of them could have the bribery ability, but maybe the blue could have extra HP and attack. And yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could add the missile soldiers, thanks. Unit 8311 06:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. About the story bridge, it would seem strange if the grey defilers were unrelated to the blue, and if the blue trained the grey, why would they work for 8311? 8311 and Valen will fight on the same faction, regardless of their positions in their stories. It seems most convenient if there is some sort of story bridge. It would seem hard to implement, but really the alliance doesn't affect the Steel Legion's campaign. It does put the legion in a better position, making them stronger. Do you not like the story? (I can understand that, the flame order is a little strange) I was thinking maybe the Defiler hero should be black and the Defilers should be blue. And, you should reply to Troyb's post(though I personally think you shouldn't join him)--1upD 21:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I just noticed your page on Legion Infilitrators. I hadn't thought of giving them the ZC's steroid ability, I'll do that. Also, they are all currently Weequays in Forces of Corruption. Maybe this should be added to the page.(I think you got them mixed up with Humans, the pirate soldiers in FoC and EaW are cooler-than-normal Weequays) They seem even more elite on the page than I intended them to be...I should add a lot more HP and firepower too them. Also, (personal opinion) I'm not too sure about them being stronger than clones. But in my mod, the Rebellion will be able to send Anti-Imperial Troops against the Legion, so we'll find out.  It'll be really fun to see those black sun raids become reality in my mod.--1upD 23:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I suppose an alliance with this Valen person would contradict my bio in a small way, but then again I could find a way to cram it in somewhere, and failing that, we can always just set the mod in an alternate universe or something. Yeah, the story's looking not bad to me. As for the Defiler colour, yeah, the defiler hero should be black, and maybe the normal ones grey or dark blue. And as for the Legion Infiltrators, when you described them to me as 'elite' and 'having a ton of HP' I assumed that this made them SUP-A and so I reflected this in the page. And another thing: we need to think of a name for the Legion defilers. I was thinking of 'Legion Corrupter', giving their bribery ability, but that sounds too Tyber Zann-ish. Perhaps 'Legion Elite' or 'Legion Subjucator' would do. What do you think? And by the way, I replied to Troyb's post on his talk page, and he told me to talk to someone called Darthtyler. Unit 8311 12:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I was feeling that the Legion army was somewhat sparse in terms of vehicles, so I had an idea for a unit called the Legion Assault Speeder--basically a swamp speeder, but with darker colours and increased attack and HP. I was also wondering if it was possible to give the Assault Speeder the cloaking ability. Would this be doable? Thanks! Unit 8311 17:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How would it contradict it? UGH... I don't like the alternate dimension thingy... If there's no possible way to ally them in the story, we could just say "It's not cano"-I mean, "It's not fanon!" We could say he being allied with the Taa-Fac is non-continuity. LOL, I just found out that 80 HP isn't that much-though the other troops have a lot less. I boosted their HP to 200. Now they're "SUP-A".  Shouldn't we just call them "Legion Defilers"?  I can do Swamp Speeders. Swamp speeders with Legion Infilitrators inside. I can give them cloaking, but instead of them having those wierd lines on them, they'd have to just be completely invisible, because the Swamp Speeder model doesn't have an invisibility mesh. It's so wierd how you always want the things I can do. Everyone else wants things that are hard to do! --1upD 21:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh. I think simply 'Legion Defilers' is too obvious--let's use 'Legion Elite' for the time being. And by the way, will you be able to upload any new screens soon? Oh, and I think we discussed giving the Interceptor IV to the Legion space fleet, but with missiles. Did you do that? If not, I'd appreciate it if you could (as that's what it says on the Steel Legion page anyway). And by the way, do you think any of my pages have FA potential? Unit 8311 16:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, man! Whatev. I will, right after I make the cloaking speeder. I've already got the PLX troopers in, I haven't tested them though. I haven't done that yet...Space modding isn't my favorite thing, surprising. That's why I've been so lazy about Iron Harbinger and this new Intercepter frigate. I will make it soon, but I haven't finished coding the cloaking speeders yet.(Maybe I should have done that instead of playing Jedi Academy last night ) Featured article? I think the Unit 8311 article does, your fanfic did too...did...You won't like what you find on Wookiepedia. I was right.--1upD 16:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen what happened. (mutters angrily under breath) I forgot to move it. I'll try and contact that guy and reason with him. Anyway, it's not the end of the world. I can easily rewrite it. Unit 8311 16:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Lots of wookiepedians are crapheads. There are lots of got ones, but(particularly admins) have begun acting really strange, and have been deleting anything they don't like. It's so freakin' stupid! How can that moron Havac dare step foot here after what he did!?--1upD 16:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The good thing is that my block isn't permenant. That's one thing to be grateful for. Oh, and I had an idea for a Legion ground hero: this guy. Unit 8311 16:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of that. The only problem is, there are no Quarren models to reskin, and no mods add them. I could reskin...Well, I really can't reskin anything to make him. I could easily add him as a Tarkin-Mon Mothma type hero, but that would seem kind've lame. *ponders how to make a Quarren*--1upD 16:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that there were Quarrens as an indigenious thing on Mon Calamari. If there aren't, I can always come up with someone else to be a Legion ground hero. Unit 8311 16:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, only Mon Calamari were on Mon Calamari. Remember, the Steel Legion and other CIS Remnants will be one faction, so it's not like you can't mix remnant units with Steel Legion units. Though I could put Swqaru in a vehicle, like Veers and Garm.--1upD 17:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A vehicle...yeah, that's a good idea. Perhaps he could be in a super-powered Canderous tank or something. Unit 8311 19:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A Canderous would be doable(LOL, anything already in game or in a mod would be doable) But usually you don't see generals in small tanks. Would he be a good tank driver? Also, Havac can give you your fanfic back.--1upD 23:43, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm finishing up the Legion Assualt Speeder. For the Legion Elite, I think it would be so much better to just call them defilers. Legion Defilers vs. Consortium Defilers, Blue Defilers vs. Red Defilers. It would be sweet! And, for the alliance, 8311 wouldn't necassarily have to ally himself with Valen, just Juc Fac, a fellow CIS survivor. I always pictured his troops being backed up by pirate troops. Then Valen's defiler could train the Legion Defilers.--1upD 16:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose that if you could, say, enlarge Ferd's Canderous--or change the colours, if that's not doable--and give it the firepower and HP of an AT-AT or Veers, then it'd be appropiate for him. And although I've only just started the Ferd Swqaru page, I'm planning to make him more of a brute force person, which means he'd most likely be in a tank. As for changing it from Legion Elite to Legion Defiler, I think it's somewhat unoriginal, but what the hell. And could you by the way increase the strength of the Legion Elite/Defilers, as they're supposed to be the best Legion soldiers, even better than the Infiltrators. And will this Jun Fac be a playable person in the game? Unit 8311 12:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And I'm thinking of nominating the Steel Legion page for FA. Do you think it's good enough? Unit 8311 12:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's doable. If he's a brute force person, wouldn't fight outside the thank? I know it's unoriginal, but the point of that is to make the Legion Defilers 'mirror' the Consortium defiler. It'll look a lot sweeter to see them fight each other if you know that they're essential the same thing on different sides. That would work. Of course! Yeah, originally I had Dellso planned to be the main hero, but he dies quickly and will only fit in the earlier Galactic Conquests. Maybe I should put 8311 as a SBD in the earliest GC. Or at least as HK-47. To get around an annoying bug I'd have to put that Twi'lek in Iron Harbinger...Or at least I'd have to put someone else in Iron Harbinger. For some reason I can only get units buildable at a ship's(or Ship hero's) position, not a land+space hero. Go for it, you're articles are great. If I get more modded screens it would look a lot better. This wiki recycles pictures way too much.--1upD 20:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay! I've nominated the Steel Legion article. Vote for it, will ya? And I suppose you could perhaps put Ferd in the Harbinger it you can't do 8311. And by the way, will you be able to post any new screens soon? Oh yes, and I had another idea: would it be possible for the smuggler to be a Legion unit, and would it be possible to increase the number of credits the Legion smuggler brings in? After all, the Legion is supposed to be a criminal organisation, so this would reflect that...Unit 8311 07:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok! I can do 8311 IT-0 in the Harbinger, 8311 SBD/HK-47 I can't. If I put Ferd in it, he won't be able to go on land...whatev. Screens? I will next time I test. A glitch kicked me out of the game last time...stupid autoresolve... Smugglers! The ZC should have them too... Great! Yeah, I can do that.--1upD 21:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Would it be possible to increase the amount of money brought in by the Legion smuggler to something like 800-1000 credits? And, seeing as I think we've been focusing a bit too much on the Legion army, I had an idea: give the Legion the V-wing, darken it, and give it extra attack and HP to make it sort of a Legion interceptor--equalivent of the A-wing or TIE Defender. I was also thinking whether you could give it the cloaking ability. And would it be doable to give Ferd's super-canderous the Millennium Falcons invulnerability ability? Thanks! Unit 8311 12:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Tie defenders are really strong and A-wings are really weak... I don't think so, since that's a space ability.--1upD 21:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * All right. Maybe you could give the Iron Harbinger the invulnerability ability? Unit 8311 06:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I probably can. Like I said, I don't do much space modding.--1upD 19:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. By the way, why don't you like space modding? Is it difficult? Oh, and out of curiousity, who designed those CIS Remnant units I saw in the screenshots? And I was thinking that maybe we should have the merc assault squad as the standard Legion infantry, but I was also starting to think that maybe the Legion has enough units now. What do you think? Unit 8311 10:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And are you experiancing the login/session data problem as well? Unit 8311 12:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Not exactly. Once I start editing it, it's fairly easy. Though coding in totally new capital ships can be annoying. Lots of people. The models are mainly from Keeper of Faith and Codeuser, most of the code is from me, though lots is from Z3R0X. These people aren't on my team, but they gave me permission to use the stuff from their mods. Remember, the Steel Legion is a sub-faction. They don't need an entire unit list-just some nice elite units. They are only a part of a larger faction, the confederate remnant. That's why it would make so much sense to have an alliance in the story.--1upD 20:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. It'd be nice for the Legion to have a larger unit list, but then it'd virtually be a seperate side, I guess. And by the way, will the CIS remnant and the Legion be buildable in skirmish? Unit 8311 11:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The CIS remnant is playable in skirmish. I was thinking about the Steel Legion in skirmish...How about their units be buildable from a base buildable at a outpost buildpad and from the pirate docks?--1upD 15:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a possibility...maybe the Iron Harbinger could be buildable in skirmish and the Legion units buildable from that. However, if that can't be done, I suppose the docks would have to do. And by the way, could you increase the HP and attack of non-Legion exclusive Legion space units (i.e. Z-95s, pirate fighters, Venators, etc) so that they're not just a collection of pirate units? Or have you already done that? Unit 8311 16:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Currently CIS space skirmish is VERY glitchy. I will fix that. Yes, that would be good. Should Iron Harbinger be buildable from the CIS space station, or from the pirate docks? The non-legion pirate space units currently can't even be built from the docks for the CIS. That's how glitchy CIS space is.--1upD 19:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. I think the Harbinger should be built from the space station on Tech levels 2 or 3 or something. And there's also the problem of how Legion ground units should be buildable. Unit 8311 20:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I took some nice screens, but I don't have time to upload them all. Here's one:
 * Very good . BTW, I just cropped off the annoying borders and re-uploaded it. Hope you don't mind. Could you also crop the borders for the other images? Thanks. Unit 8311 07:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mind at all. I'll upload the other images in a few minutes, do whatever you want with them.--1upD 20:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Here

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 * Very good! I'll definitely find a use for all those images. Thank you very much for uploading them. Maybe you could upload some space ones? And by the way, did you change the Iron Harbingers stats to make it stronger than a normal Keldabe? If not, could you make it about the same strength as Thrawn's Admonitor? Unit 8311 07:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And by the way, the picture of the Legion Defiler--the one labelled 'A Legion Defiler'--isn't coming up on any of my browsers. Unit 8311 14:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Ok. Currently Iron Harbinger is just normal.--1upD 21:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The Legion Defiler really looks cool up close, by the way. It looks even better than the Consortium Defiler. You really did a very good job on that. Did the 'ok' there mean that you're going to beef up the Harbinger? And could you make the Keldabe battleship a buildable Legion unit, if you haven't done so already? And if you've already done so, could you also increase the power/health of the Legion keldabes (but not make them as strong as the Harbinger, of course)? After all, if the Legion is supposed to be 'some nice elite units', it'd be good to make most of their units powerful and tough. Unit 8311 10:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. I'm sorry, I never noticed the reply. LOL, actually the darker look was a side affect of adding an alpha channel to the Defiler skin... I should redo it's hardpoints. Make the mass drivers massive, the turbolasers super powerful, etc. I haven't done that. I assumed the Harbinger would be the only Legion Keldabe.--1upD 20:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks. It'd be good if you could make Keldabes buildable for the Legion. I'd appreciate it. And by the way, did you add in the Legion smuggler? And have you added an individual text help to all the Legion unique units (assault speeder and defiler)?Unit 8311 07:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Yes, but they can't steal credits yet...I don't know what's wrong. Yep.--1upD 21:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Great. BTW, could you upload some more screens, please? Maybe some gameplay screens. Thanks. 12:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I could make the smugglers gain credits like buildings...It would be much more effective. Ok. By 'gameplay', do you mean Galactic View? Or just non-cinematic pics? I thought you would prefer the Camera pics for your fanon.--1upD 13:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * By 'gameplay' I mean both Galactic View and non-cinematic pics. I would also appreciate some camera pics for the fanon, but I would like to see how the actual gameplay would look like out of curiosity. And as for the smuggler, how much credits would you make him produce? I would like, say, roughly the same amount of credits a Consortium palace produces. Unit 8311 14:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. I can put them up at the forums too, that place has been a ghost town! Ok. I think the Legion is a little overpowered...But not unbalanced enough to ruin a mod. Now, z3r0x's Hailfire droids are overpowered to an annoying level... Anyways, I'd think I'd like to make a 'criminal galaxy GC', where the entire galaxy is controlled by crime factions. (I'd only take some of the planets off of your list for the Steel Legion, though, since some are needed by other factions.) Depending on which faction you play as, you would play at their main base planet and try to conquer the underworld. Of course, when playing as the ZC, all but one of their planets would go to other factions, and when playing as the CIS, the same would go for the Steel Legion. I was wondering if you prefered it that way, or if you wanted me to make the Steel Legion a non-playable pirate force (Only in that GC) What do you think?--1upD 17:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Would this make the Steel Legion an entire seperate side? If so, that'd be great! Unit 8311 17:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you really hate my fanon that much? Yes, it would, but they would be unplayable. The entire reason I made them part of the remnant faction was so that they could be playable. Also, I was wondering about an in-universe continuity meeting of Juc Fac and UN-8311, and a possible alliance. UN-8311 could have been a major enemy of Gourbuh the hutt, also.(I will add Gourbuh to FoC, and I did put in the little mention of the Death Watch in there for a reason)--1upD 18:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm...okay, make them an unplayable seperate side, but just to get it straight: will the CIS be playable in this 'criminal galaxy' GC or just crime organisations? As for the meeting between 8311 and Juc Fac, I don't see why not, but I'm not sure I'll put it into my fanon (but I might change my mind). But I don't mind a connection with Gourbuh, which I might well mention in my fanon. And what made you say I hate your fanon so much? Unit 8311 19:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and could you please nominate a few of my articles for the Second Wiki Awards? Unit 8311 19:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * *SIGH* O-k... (One of the reasons I decided to add UN-8311 to my mod was for more heroes for the CIS. Of course, now I'm more into it.) Of course, all factions would be playable. Wait...for the non-playable thing, did you mean just for the crime GC, or for everywhere? Ok...If it's not in your fanon, did it really exist in continuity? The player has the option of making it happen in the game, of course, but I was talking about your fanon. Ok. (Gourbuh will interact with Juc, I had planned out his character assuming the Steel Legion would be allied with Juc, but now it may be a little different...) I was just kidding. Ok...Not sure which to nominate, though.--1upD 20:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * For the non-playable thing I meant the crime GC. And what do you mean by 'did it really exist in continuity'? If you mean my fanon continuity, I would say not for the time being, but I can always add it in. As for the nominations, you could nominate 8311 for the best Separatist character. Unit 8311 10:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OHHH... *PHEW* I thought you were talking about the entire mod. Ok, but remember, I'm persistant. Ok...But the best of his career was actually after the clone wars. I think I'll nominate him for best droid, if that's an award.--1upD 14:34, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, there is no droid category. Oh well, looks like Separatist character will have to do--that one's got only one nomination in it anyway. And perhaps you could nominate Deras for best Imperial character. And BTW, have you done Swqaru's Canderous and the cloaking V-wings yet? Unit 8311 07:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Eh. Oh... I need to work on this. I've kind've taken a break from modding for a while. I really need to get back to it.--1upD 13:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I took a bunch of screenshots. I'll upload the gameplay ones on the forums, and the cine ones here, but later. I also added the missle frigate. I gave it Soulcealer's harmonic missiles... They're WAY too powerful. One Interceptor IV took out a whole Hutt fleet! Maybe I should instead give them to the Iron Harbinger, and decrease the rate of fire.(That was the main problem) I've found something scary:The CIS has reached it's unit type limit. I can only add heroes and none buildables from now on. I've figured out other ways to get factions units, though.--1upD 15:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...perhaps you could keep the power of the Inteceptor's missiles, but decrease their rate of fire, and give the original ones to the Harbinger. I suppose making the Legion ships ultra-powerful would compensate for there being few of them to build. Oh, and out of curiousity, does the CIS side have its own buildings and build pad buildings? Unit 8311 17:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh...That's a little overpowered. I'd prefer to change it to slightly advanced concussion missiles. Ok. Though variety is cool, lack of variety doesn't necassarily affect balance like that. Of course! I think I should give the CIS a "mercenary barracks" that builds standard Weequay troops, but then is required to build Steel Legion units, along with UN-8311 in orbit. I should work on Ferd and those SARC V-wings(Is it ok if I use that as a backstory?)--1upD 19:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I finally created an article for the black-armored Defiler, Scelestus Proditor‎.(I sure hope no one here speaks latin...Dang, that dictionary really helps make alien-sounding names!) Currently, he works for Darth Valen.(He only thinks he's a sith) How would Scelestus move on to train the Legion defilers?--1upD 15:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I triple-posted, but how about I replace the Assualt Speeder squad, Infilitrator squad, and PLX squad with one squad that includes a squad of infilitrators, an assualt speeder, and a squad of PLXs?--1upD 17:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you have in mind for the V-wing backstory? As for Scelestus, I don't see a problem with that, but would he be more like a hero or a field commander? And are you trying to make a squad of Legion units because of that CIS reaching it's unit limit thing you mentioned? If so, I don't mind. Should we call it the 'Legion Assault Contingent' or something, and how much would it cost? And as for the mercenary barracks thing, would it build Legion units only when Harbinger is in orbit or would it simply require Harbinger to be in orbit once, if you know what I mean. Unit 8311 12:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That they were stolen Dark Fett SARC Squad V-wings...I was planning on adding those, too. They're black V-wings, and though I hadn't thought of them having cloaking devices, the clone pilots had personal stealth fields, why wouldn't the V-wings? Ok. He's a major hero. I'm thinking about changing the legion defilers to work for Scelestus, if you don't mind. If this alliance worked out it would be a lot easier. Or maybe he would just also be able to build them. Yes, in fact, after I added Ferd, the CIS could no longer build anything. It TOTALLY creeped me out. I turned all the 'infilitrator' units into one unit, and then I could build again. Yes, we need to watch that limit. It would build mercs regularly(Maybe Trandos, if I'm in an RC mood) and Steel Legion units when 8311 is in orbit. But adding new units wouldn't help the limit...hmmmm...--1upD 15:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that backstory seems fine to me--although perhaps the Legion duplicated them instead of/after stealing them. I'm not too keen on having the Legion Defilers work for Scelestus, though. Perhaps he could become leader of the Legion's Defiler Corps or something like that, then I would accept it. And have you added the Keldabe as a buildable Legion unit (if the unit limit gets in the way, perhaps you could do something similar like the Legion Assault Contingent for the fleets)? If so, then I think that'll be enough for Legion space units. And how powerful did you make Ferd, by the way? Unit 8311 15:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. That's sort of what I meant. It could be the connection that sealed the alliance. No, but I will. (By the way, the Harbinger's seismic missiles PWN) Sure, in fact, the fighters aren't buildable right now, but they come with the other ships. Not too powerful. I tried attacking Black Sun as the CIS remnant. Xizor kept bribing my units away...So I brought in Ferd. Do to a glitch, Xizor bribed the co-pilot of Ferd's tank, who apparently had more power than Ferd, and turned the tank away, kidnapping him. Instead of dying, Ferd survived...Sort of. I saw his icon in the upper right corner of the GC view, but when I clicked on it, it just zoomed me into Black Sun headquarters. He somehow became part of the map, and disappeared completely...--1upD 17:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I see (by the way, if Ferd is 'not too powerful', could you perhaps beef him up to equal or exceeding Veers?). Is Black Sun playable, or is it just a non-playable pirate-esque force? And who would you say is the better side: the Legion, or Black Sun? And have you considered changing the soundbites of Ferd's tank to, say, some of Ackbar's soundbites (as it's safe to assume that Quarrens sound like Mon Cals)? Unit 8311 21:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 0_0 In that case, I have a lot of work to do on Ferd. Veers' maximum firepower could take out Sqwaru's tank in one hit! Of course not, lol. They're just like they are in the first game. Same goes for the Hutt Cartel.  In EaW, Legion, all the way(Though it's a close fight; believe me, I've seen it. ) Outside, I'm not sure. Black Sun has formed so many alliances, it's impossible to attack(Except for by some pirate groups such as the legion) Meaning it's military would be out of practice. However, Black Sun has headquarters on Coruscant, meaning it has access to the entire galaxy, while the Steel Legion is relatively small in comparison. Yet the Legion has a great military.(Too great, I think) Ok... But I doubt his voice would sound like Ackbar's. The beak would make a strange noise, and all those tentacles would get in the way. BTW, I'm thinking about modding RC. I doubt I'd be able to do much, especially for the legion, but I'm just letting you know. RC modding looks hard, but I think I'm up to the challenge. Reskinning seems especially stressful, as I'd have to ovverite existing skins.  Unless hexing would work on RC...It worked for EaW.--1upD 00:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. Hmm...perhaps you could distort the soundbites...or if not, then perhaps we could just leave Ferd with standard Canderous soundbites. Modding for RC? That sounds good, but it'll probably be difficult...and by the way, could we have those screens you said you had? And I'm planning on putting Gourbuh the hutt into my fanon--what do you say? Unit 8311 07:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt I could encode the .WAVs right with my recorder...Worth a shot, though. If it works, I can record my voice and put it in the game for other stuff...Not sure why I'd want to, though, as my voice sounds terrible for acting. Yeah, it will. I'm up to the challenge, but I know I won't be as succesful there as I am in EaW. Skinning looks like it'll be a pain, because some numbskull forgot to include custom skin compatibility for MP. I'll probably end up as just a mapper. But my anti-grav map idea will be so awesome! Ok. Sure. I haven't really decided on Gourbuh's army yet, it'll be mostly the standard Hutt Weequays, Twi'leks, Pod Walkers, Skiffs, and such, but he dealed with the Death Watch a lot. Two assasins who work for him who I have not yet named wear the different varients of Crusader armor. I think eventually he will equip his standard troops with a modified version of that armor. BTW, right now I'm designing him and my characters in 1 ABY.--1upD 14:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Record your own voice? That's actually not such a bad idea...perhaps we could use some HK-47 samples for 8311. Good luck on your RC modding, by the way. Those screens are great! Thanks for uploading them! Is that seismic superweapon thing from Harbinger or something? Unit 8311 15:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I just added a bit about Gourboh to the 'enemies and rivals' section of the Legion page. Feel free to add it to your fanon or change it if you don't like it. Unit 8311 15:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the way you call Gourbuh 'Gourboh'. I planned out this big duel between Scelestus and another defiler working for Gourbuh who I have not yet named, but it again assumed the Legion and Flame Order were allied. Anyways, basicly, I had in mind that Gourbuh would use his defiler to sabotauge Legion crime efforts on Nar Shaddaa and replace them with his own corruption. Here's the idea for the battle: [This is the part we will presumably cut out] Nadenn and Eaoiss(Who were looking for allies) tried to gain favor from UN-8311 by removing Gourbuh's corruption from Nar Shaddaa.(Nadenn couldn't help but be disgusted by the brutality of the Legion's crime, but he still agreed.) They tracked down this new defiler, and called in Scelestus. [This might work out with your fanon, though I'm not sure how Scelestus would be able to be employed by both Valen and 8311] They'd start this huge vibroblade duel, jump from speeder to speeder, switch speeders, blah blah blah.(We can coreograph it later) and Scelestus would be victorious. In the process of killing his old friend, though, he both enraged Gourbuh and caused the two assasins to get a promotion. Because Gourbuh would blame the legion, that could start an entire gang war. What do you think? (BTW, Ferd sounds great with Ackbar sounds, you were right. I beefed up his tank so that he has the same ammount of health as an AT-AT)--1upD 19:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a bad story, not bad...just to get this straight, will this Big Duel of Doom® be between Scelestus and Gourbuh's Defiler? And will Gourbuh have just one Defiler, or a big army of them? (if it's an army, it'd prefer it if he only had just that defiler, as the game will start getting overcrowded with Defilers of various factions ) These two assassins are Nadenn and Eaoiss, right? And I think I might actually put this war between Gourbuh and the Legion into the fanon, though of course the Legion will have to win. . And I suppose you could have Scelestus put into the Legion as a spy, or as a double agent. You beefed up Ferd? Good--and did you give him normal Ackbar phrases, or distorted ones? Oh, and BTW, I noticed green Venators in those screens. Who do those belong to? And back to the story, I suppose 8311 could accept Nadenn and Eaoiss as allies (though he wouldn't be too concerned for their safety, as he's the kind of droid that doesn't often make friends with meatbags . One last thing: will this story be part of the mod? Unit 8311 18:57, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. Only one defiler(Possibly more later) I haven't named him yet. Wouldn't it be kinda cool to have tons of various-colored Defilers? No, not Nadenn and Eaoiss, Gourbuh hates the Flame Order. Of course the Legion would win. Just save the deaths Gourbuh and his two Mando aids/thugs/assasins/sweet dudes for me. Scelestus does seem like the type who would easily betray Valen, though if the alliance works out he wouldn't have to be a 'double agent'. Ferd has normal sounds, but it's fine. The green Venators belong to the Hutt Cartel. If you noticed, one of the screens says "Nal Hutta changed from Hutt Cartel to Empire". Heh, whether 8311 concerns for them or not doesn't matter. I plan on ending the flame order with a battle of double-crosses so bad, it would shock the writer of At World's End(Have you seen PotC3?). Yes, to some extent. If anything directly showing the story, it'll be more like the BF1 campaign then the BF2 campaign. A quest message pops up, it tell you where to go, you get sweet rewards. I can't do scripting, can't do dialogue(So far) can't do much with AI, can't do sweet battle 'puzzles', can't do much anything relating to campaigns.--1upD 00:09, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, it'd be kinda silly for every criminal organisation in the SW underworld to have Defilers of varying colours--Tyber Zann would probably sue for copyright violation. Yes, I have seen POTC 3--it was okay, but a bit too long. So how will the story ultimately end out? (BTW, I don't mind if your characters interact with my ones a lot in the story, so as long as they don't kill 8311 or something ) And will there be certain planets you have to take in the game to forward the story, or is it just a case of 'conquer everything that doesn't belong to you'? Oh yes, and are the invisible V-wings done yet, and does 8311 have his own soundbites or standard Keldabe ones? Unit 8311 12:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah. Do you get what I mean, then? I'm not quite sure...I know the Flame Order will die. I've been planning on a mirror to the FoC 'cliff hanger'. Nadenn is going to find this Jedi holocron with a starmap in it. Every FoC player knows where this is going... I have this urge to include the Dark Fetts but I used to focus too much on them. Of course. I haven't done much with story, but I planned on working on the Dark Fett story first, however, I'm getting RC next week and I think RC will be a much better place to show off the Dark Fetts(a game about clones) and FoC will be a good place to show off the Order/Remnant/Legion(A game about corruption). No...I should work on those. He has standard Keldabe, but I'll replace those with z3r0x's Battle Droid sounds.--1upD 14:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, I get what you mean. A Jedi holocron with a starmap? Well, we all know where you got that from... While you're working on the V-wings, could you please increase their HP and attack to make them the 'elite' fighters of the Legion? Perhaps in the story 8311 or the Legion could try and get their hands on the Holocron, just to make it interesting...Unit 8311 16:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Was carbonite even around in the Sith War era? Oh well, FoC already said yes. Ok, they will also appear as SARC troopers starfighters. Hehe, that gives me a good idea. What if the player had the Legion's support througout the campaign, then lost it when they finally came to the planet the starmaps lead too(Korriban is too generich, I'll have to think of a different planet) the Legion would betray him and be the enemies you have to fight in the final battle for the 'Sword of Justice'(an artifact that is supposedly where the starmaps are leading) Whoa...This is starting to get cool. I'll work on the fanon up until the point Nadenn gets the holocron, but I'll exclude 8311 until we can agree on excactly how the alliance was formed.--1upD 17:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea...though of course the Legion wouldn't be totally destroyed in the battle, just some of its forces. And have you decided what the 'Sword of Justice' is? I think it should be a superweapon of some kind, or a device that allows one total control over the Force, or something like that. Or perhaps it could be a vast treasure instead of an artifact, then the Legion would have more motive to betray the player. Hey, you're right, this story is starting to get interesting. And how are you going to have Nadenn find the holocron? Will he stumble across it, or obtain it from someone? Oh, and perhaps Thule would do as the location--it's a Sithish planet as well. As for the alliance...remind me who the alliance is supposed to be between again and I'll come up with something. Unit 8311 18:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course. I have. Those are good ideas...but I already know what it is. Have you ever played Metroid Prime:Hunters? I don't have a DS, but my friend spoiled the ending, and I have to credit it in part as inspiration for the whole idea of the 'Sword of Justice'. If you check out the article, I got a little bit more done, but stopped right before this interesting part. He thinks he's strong enough to break into the Imperial palace and assasinate Palpatine.(He doesn't know Palpatine's identity) On the way, he stops at his old Force Trooper barracks and pays his old alpha a visit. (He sneaks through the ventilation system, breaks into his office, and locks the door) In that office, he finds the holocron that tell him about the sword of justice. He figures it would be easier to wait and get this sword of justice before killing the Emperor, and leaves via some undercover rebels. *phew* I better add that to the article. I believe Thule was where Silri found her power...The rocks look bluish in the cine, unlike Korribans tanish sandstone. I don't know who exactly will start it, but the legion will be pulled into a tangle of alliances between the Taafac and Flame Order.(Which will eventually disolve into a tangle of hostilities) I think Scelestus and Valen would be good ones to start it up. --1upD 14:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've played Metroid Hunters, but I gave up after playing through eight-ninths of it. Nice story. Perhaps Silri found the frozen army on Thule--though if it's ever revealed what planet it is, I think it'll probably be a Generic Evil Planet rather than anything already existing. As for the alliances, I have an idea: perhaps Valen and Scelestus are looking for a means to gain more power, and decide to make a deal with the Legion. 8311 decides that this might be profitable in some way, and agrees. Meanwhile, the Flame Order fears that perhaps Valen will get the Legion to destroy them or something, and tries to make an alliance with the Legion as well. And perhaps Scelestus would secretly defect to the Legion or something. You can elaborate on it if you want. Unit 8311 14:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh...It's the ending I was talking about. (The final battle) Maybe it was sort of like Rakata Prime, unknown except for in the starmap. That sounds good. It could be profitable because Valen is a near-palpatine level force adept. Um.... Valen is part of the Flame Order. He used to be, then he was captured and pretended to submit the Empire, then broke out of his prison(Along with an army of captured members) and restarted it. I really need to update these articles.--1upD 16:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, I got a bit mixed up with Valen and the Flame Order. But if Valen is part of the Flame Order, then it makes it simpler: Valen and Flame Order ally with the Legion, job done. BTW, will Valen survive the whole thing? Heh, this story has potential to be epic... Unit 8311 20:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, lol. No...But I haven't really planned his death. I know he'll die after Eaoiss(Who I plan to have smited by the 'Sword of Justice') Maybe Valen will be killed by Nadenn. Maybe Nadenn will stay loyal to Valen and Valen will be killed by Zhssohkss. Maybe Nadenn will have 'order 66 of the flame order' and kill both Valen and Zhssohkss. Maybe Zhssohkss will kill... Anyways, before I decide on who-kills-who, I better get all my Flame Order articles to the part of the story where Nadenn gets the artifact. It may take a while, though. Now I'm pretty much dying to see this story in EaW, yet I want to finish my Dark Fett campaign, Legacies,(Which I have barely started) and then there's RC modding, which I also REALLY want to do. This story will appear on SWFanon long before it'll appear in FoC.--1upD 14:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's my suggestions for Valen's death: perhaps he'll get killed by the Sword of Justice along with Eaoiss. Or perhaps he for some reason will go insane and end up killing himself. Maybe even he could end up getting killed by 8311 or the Legion. I don't mind if you don't use my ideas; it's your fanon, after all. You're going to do a mod based on the Legacy series? Well, it sounds difficult, so I wish you luck. Oh, and I have a question: is the CIS remnant mod ready for download right now, with the Legion being like an add-on, or will the CIS remnant and Legion be released at the same time? Either way, how will I be able to download it? Thanks. Unit 8311 17:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The Sword of Justice may be something different than you expect. He may, in fact, the Sword of Justice will for sure try to kill him. Nah... That may work. He's a lot like a younger Palpatine, though, and I think it would work a lot better for Zhssohkss getting killed by the legion. Legacy series comics!? No way, lol, that's just what I named a series of campaigns, possibly even the legion/flame order campaign, though I think that'll be seperate. If not for another mod called Legacy of War, I'd probably want to use either Legacy of War or Legacy of the Clone War for my mod's name, which is the reason for the name of the gc/campaign set. It's going to be about the legacies of the various factions of the clone wars.(Taking place during the Dark Times, moving on into the era of FoC for the Legion and for GC) Empire=Early Empire, Rebellion=Dark Fetts, CIS Remnant=Dellso's Rebellion, Zann Consortium=?(Maybe Hutts or Zann while working for the hutts) I have barely started on the Dark Fett campaign, and I'd like to work on the Flmae Order campaign. I think maybe I'll have the CIS Legacies campaign start out with Dellso, but with the option of moving on to Juc Fac. Sort of. I currently have a public beta, which may be mildly entertaining, but includes a huge score of bugs. I'm working on the next version, which you can download totally seperate. It fixes most of the bugs, adds tons of stuff the the CIS(Including the Steel Legion), adds some fun stuff I threw in just for the heck of it, etc. If you want to see my glitchy public beta, go here. After you download the .rar, put it in /mods(You may have to make a new mods folder) and download this. Click the FoC mod launcher, and select FoC - TUM. It will play the game, with the mod installed.--1upD 18:15, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Are you going to make an article on the SoJ, and if not, can you just give a hint? It's not literally a sword, is it? Oh, I thought you were going to do the Legacy comics--I was wondering how you would make all the new units required. For your Legacy thing--I recommend Legacy of the Clone Wars, by the way--perhaps you could have the early Zann Consortium, or have Zann whilst in his early days as part of a criminal gang. Thanks for the links--but I'll download that stuff later. Looking forward to the Legion mod. Unit 8311 18:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I will, after Nadenn finds the holocron. Maybe I'll make it sooner. LOL No...Maybe an ordinary sword will be next to it just to annoy the people who find it. Or maybe part of it will be shaped like a sword...Uh, bad idea(lol). Heh, yeah. It'll just be Legacies. It's supposed to be Dark Times, and we don't even know when Zann started. I know the Dark Fetts may encounter him on Ryloth in service of the hutts-but that isn't part of my fanon continuity, just an easter egg. You're welcome. Heh, I don't mind. I don't even expect you to download it-it's glitchy and there's no legion-but you can if you want to.--1upD 19:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Perhaps you could make it like the forth Indiana Jones movie and have there being several artifacts together, with the real SoJ amongst them, with the penalty for choosing the wrong one being death. It would probably bring more tension. Actually, I'll wait until the Legion mod is available. . Oh, and if the Dark Fetts are a clone group, how did you make them look like clones? Did you use somebody else's model, or did you simply use stormtroopers? And do you know anyone in the EAW modding community who's successfully created a proper story campaign? Just curious. Unit 8311 12:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * lol, if you knew what the Sword of Justice was, you'd know that wouldn't work exactly. Maybe, after the finder pulls the sword, the real thing will activate.Ok. Well, before, I made the famous '1upD's Clone Skinpack'(Which was recently beaten with a far better skinpack from a guy named Ober) It was a pack of reskins of stormtroopers that made them look sort of like clones. Lots of people have done similar things, Ober, Karl_0, Dfeeds(I really like Dfeed's clone commandoes) Anyways, now, a 3D modeler(Usernamed Codeuser) has agreed to make new 3D models to put my skins on. So yeah, the clones look awesome. No, actually. No one has ever done it before. Kinda creepy... z3r0x is the closest, he's an awesome modder, and he designed his own corruption mission. I tried to make a corruption mission, but mine didn't work.--1upD 14:31, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Or maybe there will be a sword-shaped thing that will act as a key to activating it or something--just an idea. Nobody's done a story campaign before? Well, now that I think about, it must be quite difficult to create--imagine all the work you would have to do producing maps just for the missions. Oh yes, and would it be possible to give the Legion merc assault squads as infantry for the crime GC thing? You know, the one where it's a non-playable side? And for the sub-faction Legion, could you perhaps halve the price of all non Legion exclusive units--e.g the Z-95s, pulse cannons, Keldabes, etc. Unit 8311 07:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, whatever. I'll decide when I get there. Yeah, it's scary. It is. I found out when I tried to make the Dark Fett Coruscant rescue...My first test:Tanks and stormtroopers falling from the sky, random Ion orbital bombardment, troops bouncing off the shields and landing a mile away from where they were supposed to, Troops and tanks running straight under AT-ATs which dance to stomp on all of them...It was wierd. But I think I got out most of the bugs-It'll be near-FoC quality soon enough...I hope. Ok. Hmm...I'm not sure about that. I want the game still balanced. At the moment,(just for fun) I'm trying out someone elses mod, which adds a 'Pirate Alliance' with Black Sun and the Hutts. He even added that long-dead nightsister from that Darth Maul comic. His mod looks pretty cool.--1upD 14:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if your attempt to produce a story mission resulted in dancing AT-ATs, imagine what lesser modders would produce... I understand--it'd probably make most of the CIS units redundant, now that I think about it. Sounds a good mod--although I'm not sure how that nightsister managed to get in there seeing as she was killed, unless it's set before the comic. Unit 8311 15:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL! Yeah. It's confusing...It was a fun mod though. He seriously needs to reskin some of his units-he used the Warcraft III system, size=rank. I don't see how a bunch of mini-Xizors fit in...--1upD 18:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * So the higher the rank, the bigger the unit? Imagine if that would be applied to real EAW...Palpatine would be godzilla sized and AT-ATs would be infantry sized... A bunch of mini-Xizors? Where does that come in? And BTW, have you mentioned in the Legion in any of your articles about Valen, the Flame Order, etc, or are you going to wait until we finalise the story? Perhaps you could put in a mention of it into the Gourbuh article, like I mentioned Gourbuh in the Legion article. Hey, perhaps we could collab like Darth Tyler and Troyb... Unit 8311 19:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Stupid, isn't it? Kinda funny, though. He had "Faleen Rogues" but because he couldn't reskin, he just downsized the Xizor model. Not yet. I should do that. I sort of was. Ok. We're already doing that, aren't we? LOL, for a second I thought you said collaberate with them.--1upD 20:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess you're right. Unit 8311 12:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe 8311 could also have something to do with Eaoiss's capture(From Zhssohkss) I've been planning that, and I think I'll add it to the article. 1upD 13:53, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Perhaps 8311 could capture her to sell her as a slave or to the Empire, or perhaps to try and brainwash her into serving him, or something along those lines. And by the way, what will be Gourbuh's eventual fate? Unit 8311 11:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Though that sounds good too, Eaoiss was originally Zhssohkss' slave. It's only hinted at in one of my articles, but yeah. Valen freed her from Zhssohkss and trained her in the force. I was thinking earlier, while Eaoiss was wandering through the galaxy, 8311 could've captured her and sold her to Zhssohkss. I don't know...I haven't really thought that out. Death at the hands of 8311 sounds good, but I don't want to kill him off soon. --1upD 14:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm...yeah, sounds good. Perhaps 8311 could decide that selling her was a bad idea and decides that he wants her back. Maybe she at first came to the Legion willingly. As for Gourbuh (or Gourboh, as I used to call him ), perhaps he could suffer a similar fate to Deras, or be killed by a Legion assassin. And by the way, do you have any screens of that crime GC, or is it still in the early stages? Just wondering, as I'm thinking of downloading that one once you release it. Oh, and if I download a mod for EAW, will I be able to uninstall it? --Unit 8311 20:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why would he want to take her back? That destroy the alliance prematurely...Right? Valen frees her. That could work, as she started out hitchiking through the galaxy n00bishly trying to find a purpose. Ok, but make it after the whole conflict is finished. Maybe never. No, it's still fairly early. It only works for Zann right now... It comes with my mod. You download the mod, you download the crime GC. You don't have to...If you put the mod data in the mods folder, you use that one tool to start up FoC with the mod. Otherwise, just play FoC regularly and it'll be regular. You can have multiple mods on your comuter at once and just choose which one you like.--1upD 22:11, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Does Valen free her from 8311 or from Zhssohkss? Okay, perhaps Gourbuh's forces could get smashed in a foolhardy attack on 8311's palace and then 8311 could kill Gourbuh himself in revenge. I see, thanks for the info. And by the way, I was thinking of making a theme tune for the Legion just for fun, perhaps put together from other bits of music. What do you think? Unit 8311 12:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * He frees her from Zhssohkss, 8311 would sell her to Zhssohkss. I think it would be better to have him smashed in his ship/palace. But later. Maybe even after the Yuzhan Vong. You're welcome. That would be really cool. Actually, I've already added some new music to the game. Vode An,(Mando'a for Brothers All) the RC medley by Amy Lauritzen, and The Tempest(Sorry, I played that in band class at school once and I just had to hear it in my games)--1upD 13:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice idea. Or perhaps 8311 would trade her for something, as the Flame Order doesn't seem to be the kind of thing that has a lot of money to me. Yeah--perhaps he could get shot down whilst trying to escape. Post-Vong? Nah, a bit too late--post Endor-ish would be better for me. I'm intending to make it a mixture of the ZC theme, Imperial march, and bits of music from the Command and Conquer series--played any of those? Unit 8311 14:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * True. How much would a lightsaber cost? To a museum, or something? Because their base is right next to these old tombs full of sabers. Maybe she was just part of the bargain. (During trade) "Yes, 30 E-11s and suffiecent ammo to last us for a week...That crusader...Oh, and how about her?" Maybe she wasn't even a slave before. That sounds like something a cold droid crime lord would do. Yeah, that would work. Sweet...eh...It would be illegal to put music from C&C into another game series. Nope, but they sound cool.--1upD 21:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Lightsabres? I suppose that would be the equalivent of trying to sell tons of old 1950s pistols to a musuem...perhaps the flame order has access to other old artifacts and treasure. That would probably be better. Illegal? Damn copyright laws...oh well, not the end of the world. If I do manage to make a theme for the Legion (minus the C&C bits) would it be possible for you to put it in the game? Perhaps you could make it play in a battle where the player is using mostly or totally Legion units... You should try some of them, they're really good (especially Red Alert 2, which has crap graphics by today's standards but is still a good game). Unit 8311 12:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, the artifacts. 8311 could sell them to a museum, break in the museum and steal them, and then sell them to another museum. I don't exactly know. Are the files up for free download(Put up by the game makers) or are they only accessible by opening the game files? It would, as long as its an MP3. I can't exactly change when music plays, execpt in story missions. Yeah, I should. I've heard they're good from other people too. BTW, can I put something in Eaoiss, Valen, and Zhssohkss's articles about 8311 selling weapons, supplies, and Eaoiss in exchange for the artifacts?--1upD 14:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's a good idea--sounds like the sort of thing 8311 would do. I see. Yes, you can. And by the way, for the CIS remnant, what transports land their forces on a planet in ground attacks? Unit 8311 14:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, there are some bugs with the legion transporsts, though they will be really really easy to fix. Other than that, the CIS remnant uses Hardcell transports-the big Techno Union rockets. Ok, I'll add it to the article.--1upD 14:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Legion transports? Which ships did you do for those? Unit 8311 15:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I meant just transports used by the legion...They were supposed to be hardcells, they turned out as a bunch of different transports. I'll fix that.--1upD 21:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh...I thought that the Legion had its own transports. Maybe you could have ZC transports deploy Legion units. Oh yes, and it's my birthday today! Yay! Unit 8311 16:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. How old are you now?--1upD 18:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm 16  20  18  212  8942  . Please note that that might not necessarily be my actual age.  Back to the discussion, seeing as now we've more or less finalised Legion units, all we have to do is agree on the complete story. What will 8311 and the Legion's eventual fate in the story be? Unit 8311 19:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL, yeah, I'm 12  120  2000  5000000  ageless  . Well, the article currently says he survives far beyond this, right? Fate? Really, this won't touch them in the end. A bunch of power-hungry dark jedi meet an unfortunate end. I like the idea of 8311 going through another droid body in the final battle, maybe a Magnaguard...Of course, I don't have a magnaguard model, so that wouldn't work for FoC. RC time! Just kidding. How about during the final battle he takes the form of an elite SBD? Then, as it died, he'd upload his conscience back into the IT-0. The Sword of Justice will have to die, otherwise it would affect Star Wars too much. Vader should take down the SoJ, that would give the entire story more of a connection to star wars directly. I think I'm ready to start writing all this into the articles, maybe I'll even delay the Dark Fett Legacies campaign to make this a reality.--1upD 16:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea...maybe he'll go back to his grapple form for the final battle. Yeah--maybe Vader will get curious as to what the Legion is up to, meanwhile 8311 decides he wants to SoJ to sell for trillions of credits/conquer the universe with, goes to wherever it is, the big battle commences, Vader turns up, the Empire gets involved, the SoJ gets destroyed, and meanwhile 8311 manages to escape with a bit of treasure that might be there, so he gets something out of it. What do you think? Unit 8311 16:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sweet! I can just picture the ending cinematic(Not that I can actually make cinematics)Nadenn, Eaoiss, and Valen lay on the floor dead. SoJ slowly advances toward the door(If you knew what the SoJ was, it'd make more sense) Vader opens the door. Two lightsabers come on. Then the screen switches to an IT-0 droid watching the credits in his account scyrocket, with a fleet a ships surrounding him.*Cues Legion theme that I'll assume right now is awesome sounding* Pretty nice vision of a mod. Now we need to think about the hunt for the SoJ. We've been so concerned with how the hunt started and ended that we never at all thought about it. I'd like to include Gourbuh and the Dark Fetts in it. What planets should they look on?--1upD 21:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds cool...perhaps the holocron would at first point to a planet where a clue to the next clue as to where the SoJ is is, and it would be sort of Da Vinci Code style, following one clue to the next. Perhaps Gourbug and the Dark Fetts would hear about the search from their contacts in the Legion, and could either stealthily follow them or attack them and force them to solve the clues and find the SoJ for them--you can choose. Perhaps the first planet would be Utapau, because that's a sort of Jedi-y artifact sort of planet, then they follow on to Mustafar or Shola, then to maybe Coruscant or Byss, and then we can make the third clue the final pointer to the Sword and from Coruscant/Byss they immediately head to the Soj. What do you think? And...hang on. Nadenn, Eaoiss and Valen die???? Unit 8311 06:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Gourbug? You can go back to calling him Gourboh, then. How is Utapau a jedi planet? But that sounds good. You could even have different factions on the planets to add diversity. Rebellion on Utapau, Zann on Taris(Or some other planet, that was just a random idea), Hutt Cartel(Gourbuh) on Shola(I would've prefered Mustafar but Shola is a Hutt planet), Dark Fetts on Manaan(Manaan is just too cool, it actually could be the final planet. Or a totally new planet, or some random world like Oovo IV), Empire on Byss, then finally Steel Legion on the final planet. I think it's almost time for me to tell you what the SoJ is. It's practically the same as the ending to FoC and (from what I've heard) the ending of Metroid:Hunters. Oh...Well, though the thought is disgusting at first, it's no different than killing off Zann.(Though he survived) The Flame Order is evil. Valen was going to turn it from merely evil to entirely darkside. Nadenn and Eaoiss would have saved it, but Eaoiss's death will turn him to the darkside. Kyle Katarn was right and wrong at the same time. A lightsider will be evil, and a darksider will be struggling between good an evil...I never did explain who the lightsider will be...In the end, everything is still Star Wars. Vader kills the Force Sensitives,(Purge style)(or at least finds all but one dead and kills the final) the Crime Lord is racking up the credits, and the Rebellion is still the only hope to destroy the Empire...And the two future jedi...(Plays Star Wars Credit-music)--1upD 14:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Gourbug? Oh sorry, that was a typo. My apologies. I think I read somewhere that Utapau was a founding planet of the Jedi Order. Yeah, sounds good. I think Thule should be the location of the SoJ. And if not, we could make up a planet--Ghe'ra Xa, as a sugestion for a name. How will Eaoiss die? I see. So, just to make sure, 8311 gets all the  millions  billions  trillions>  jillions  of credits from a random piece of treasure with the SoJ...perhaps the SoJ could be part of a Sith collection of treasure or something. Unit 8311 16:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok...Sure that wasn't fanon? I just realised, we can't put the SoJ on Thule, that was a sith world. The SoJ is a Jedi weapon/expiriment/you'll find out what it really is soon, not Sith. It's possible 8311 led Vader to the SoJ, as it would be imperative for the empire to destroy it. I wonder how much the Emperor would pay 8311, assuming he didn't know it was 8311 who sent out the call. I'm almost getting annoyed by having to keep the SoJ a secret from you. In fact, originally I was planning on having the holocron tell Nadenn exactly what the SoJ was, but I decided against it to build up suspense and plot(You'll see why plot later)--1upD 19:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I think I read that in one of the cross-sections or visual dictionary books...in any case, if that isn't canon, we can always just make it fanon. I see...in that case, maybe this planet would do. By that, do you mean Vader followed 8311 to the SoJ without 8311's knowledge, or 8311 deliberately showed the Empire to the SoJ? If it's imperative that the SoJ is destroyed, then the Empire would probably pay hundreds of millions at the least, perhaps even billions. Coupled with that piece of treasure 8311 takes, the story will probably end with the Legion coming out very well off indeed... I see. Maybe the Holocron could tel Nadenn what the SoJ was, but in riddle form, so perhaps Nadenn could believe that it's just a harmless piece of treasure. Unit 8311 07:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Actually, I've decided that the Jedi shunned the SoJ, that's why they buried it...I guess. I just got an amazing idea-What if it was on Coruscant? Buried in the underlevels, on the planet surface. The chase would end where it started. On second thought, that might not work. 8311 handed the SoJ over to Vader, Vader pays one of 8311's organic representitives, the money goes to the Legion. Maybe the artifact idea is better...But what artifact would be so costly? The SoJ wasn't in a Egyptian-style Sith Tomb, there wouldn't be vast treasures buried with it. Just a machine-and...something else. No, that would ruin the plot. The SoJ wants people to come to it. The suspense has built up so high, I think I should change the SoJ to something more dramatic just so not to waste all the suspense.--1upD 15:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aha. Or maybe the SoJ turned itself on its Jedi creators, who just managed to seal it away before they were killed. Yeah, the Coruscant thing wouldn't really work. You'd think an artifact of that sort would be discovered on a planet with a trillion inhabitants. Hmm...maybe 8311 gets his hands on an artificat during the chase, or perhaps he gets a statue or something in wherever the SoJ is located. In the real world, even small trinkets from tombs can reach millions on the market, you know. Let me guess why the SoJ wants people: so they can free it. Something more dramatic? I wonder what that could be...Unit 8311 16:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Who says the jedi created the SoJ? I had the idea that the SoJ hideout was under attack by the sith, so they sealed the SoJ away and blew up the facility. But they shot several holocrons out in small fighters, with clues toward the location of the SoJ, in case the jedi needed the SoJ. True...A droid. If it was an old Republic base, they would have droids. A functional T3 or...HK droid would cost millions. Though I doubt they would be functional, they could possibly still, well, exist. Right on-The SoJ wants someone to free it. Or at least, that was one idea. Actually, I kind've changed that(If we change what the SoJ is, we can change it back) The SoJ thinks that the Jedi will understand what the holocron is for-In times of war, when the Sword of Justice is needed, the Jedi can bring it back. Had Obi-Wan and Yoda known about the SoJ, they could've changed everything. Do you want to know what I have planned the SoJ to be?--1upD 22:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh? So who created the SoJ? Sounds like a good idea. Or maybe it was the SoJ that fired out the holocrons...it's an old Repubic base? I would prefer it to be some sort of old temple tomb...but still, if it's an Old Republic base, it would be teeming with antiques thousands of years old. I see--so the SoJ is more like a weapon? A Dark-Reaper type weapon, perhaps, or something that you can hold? I'm not sure...ah, go ahead, my curiosity can only take so much. . Unit 8311 07:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That was the idea, and yeah, it would be. A weapon? Hahaha, lol, something you can hold. You're sure? You're sure you're sure? Are you possitive you want to read the next sentance? Ah, It's possible we'll change it anyways. SPOILER:It's a person.--1upD 14:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * GASP! FAINT! HORROR! A person, eh? Is it some sort of genetically enhanced Jedi super-soldier? Unit 8311 14:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope, just a Jedi Sentinel. However, he's...different. He has a hatred for crime so hard that he would go out and infilitrate major crime organisations, killing all the criminals. He would slaughter anyone on the street who treated another unfairly. When he sees a bully at a school...Well, that's the reason why they kicked him. He and a few of his followers were mistaken for a Republic base by the Sith, so the Sith blew up his base. Or, they tried. When everyone knew they were going to die, they sent out the holocrons, and froze him in a block of Carbonite. Then, they blew up the base...--1upD 18:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ohhh...so if he were to be let out, he would mean bad news for the Legion. Sounds a bit like the Punisher from Marvel comics. Just to confirm the story so far: Nadenn finds the main holocron--the one that starts off the trail of riddles--and ends up believing that the SoJ is actually an object of some kind. Everyone else also shares the same belief--8311 would decide that it must be some ancient weapon of some sort worth millions of credits, and then the Empire asks him to destroy it in exchange for billions of credits--the chase starts, they eventually get to the ruined base on Ossus (we can always change it) awaken the SoJ, have a big fight, 8311 (I'm assuming he gets involved in the fight) gets an artifact or whatever and escapes, Vader turns up, defeats the SoJ, the end. Did the followers also freeze themselves, or did they also get killed? Just imagine would we could do with this story if you had the expertise and the tools to make a proper story campaign...epic CG cutscenes...a frantic chase...if only. Unit 8311 19:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but they don't know that. So he could be a trap for criminals, or a weapon for the Jedi. I don't read Marvel...Some of the movies are good.(Spider Man!) Exactly, though the Legion would be payed to contact Vader, they do, then Vader comes down. No, they all died. Well...Lets start planning. I can't do much without LUA scripting(That's a no, just looking at LUAs makes me dizzy) I beleive I can make good cutscenes. Remember the videos at the end? I can make Videos sort of like that...I think. I have fraps, I'm pretty good with Windows Movie Maker, and I have a video converter. I've never exactly tried before, however. I can make GCs. I can make planets locked. I can make planets unlocked with a trigger. I can make planets have unique maps for certain GCs. I recently downloaded a 'script pack' with a few preset LUA objects...Including text spawners...Heck, SI(the script author) even threw in music triggers and sweet new props! I'm not sure how far this will go, though, however bright it looks. Recently I've REALLY gotten into RC(I find my self singing in-Kando'sii sa Ka'rta, Vode An!-ARG!)I'm not sure if I can bring myself to go back...But I MUST.--1upD 00:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aha. Really? Ah, then it won't be quite as rudimentary as I imagined it. Sounds great! The end cutscene of FoC? You can make something like that? If so, that really would be brilliant...you sing along to RC? Resist! Resist the lull of killing trandos and droids! You must resist! Now to the more important matter of dialogue and text. Can you put dialogue in there? And would it be possible to create maps specifically for the missions, like in the proper GC? We should start working on what exactly characters are going to do/say...Unit 8311 07:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it's just .BIK files. I've got some game-video taking software, and a program to add music/dialogue/coolness to it, and I've got something to make it into a .BIK. Must...resist...temp-"Come over here you big ugly Fierfek!"*BLOWS TRANDO INTO GLITCHINESS* I can...Well, I can make text...and...uh, I can make dialogue, but my voice sucks...LOL. GC dialogue has baffled me a little. I don't understand why my TXT dialogue code isn't working. (That's the quest button) I've got to work on that. Yes...You see, I can create new planets, that are exactly the same as the regular planets, but have a story map instead of the original. So people think that they're doing a totally seperate map on an old planet, when really it's a new 'clone' planet with a new map. I can lock the 'cloned' planet after the story mission is complete. Confused? In short, yes, I can make new maps for story mode. And thanks to Sidious_Invader, I can make a few story map functions. I'm getting new ideas for improv story puzzles...I know...I'm using the Dark Fett campaign's first mission as a story mission test. I just got a great idea for a story-puzzle-thing. You've got your Stealth squad and your sniper. You have to take out several advancing M-1s, flanked by Scout Troopers. Right near where they'll pass is a whole bunch of explosive containers. You wait until the pass close enough, then snipe one of the barrels, and...BOOM. Impossible scenario avoided. I can do some stuff like that.--1upD 14:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL--I once played RC some time ago, but I was a bit of a n00b at it. I returned to it and got better, but haven't played it since. I see--so the kind of vids you can make are like the ones at the starts/ends of missions, right? As for dialogue, I'm quite good at voice acting, but I'm not ready to reveal my voice just yet. Do you think we should start working on inter-character conversations? Ah, that's good. Cool. Oh yes, and I have one last final unit request--could you give Ferd Han Solo's vehicle stunning ability, and give the Legion missile soldiers the Defiler's thermal detonator thing? Thanks. Unit 8311 19:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Er...No, I think I can make vids like the end video and put them in the middle of GCs...I think. Are you sure? Is your voice really good? LOL, I really need voice actors if we want this to work completely. Maybe...I'm not sure how much of the campaign we should plan ahead, planning ahead always adds stress later on. "Sometimes I wonder-Does he plan this all out, or make it up as he goes?" We should, however, work on character personalities so I know how they would say things. Ok. I think so...Deffinetly.--1upD 00:22, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Well, whether my voice is good is a matter of opinion, but I'm good at putting on accents and voices. Lets plan the middle parts of the campaign, as I think the beginning and end parts are more developed. So is that a yes, or a no? I think Nadenn would be a sort of gruff, Han-Solo type person and Eaoiss the sort of soft and shy one. First of all I think we should work out the conversation that gets the Flame Order involved with the Legion...Unit 8311 12:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL, ok. Um...Ok...I think, when they're searching for the starmaps/holocrons(What will they be, anyways?) it should just be standard battles, but afterwards Nadenn or Eaoiss, or even Juc or 8311, would say something like "Our archeoligists have found the Starmap, it points to "(In a less lame way) Once I get Story TXTs to work, that would be very simple to make, and still fairly entertaining. LOL, you've actually got it the wrong way around. Maybe I should change that...Leaving a primitive world to explore the galaxy and then being enslaved by a trandoshan would make one rather shy. But I had planned on Eaoiss acting sort of like Alora,(JK3?) taunting Nadenn and at the same time trying to lure him closer to the Dark Side. I had Nadenn pictured always wanting the best for the galaxy, until eventually the corruption set in place by Valen took over. Oh yeah, you're right. I think Juc Fac would pop up and say something about the legion, he'd really want to ally with another ex-sep, maybe to eventually get all the CIS remnants under one banner, and reforge the Confederacy. But 8311 wouldn't want that... It still wouldn't stop them from allying.--1upD 14:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe on some planets it would be starmaps, and others holocrons. The starmaps would give a straight location to wherever they would have to go next, and the holocrons a riddle of some kind--e.g. for, say, Naboo, it would be I am a beautiful jewel of blue and green colour, and fish dwell within me. 8311, being a super-intelligent droid, would probably be doing all the riddle-solving, or perhaps Eaoiss. Yeah, I agree--Nadenn, being an ex-stormtrooper, would be the kind of bossy one. Sorry I haven't played JK3 (yes, same on me, I know ) That sounds okay--maybe he could find some sort of old CIS commander--but why wouldn't 8311 want that? Unit 8311 17:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Maybe more punny ones of ones that would test the players knowledge of star wars. Actually, I envisioned Nadenn being more shy...Until he fell to the Dark Side. That's ok. CIS commander? I think you misunderstood me. The reason Juc Fac would want 8311 to join him was because 8311 was once a CIS officer, like him. Eventually, he might have his CIS ghost turned into a totally new CIS. 8311 had the legion, had his crime, and had his money. He might not want to go back to the CIS. However, such an event never happened anyways.--1upD 00:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah...actually, what if the player had to solve the riddles instead of the characters? And perhaps he/she could get penalised if he chose the wrong planet...it would bring a whole new edge to it. I see--yeah, that does seem logical for 8311. Here are some suggestions I came up with the riddles for the planets. Feel free to modify or change them any way you want: Utapau: I am the home to Shorts and Ancients, the deathplace of a mighty conquerer, and where great cities are but holes in the ground. Taris: The once great face of a civilisation; now destroyed by the hands of darkness'. Shola: I am violent and fiery; once I was paradise, now due to the folly of my children I am hell. I would do more, but have we finalised which planets they're going to be? I thought Utapau, Taris, Shola, and then Ossus. Am I missing/adding any? Unit 8311 16:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I meant. No, they'd just have to conquer another planet. It would still bring a whole new edge to it. Ok, those are good. Maybe shorten them then. I am home to the shorts and the ancients, Once a great civilisation, I was destroyed by the hands of the darkness, and I was once a paradise, but now am hell. The list was Utapau, Taris, Shola, Manaan, Byss, final planet. I thought we decided against Ossus? It's too Jedi-ish. I just got an idea. What if the planet was a primitive world? The player would have to fight through indigenous forces first before confronting the Legion. It could be that primitive Sephi planet. I could put it in other GCs too, and maybe, if I can figure out how, make a kidnapping mission for the ZC...Have you made the Steel Legion theme yet?--1upD 20:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, although I think shortening them would make them a bit more difficult, but oh well. Okay--for Manaan the riddle could be I am a beautiful sapphire with a healing touch or something like that, and for Byss it could be I am located within the deep darkness, shrouded in myth. That's actually not a bad idea...although I think we should perhaps make one up. The Sephi planet? You mean Thustra? I think that's a little too obscure. Perhaps even on this primitive world the inhabitants could worship the SoJ like a god...I'm working on it, but I must warn you that tomorrow I'm going away from home and won't be back until Thursday. Unit 8311 09:40, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's the point. It'll be more fun if they're difficult. Good riddles. Thrusta? No, that other Sephi planet. The primitive unamed one...It's Eaoiss' homeworld.I don't think the primitive Sephi are that stupid. If we made up a new one, the inhabitants could be. Ooh...Is it catchy? Uh...I must warn you that I'm leaving wednesday and comming back next sunday.--1upD 15:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point. Oh--if it's unnamed, what do you think we should call it? I still think we should make one up though. I'm trying to make it catchy, but music isn't my strong point.  Oh...well that's a pity because I'm leaving next Monday again, this time for a month. What time are you coming back on Sunday? Unit 8311 17:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll just call it the Unknown Planet. Ok. I don't know....--1upD 22:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah. In that case, because this might be the last post I write here for a while, here's some dialogue I came up with. It's a bit rudimentary, so feel free to improve on it. If I've mischaracterised any of your characters, you can change it appropiately.

This bit is for when Nadenn and Eaoiss try and ask 8311 to help them. This could be either via holo-communications or in person, you choose. "8311':Who are you? Be quick about, I'm busy." "Nadenn: We, uh, want to ask for your help." "Oh, brilliant. Don't tell me you're another petty criminal who wants a few credits." "No, no. I'm affiliated with something called the Flame Order. We need allies. We have heard of your power, and we would like..." "So you're part of a cult. How may I profit from this?" "We seek something called the Sword of Justice. From the limited information I have about it, it seems it is an object of awesome power. If you help us, we could share its power with you. Your crime organization could dominate the underworld, giving you power beyond what you have now." "Hmm. Well, I've believe it when I see it." "You doubt our authiency?" "I have my contacts. I'm already aware of your existence. Very well, I'll lend a hand, so to speak. Besides, I've been bored lately, and I suppose this could get my circuits stimulating." "Thank you."

- 8311 and Nadenn

Oh yeah, and I was thinking that perhaps the SoJ should be a female. For some reason, I just think a girl would be more appropiate. Are you going to be creating an article on the SoJ, BTW? What should his/her real name be? If it's a man, I think it should be either Jan Kusra or perhaps Yav Uya, and if it's a woman, perhaps Amelia Traceheart or Keria Vassa. BTW, If you're reading this by very late Sunday or late Monday, expect a reply from me in September, although I might reply occasionally, so be sure to check here from time to time. I'll be leaving in the afternoon on Monday, British time. Unit 8311 20:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Um...I already replied, but the message didn't get through. My comp is laggy. Very good dialogue! I'll be sure to use it. I've started work on the campaign itself, though right now I'm just getting the map set up. Now that I think about it, a girl SoJ would be cool. But the SoJ's personality seems to make more sense on a man, plus, in the game files there's a 3D model of a jedi master frozen in carbonite. I was planning on using the name Norfind, it was a random name from Neverwinter Nights, and I used it in KotoR, I planned on eventually making a Norfind seperate from Revan, but I never got around to it.--1upD 16:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Actually, I've hit a roadblock. There's a huge glitch in my mod. I think it has to do with the story dialogue files...Besides that, it's going great. The campaign starts out with Juc Fac having to help Dellso, then he forms his remnant, and invades Hoth looking for the Flame Order, then gets some Flame Order heroes and can build Flame Adepts. The last part was never tested because of the bug...--1upD 17:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Sounds good--have you done the dialogue for that yourself, or shall I come up with some for you? What's the glitch? By the way, I have a question: is the Flame Order more like a shadowy body that only people with extensive contacts know about, or some famous thing that people know and fear? I know it's not very extensive, as your page on it says, but y'know, news travels fast in the GFFA...anyway, I've come up with another bit of dialogue that you can use. This is for when the Legion betrays Nadenn and the others.

"Valen: At last, we've arrived at the location of the Sword of Justice. Finally, we can go ahead with our goals..." "Nadenn: Are we sure about this? Remember, we're not actually sure what the thing is..." "(8311 pops up on a holo-communications thing or whatever--it'd be a bit stupid for him to directly speak to the people he's betraying)8311: Ah. Gentlemen--and ladies--I have some news for you." "Valen:Is it important?" "8311:How to put this: you're going to get your asses kicked." "Valen:What is the meaning of this?" "8311:Well, let's just say that a man who dresses in black and has breathing problems has approached my organization and has arranged for a big reward--and by 'big', I mean an amount of credits even I have difficulty imagining--in exchange for making sure that the Sword doesn't get into your hands. So, I'm afraid that you can expect your little cult to become a footnote in the history books in--ooh, the next few minutes?" "Eaoiss:You...you...we had a deal! Doesn't anything other than money concern you, droid?" "8311:Look, for crying out loud, I didn't become one of the most powerful figures in the underworld by sticking to deals. Besides, with all the holocrons containing those riddles and the Sword of Justice--whatever it may be--I'll have much more credits than I'd have sticking to the deal. I'm sorry, it's nothing personal, but business is business. Now, let's dance. The Empire is on its way here, so even if by some miracle you beat my forces, you'll get crushed anyway. Goodbye, meatbags."

- the conversation

What do you think? Unit 8311 17:45, 4 August 2007 (UTC) "Ground Team Officer:Sir, we've found something! There's a strange camp here-it looks deserted. Let me finish checking this log... They are indeed part of a force organisation, the Flame Order, the log calls it. They abandoned camp due to a Rebel presence on the planet that could attract unwanted attention. Two of their operatives are headed to Zonju V. It could be a trap, as logs are usually deleted or transfered during evac. But I believe it was because they will not be on Zonju V for long. Juc Fac: Thank you. I beleive promotion is in order. I will go to Zonju IV, to track these agents. The Flame Order appears to be a valuable ally in these dangerous times- Computer:Incomming Transmission... Valen:Your troops are indeed gullible. We have been eavesdropping on your transmissions since your team entered our camp. We are convinced you will not be a threat, and have decided to offer an alliance. I am Valen, Master of the Flame Order."
 * I have been writing the dialogue myself. The glitch is that whenever I attack a planet the game closes down. >_> It's fairly shadowy, but they aren't really concerned about people knowing about them as long as the Empire doesn't find their base, which isn't even going to be shown in FoC. LOL, nice. Valen should say the first line, then Nadenn, replace Nadenn's next line with Valen, and the 'you had a deal' with Eaoiss...Wait...Does that completely eliminate Nadenn? Oops...Well, personality matters. I didn't intend to include words such as "ass" in my mod, but I like UN-8311's personality too much. At first I thought it wasn't good for a droid, but then I thought back to droids such as HK-47.--1upD 18:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, I'll also replace Eaoiss's "What is the meaning of this" with either Valen or Nadenn. Sorry about the Char flipping.--1upD 18:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah. Sounds bad--but there's probably a way to get rid of it. I see. Okay, I've changed it. Well, bear in mind that I could have always made 8311 use the s and f words frequently... Now, what other dialogue could I come up with...(thinks) Unit 8311 18:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, out of curiousity, could I see some of the dialogue you're writing for the campaign? Unit 8311 19:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm totally baffled by the bug. LOL. Ok, I guess I haven't really given the dialogue that much thought.

- First contact with the Flame Order

It took me a while to hunt through my .DAT string file and piece that together, but yeah, that's what the dialogue is like currently.--1upD 19:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's actually not too bad...though I think that there should be a bit of negiotation before Juc immediately says 'okay' or whatever. In the meantime, I've come up with some dialogue you could use for the ending cutscene(s)--feel free to alter this however you want.

(Aboard Iron Harbinger or some other place--8311 is looking at a screen with rising credit numbers, with Ferd Swqaru/random sinister aide standing beside him.) "8311:Heh, I knew this would be profitable. The money from the holocrons and starmaps, coupled with the reward from the Empire and some other stuff from that Flame Order, is really gonna make my fiscal chiefs happy." "Ferd/Random aide:An impressive victory, sir. How about casualties in the battle with those Force users?" "8311:Irrelevant--easily replaceable. Although I suppose I have mainly the Flame Order to thank for this blessing on my bank accounts. Oh well, I suppose whatever's left of it will be crushed soon--and seeing as they were fool enough to tell me their various artifact stashes, it looks like my accounts will really be bursting at the seams..."

- 8311 and aide

This bit I felt would be a nice addition--Vader reporting to Palps on Coruscant.

"Palpatine:Report, my apprentice." "Vader:The Sword of Justice is gone, and the Flame Order is virtually gone." "Palps:Excellent. The Flame Order was small, but it had potential to become a threat. You did well, Lord Vader." "Vader:Thank you, my master. I must also report that I am certain that that droid 8311 is head of the Steel Legion--it seems that the Flame Order make an alliance with him. The Legion has greatly profited from this business." "Palps:In that case, I feel that 8311 should be removed soon--he's becoming too much of a threat. Now, we must focus our efforts on bigger problems, such as the Rebellion..."

- Palps and Vader And there it ends. What do you think? Unit 8311 08:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You're right, but remember that story-wise it's a loose affiliation rather than a large scale merger of armies. LOL, ok, I was expecting no dialogue at all in that part...Maybe a little. I think the first may be drawn out a tiny bit, and something about 'such as the rebellion' strikes me as unnecesary...IDK. I'm not making any progress at all because of the glitch. I have absolutely no idea what triggers it, but something about the CIS must be corrupt...LOL, this must be the work of Zann!--1upD 15:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh...by that, do you mean that it's a loose affiliation between the Legion/FO? Heh, it's normally the ending cutscenes that should have the most dialogue. I put in the bit of the rebellion just to connect it to the rest of the SW universe--BTW, just when exactly is the campaign supposed to be set? I was perhaps thinking that if we set it just before ANH, we could have Darth Vader tell Palps about the missing Death Star plans and then head off to catch the Tantive IV, leading directly into Episode IV, which I would find a bit cool...well, every glitch has a cause, so despite being a complete, how to put it, n00b at programming and modding, I would simply advise a trial and error method--see if changing things around has any affect. Unit 8311 15:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I meant CIS/FO, but that could also count for CIS/FO/SL. Everyone loves acronyms. You're right. Oh. I was going to have it take place after Episode IV, in-between IV and V. You get to fight a rebel garrison on Hoth(Not necassarily the whole base, just a scouting party.) So you could have that apply to directly before Episode V. Why did they send a probe to a planet as remote as Hoth? The Steel Legion read the FO logs about it, and 8311 included that in his report to Vader. I dunno if that fits with canon, I'll look it up at Wookiepedia in a sec. Oh gosh...Last year, I spent weeks staring at confusing XML code, wasting my precious summer childhood moments on a doomed dream, meant for a geeky boy's sleep. Modding has a price. Time. I don't want to spend any more than I have to. If logic doesn't work, I may want to totally reconstruct the mod, or risk losing credit for it by sharing it's files with more skilled coders. If worst comes to worst, I'll try trial and horror-I mean 'error', 'error'!--1upD 22:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Well, there's the problem that during this time the Legion is collapsed and 8311 is working for the rebels, but oh well, perhaps we could have it in a different universe where the Legion never collapses...or perhaps we could follow my suggestion and set it just before Episode IV, and at the end of it Palpatine decides to get rid of 8311 after Vader informs him of the money he's made...I don't know. I think they sent it to a planet such as Hoth because the Empire's expecting the Rebellion to be somewhere remote...I don't think that fits in canon, as the probe droid was probably just one of thousands sent to random planets...I see. Heh, I immediately get a headache when I look at any large amount of computer code... Well, I used to make scenarios for SWGB (and I sometimes still do) and occasionally they wouldn't work, and it took trial and error (or going through dozens of triggers) to solve. Just thought that would be a good piece of advice. Meanwhile, if the campaign's going to take a while, would it be possible to have the CIS/Legion mod ready for download before the campaigns ready and have the campaign as a later add-on? Just a suggestion...Unit 8311 08:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Really? Alternate Universe!? Ew. This could be a major continuity rip...Uh...Fine, I'll set everything back to before Episode IV, but I really wanted to add my fanon to the GCW. You're right about the probe, but it seems unlikely that they'd find the rebellion like that. *SIGH* Continuity first! Oh, the SWGB editor! I used to love that thing. I made a campaign all about the Battle of Muunilinst, but it was fairly buggy. I wish the EaW editor could've been more like SWGB. The code in EaW is stored in XML files, and it's very long. It allows much more customisation than SWGB, but there's SO MUCH, in comparison to SWGB. It's more like unit editing for SWBF, which I also have done(without too much success) It is a good piece of advice, but my mod is just too big. It takes me like 5 minutes just to load up the game. So I could try removing little things, then launching the game, but it would take about 10 minutes for each test. Also, if I remove something that something else needs, it could create a new glitch entirely! The Campaign will take hardly any time at all, if the glitch is fixed and there are no new glitches.--1upD 14:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Good. Well, bear in mind that the GCW was happening before Episode IV as well, just that after Yavin it really flared up, so this doesn't completely erase your fanon from the GCW. I think in one of the campaign missions for SWGB the Empire found data leading to Hoth, so perhaps it wasn't a complete conincidence. Yeah...that's funny, I once made a campaign about Muunilinst! I used a lot of downloaded mods for it as well...I know, nowadays scenario editors are really complicated things. Why can't they just be like the Age of Empires II/SWGB editor? Unit editing for SWGB? You can change the stats of units in the SE using effect triggers...oh. Well, good luck in trying to fix the glitch. There has to be a solution for it, somewhere. Unit 8311 15:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Really? I never finished all the campaigns... So many people have. I couldn't get the mod installer to work. It seriously sucked. LOL, yeah. You can't truly edit units in SWGB. There wouldn't be all that much to edit anyways. In EaW, there are thousands of little details to edit. How fast they are, how fast the walk, how fast they slow down, how fast they turn, icons, models, GUI models, lots of text, weapon stats, etc etc. I know. I think it was the story dialogue files. I'll try disabling them.--1upD 01:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh? My mod installer worked fine...really? Not literally thousands? Well, hopefully that might be the cause of the problem...by the way, looking back through those screens you showed me a while back, I noticed it was possible to call in 40 units into battle. How did you do that? That's what the developers should have done...Unit 8311 08:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * How'd you do it? Not literally. I just finished counting...It looks like there's an even 100 code lines that make up just the single(squad data not inluded) Battle Droid, not counting name or comment lines. Really? My mod is one of the few that hasn't done that yet. Maybe after the bug's killed I'll fix that.--1upD 15:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I just downloaded the mod installer, downloaded a mod and selected 'install mod' in the installer...oh. Is it the same code lines for each unit? Oh...I thought it was a deliberate part of the mod. Unit 8311 17:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Whenever I open the mod installer, it bugs up. Well, not all code lines are necassary, so different units can have different ammounts of lines of code. Yeah, where'd you find that? It's interesting that the computer could do that without me.--1upD 00:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's strange...maybe your computer can't accept it. I see. I saw it in those images you showed me of the Iron Harbingers seismic missiles and that--does it actually allow you to bring 40 units into battle, or is it just some misleading thing that shouldn't be there? Unit 8311 08:40, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's very strange. Whoa! I see it too! How'd that get there? I seriously have no idea. I think maybe the dev's did do that, but neither of us noticed.--1upD 15:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So, like I said, does it actually let you bring 40 units into battle? If so, it's probably worth keeping...Unit 8311 18:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * w000t! Sidious Invader, the same guy who created skirmish triggers, broke a modding law of physics, and inspired me to make a campaign, just figured out the bug! I had forgotten a few _s. And it ruined the entire mod...Kinda disturbing, when you think about it. Anyways, I haven't tested it yet, but I'm sure it'll work!--1upD 14:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So the bug is solved? Great! BTW, I came up with some more dialogue you could use. Want to see it? Unit 8311 16:43, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * *Doo doo-dee doo!*(Revan Voice)Didn't work!--1upD 20:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I took so long to reply, but unfortunately I'm still on holiday and I had to do silly things such as go out to places when I could be editing Wikis. Any progress with the bug? Do you want to see some more dialogue I came up with, or have any dialogue requests? And you should definitely check out this, if you haven't done so already. Unit 8311 14:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * w00t! I fixed it!--1upD 21:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yay! What was the cause of it? Do you want to see my dialogue, then? Unit 8311 12:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Some prolems in the story dialogue txts. Ok! One problem is that, while I was on a roll, while I was away I became addicted to GM and now I'm kind've lazy in FoC terms. But one of my friends is getting interested in EaW and that may inspire me again.--1upD 14:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Right then--first of all, I thought we could have some dialogue before each planet featured--you know, where on each world you have a different side to fight, like you said. This one is for Taris--the one where you said the ZC was going to be. Change it however you want if you're not happy with it.

Nadenn/Valen/Eaoiss/One of the Flame Order people: Here we are, Taris. Used to be a grand planet on the scale of Coruscant, until it was obliberated by the Sith thousands of years ago.

Another FO person: So, according to the last clue we found, the next sign should be on this world. Can we expect anyone to get in our way?

8311: Zann.

FO person: Who?

8311: You don't know who Zann is? Oh, come on...you know, that guy with the long hair? Head of Zann Consortium? One of my most powerful rivals...let's just say that he's a pain in the ass.

Random FO/Legion soldier: Consortium ships, incoming!

8311: Told you so.

What do you think? If you want, I can do dialogues for the before/after cutscenes of each battle during the hunt for the SOJ...what's GM, by the way? Unit 8311 15:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oooh...I don't think I can have dialogue at the start of a non-story battle. (The entire idea was to string non-story battles together with dialogue in-between to give the player the feel of a story campaign, with little LUA code) I can do some map-flipping for the dialogue, but it'll take up more HD space. I guess it wouldn't be to bad...Aw, whatev, I can make the maps more fun while I'm at it. Currently, I haven't even started the hunt for the SoJ. (I'm having some difficulties with disabling buildings, long story) I'd like to make another mission before the 'CIS'(FO/Juc) meets the Steel Legion. Maybe something at Mandalore, maybe with Darj Daedron, or something like that. Of course I'd need User:Ewoksfist's permission...again...You see, I had approached Ewoksfist earlier similarly to when I approached you, but my mod was taking a long time,(bugs!) so I gave Darj over to another mod I currently support, which adds an entire faction for him. It would be interesting to see Darj and my partially fulfilled promise total fulfilled. Mark Overmars'-er, Yoyo Game's Game Maker is a fun program that allows people to create 2D games.--1upD 15:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay...maybe during the battle? I don't know if that can be done, but there's no harm in trying...really? Where exactly are you in the campaign then? I see. Sounds good--I'm not going to try it right now due to the fact that the computer I'm currently using is, as Luke Skywalker would put it, a piece of junk. And by the way, I have a question that only crossed my mind just now: what happens in the game when you put 8311 down on a planet? Does he become something like Mon Mothma, and if so, does he have any effects--e.g. increasing planetary income via Legion crime or something? Unit 8311 13:05, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * *Slaps forhead* Same thing. Did you mean download the other mod? I was just showing you the page, if you're not excited about it, you don't need to download it. It is pretty cool though. Mandos FTW! Er...You can't. lol, it's a little mistake required by a piece of code...Sorry...He's safer up in space anyways.--1upD 15:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, I thought you meant the bit before the battle where the 'begin/autoresolve' options come up. Speaking of which, are the battles auto-resolveable? Well, I can't download anything right now, because I'm not using my own computer right now...I see. Does nothing happen if you try? Unit 8311 15:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think maybe I can do that, but it'd be hard...You can never be sure with the faulty story XMLs. Currently, yes, when I make time to figure out how to disable it, no. Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah, nothing happens. I know why, too.--1upD 20:17, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I apologise for delaying my time to response, but unfortunately my holiday plans got in the way of Wiki editing (again). However, I'm now back home and I can promise no more significant delays in replying. I see. How come then? I was just think that it would be cool if putting 8311 on the planet had some sort of effect...BTW, I prepared some dialogue for the aftermath of the Taris battle.

FO person: Success! The next pointer is ours. We're one step closer to the Sword of Justice!

Another FO person: Good. Valen will be pleased. By the way, thanks for the help, droid. Your familiarty with the Consortium made this battle much easier for us.

8311: Well, don't all thank me at once. And don't call me droid. Let me have the communicator now, I have business to sort out.

Zann (on communicator): 8311. I knew you were involved in this the moment I detected the Iron Harbinger in the vicinity. What do you want now?

8311: For once, Tyber, I'm not interested in you or your silly Consortium. I just wanted to tell you that I have some friends here that...

FO person: Do NOT tell him who we are, droid.

Zann: Who's that?

8311: Never you mind. As I was saying, we came here to get something, and we got it--no thanks to you. I still you still haven't found a decent hairdresser, by the way.

Zann: I'm too busy to argue with you, droid. I have business on Felucia involving Jabba. Goodbye.

FO person: Was that conversation necessary, droi--I mean 8311?

8311: Not really, but I like insulting that arrogant bastard Zann...anyway, where are we going next?

And then we have the riddle after Taris. What do you think? By the way, you can replace the FO people in the script with whoever you feel appropiate. I know 8311 is hogging the dialogue a bit, but you can change it if you want. And by the way, I need images for my Ferd Swqaru page, which I'm thinking of nominating for GA--could you please do me a favour and upload some images of Ferd in his Canderous kicking arse? And maybe with some Legion units accompying him...Thanks. Apropos of that, does Ferd appear in the strongest capital ship if you put him in space, like Mon Mothma? Unit 8311 14:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Sending Transmission...
 * It's ok. It's sort of a glitch... You see, in order to limit units to his planet, do to some Petro mess up, he has to be a space hero. ROFL, I LOVE the way you keep insulting Tyber's hair.--1upD 17:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see. Yeah, it's because Tyber looks like a hippie with that hair. Did you read the Darthipedia article on him? How's progress on the campaign, BTW? Started the SoJ hunt yet? And, like I asked, could you upload some screens of Ferd in action for me, and perhaps some of the Legion cloaking V-wings and Keldabes? Unit 8311 10:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ROFL, that's hilarious.(I read the article) He does look like Dass Jenir. Um...I haven't touched EaW in ages. I'm so unresponsible...Sometimes I want to punch myself. No, that's probably going to be towards the end of the campaign. I think I forgot the cloaked V-wings entirely! Well, I better get to work....I hope I don't start dropping projects like I used to.--1upD 22:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah. What?? What?? Get to work or I'll be...er...mildly annoyed. Did you remember to put the Keldabe in? Well, we all have problems dedicating ourselves to long-term things--it's human nature. Unit 8311 07:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL. Er...No. I don't think we should, it would make Harbinger seem less unique. I'll put it in anyways. Yeah, especially mine.>_>--1upD 20:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to say, there's been a slight change in the order of things. Since the FO/Remnant fought Gourbuh before the SoJ hunt, I'm going to have them ally with 8311 before the SoJ. I'm coding the mission right now. Here's the dialogue(8311 hasn't been introduced yet)

Juc: Excellent. Our deal is complete. Valen, you will find sanctuary and protection among our droids, while we may call on you in time of distress. Now, our affiliates are still lacking. With the rise of the Empire, crime rates rocketed above the already astounding ammount. If we had eyes in the underworld, we could become all but omnipresent. Corruption is now the only tactic useful against this invincible Empire.

Darth Valen: Are you mad? The only true enemies of the underworld other than the Empire is itself! The ensuing gang violence would destroy us!

Juc: There is no other way to infilitrate a galactic power like this one. Droids make awful commandos, and I'm sure you don't intend to take over the galaxy yourself. What else would you propose, direct assualt? I believe we can easily find a gang or syndicate that would be willing to help us. Nar Shaddaa is the perfect target world, if we can get past the Hutt authority on Nal Hutta. I'd like two of your finest to aid me in the invasion, unless you object, an unwise start to our alliance.

Task: Invade Nal Hutta to gain access to Nar Shaddaa

What do you think? (Your turn for the Legion-Remnant treaty, you could just edit out the part about SoJ) Also, the names aren't listed except for when they're first shown, after that it goes by a color coded system. Misc./Ground teams are in white, Juc is in Red, Valen is in orange, though I might change it to purple and have either Nadenn or Eaoiss be orange.--1upD 21:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC) Darth Valen: Excellent. I've learnt of this powerful crime synidcate known as the 'Steel Legion'--apparently it rivals Black Sun and the Hutt Cartel in terms of power and military.
 * Okay. Good. Not bad text, I must say. Okay, here's the revised Legion-Remant treaty:

Juc: Who leads it?

Darth Valen: Outside of the underworld, it's leadership is sketchy, but I've managed to interrogate a few thugs. It's controlled by a droid called UN-8311, or simply 8311. Not much is known about him, but I'm pretty sure that he's an old CIS droid.

Juc: What makes you think he'll agree?

Darth Valen: He's more trustworthy than the average crime lord...or so I've heard, anyway. I'm establishing an uplink with him now.

8311: Who is it?

Darth Valen: I am Darth Valen of the Flame Order. We wish to propose an alliance.

8311: Darth who? I only knew about one Darth in this galaxy... What do you want?

Darth Valen: I'll explain everything to you later. We have heard of the power of your Steel Legion, and we want your assistance in getting our goals.

8311: Flame Order...oh yes, my contacts told me about you. You're a small cult, aren't you? How would I benefit from this?

Juc: He knows about you?

Darth Valen: Be quiet.

8311: Who's that?

Darth Valen: Never mind. Anyway, our aim is to bring down the Empire. If we combined our forces, we could bring it down with ease, and you would take control of it's assets. We would lose an enemy, and you would gain even more riches.

8311: I'm rich enough as it is.

Darth Valen: We also know ancient secrets that you could benefit from.

Juc: I don't think he's going to agree.

8311: Hmm...okay. I've been bored lately, and I suppose this could get my circuits stimulated. Very well, you got yourselves an ally. Be warned, if I sense the slightest trace of treachery, you won't know what will hit you.

Darth Valen: Understood. We will meet at these co-ordinates to discuss further details. Valen out.

What do you think? And then after this we could have the FO and remnants discuss the new alliance for a bit before planning with 8311 what do do next. Your thoughts? Unit 8311 11:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Good, besides two continuity errors. The Sith weren't known to the rest of the galaxy(From what I know) only the jedi. I highly doubt 8311 would know about the Sith's existance, unless he heard about Maul beating up Black Sun. Even then, he'd only know about one, but I doubt he'd for sure say "I thought there was only one". So, even if he did know about the Sith, he wouldn't know their numbers. The other thing is *SIGH* the reason they fight Gourbuh would be because of the alliance. My intention was that 8311 would try to manipulate them into fighting his gang war with Gourbuh, just like Valen warned Juc about.--1upD 15:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've changed it. Well, Darth Vader was pretty public during the GCW era, so it would be easy for the average person to guess that the Sith were around in one form or another. Okay, my bad. Please forgive me, master... Unit 8311 07:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * *SIGH* Why do I keep forgetting to reply? It vanishes off of the watchlist and I forget you even replied. Anyways, ok, it's fixed. Right now I've been working on a large scale easter egg, which may eventually become a separate mod. Don't worry, it's not like a big TC or anything. Well...It would be a TC, but I'm demoting it to addon because of time constraints.--1upD 21:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Good. I see--what's this easter egg about, then? Unit 8311 07:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * *SIGH* It was about Metroids... A horrible error in GM is preventing me from loading FoC. It's not a mod problem, it's not a GM problem, it's not a FoC problem, it's some sort of system problem caused by GM. And a friend of a friend is going to try to kill me tommorow. So, yeah, modding looks bleak for me right now. I'm sure I'll fix it though. I've fixed every other problem. --1upD 20:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Metroid? Oh, I loved those games...especially the Prime series...played Corruption yet? Okay, I see. Right. Well, I'm sure there's a solution for it somewhere. Any progress on the campaign or the cloaking vehicles, BTW? Unit 8311 12:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * UGGHHHH....I got pushed around by Skeeter. Those comics suck. I don't even own the issue. You play Metroid Prime? Good, I added Samus and am planning on Dark Samus.  I'll be sure to put them somewhere no one will find them...Um...There was progress, but it won't matter if I can't get FoC up and running.--1upD 20:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. I see--how did you do Samus? Did you re-skin a stormtrooper or something? Heh--I wonder which planet in EAW looks like Zebes? Or Tallon IV? Okay--well, if you've solved previous problems, you'll probably solve this one. Unit 8311 12:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ROFL, I almost did, but I found an absolutely perfect way. *glances around* Ok, this was gonna be a secret to keep it from other modders, but (LOL, who would steal such a wacky idea?) look at the Dark Trooper p3 from FoC. The 'Face' of the helmet was easily replaced by Samus' green visor, the stormtrooper tubing was replaced by those air tubes on Samus' helmet, and the rest was simply recolored and alphaed to match Samus' suit. It worked SO DANG WELL! The DT3 even has arm cannons(though they're sort of a different type...) I don't think I'll add new planets from Metroids,(yet) that may be pushing it. Though I might eventually make a Metroid addon mod for my friend who suggested it. LOL, he wanted Trace's race to have an entire faction. I probably will solve it. I've been talking with the other geeks at PFF about it, and they told me how to ensure FoC's safety during the reinstalling(LOL, copy it over to a different HD. I can't believe I didn't think of that my self...) I just got back from camp, if you were wondering why I disappeared.--1upD 20:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The dark trooper...heh, I wouldn't have thought of that. Nice idea. I presume you did the same for dark samus but with a different colour? Yeah, a Metroid mod might be a good idea...although I think Trace's race (IIRC, it was called the Trikens or something) is a bit too obscure--although the space pirates would certainly be a possibility. I see. Okay. Unit 8311 10:36, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't made Dark Samus yet, but I intend to. Heh, I might do it before I fix FoC just for fun! Oh yeah, they were called the Kriken. That was just his suggestion, I didn't really like that idea. I don't think I'll add any new Metroid factions, just a sort of Metroids vs. Star Wars (Star Wars would pwn, lol) with Samus helping the Rebellion(Despite being a bounty hunter, she has a good sense of discernment(Don't help the SA-X!lol) and always ends up on the right side) the Space Pirates with Zann(Who else would I put them with? The Empire wouldn't accept that sort of large scale alliance, and the Rebellion's morals would get in the way) and the Hunters with the Empire($$$). Discussing this reminds me, I don't know what to Reskin to make the Pirates and Hunters. Trandos? Hmm...no way...Human civilians might actually work for Prime pirates, but I wanted either Super or Corruption pirates.(Even though I've never played MP3) Anyways, I'll probably end up copying FoC over to the other HD, removing FoC from drive F, and reinstalling. The registry may blow up FoC permanently, though. I'm too nervous, too bored, and too lazy to do it now lol.--1upD 15:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. By the way, what--if anything--are you using for Samus's soundbites? She doesn't tend to make any noises apart from grunts in the game...I see. Not so sure that SW would win so easily, bear in mind that they have technology in Metroid to change people into marbles and brains that shoot rings.... Maybe Mon Cals could work for pirates...nah, perhaps not. Yeah, Corruption's pirates look coolest, as did the pirate commandos from Echoes. Yeah, I can understand that. Unit 8311 16:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Samus is silent, just like in the games. Well, I was saying that just because, well, SW is HUGE and Metroids is a relatively small Nintendo game franchise. Actually, maybe Metroids would win. Think about it, the Metroid guns all seem so powerful in comparison to the Star Wars earthlike blasters. I would do Echoes pirates, but it makes the most sense to have Corruption pirates because I'll have Dark Samus on the same side as them. Maybe I will end up with Prime pirates. Oh yeah, pretty soon I may boost Eaoiss' appearance in FoC using a highly unstable and unethical method-Face ripping.(Sounds funny until you know what it means, lol)--1upD 20:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, maybe it would be funny to give her some of the grunts from the game, but that would sound a bit, you know... Well, Metroid isn't that small--Prime 3 is near the top of the game charts here where I am. Especially seeing as Metroid guns can gain extra ammunition by sucking up glowing ball things. Okay. Er...what does face-ripping mean? You aren't literally going to rip off her face, are you?  Unit 8311 17:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know if I can find any. Yeah, it is an awesome series, but it's not nearly as popular as some others. LOL, yeah, I think that's just game mechanics. No, I'm going to rip someone else's face off and give it to her. See what I mean?--1upD 17:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. Yeah, I guess you're right--it's all thanks to those Halo games. Oh well--we all know that Samus can pwn Master Chief any day. Heh, yeah. I see--whose face exactly? Unit 8311 17:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Down with Cheif! Down with Chief! LOL, Halo is pretty fun, actually. You wouldn't know her. Don't concern yourself with the origins of the picture, it's Eaoiss now. Heh, lol. BTW, I've begun reinstalling FoC.--1upD 20:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah. I don't know, I've never been a big fan of Halo, I think it's kinda overrated...I mean, it's okay to play in short bursts, and online is good, but play it for long and it's a bit repetive...okay, I see. Good. Unit 8311 15:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * *SIGH* FoC is so depressing now. I just wish it would work. Things were finally good again with my mod, then it stopped working. BTW, facerips suck. I tried...I tried...--1upD 20:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay...sounds bad. Any idea what's causing the problem? I see. Unit 8311 17:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No.--1upD 20:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ay, things are bad then...maybe you could try and upload what's done of the mod without FOC working? Or perhaps you could get some computer-savvy friend or relative to help you? Unit 8311 14:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This is probably one of the worst bugs yet...Twice I was forced to start over because of syntax errors, but now I can't even enjoy vanilla! A partial release...I like that idea. However, I still wanna play FoC! I will find the answer to this...Just not quite yet, I guess.--1upD 15:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I see...I wonder which moron invented bugs. So, is a partial release doable or not? (please say yes) Well, don't we all.  Okay. By the way, I'm considering getting rid of my fanon on my Wookieepedia user page and replacing it with a link to my pages here, for various reasons. What do you think? Unit 8311 18:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Petro did. It's doable, I'll wait a while first though. Don't get your hopes up, it's gonna be an alpha. Alpha versions are NEVER released and are generally considered to buggy for pu-wait...How can I call it an alpha if I already released a beta? I think I went backwards... You should get rid of it, it's been copied over to here.--1upD 01:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn those Petro bastards... I don't care if it's an alpha or beta or zeta or whatever! I wanna play the mod! (throws tantrum) Okay, thanks for the advice. Unit 8311 12:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been working in GM a lot. Hmmm... I'm not sure when I'll upload it...I better not procrastinate on this too.--1upD 14:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see. Well, don't rush to make up your mind--if the mod's so buggy that it's unplayable, then don't bother uploading it. But don't wait too long either. By the way, I gotta warn you: tomorrow I'm going on holiday and will be coming back on the 28th, although as before I might occasionally have computer access. Unit 8311 15:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

hey
Hey unit this is Troyb,one of jack friend and I want to know if you would like to join my New CIS?TroybTalk contribs 11:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Also please avoid using curse words,we do have younger users here you know.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 12:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Regardless of your decision, 8311, I'm not adding the New CIS to my Forces of Corruption mod. Sorry. .--1upD 20:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Never mind,please talk to tyler about my new cis,Im abit busy right now.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 23:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Voting
Per the Star Wars Fanon:Voting policy, you cannot vote yet. Sorry. SV undefined

Steel Legion
Just thought I'd let you know that I think your Steel Legion article is great. SV undefined
 * Thanks. Unit 8311 08:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey dude, please vote for my New CIS either for or not for FA.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 17:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh?--1upD 19:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * That "Huh" for my comment or to unit?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 19:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why do you suddenly expect him to vote for you? He's got his own nomination.--1upD 01:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yah I know I'm just asking, I thought since he is a fan of the cis he might vote for it.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 15:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well unit please conider voting for it.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 20:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I may vote for it...provided you vote for my article. Unit 8311 20:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 20:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There, i voted for it.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 20:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I voted for yours. I must say that it's improved massively since I last read it. All the spelling/grammer errors that were plaguing it were gone, although you could still expand the history section. Unit 8311 07:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm going to work on that.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 13:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Swerto Dragonouve
Hey Its me Swerto, I was wondering if you would like to read Swerto Dragonouve and vote either way on it in the FA standings. Ofcourse its your choice which way you vote, and if you go oppose I won't think badly of you as long as you give a good reason, but any positive vote would be greatly appreciated. By the way great job on Steel Legion, loved the article.
 * Hmm...your article's okay, but a bit too long. I don't think I'll be voting for it, sorry. But thanks for the compliment on my article. Unit 8311 17:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Unit you never voted for mine, why?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Um...I did. Look through the votes again. Unit 8311 17:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry dude that was my mistake. Also what do you think of the pic on my sig?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's okay. Previous one was better, though. Unit 8311 17:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It didn't have that background, which is the only thing I don't like about that picture. Unit 8311 17:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Eh I'll keep this one.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Opinion

 * Hey unit I would like your opinion on this article:The Goblin.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 12:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Not bad, not bad...I like the way you used that picture of Harry Osbourne. Does he have a real name, by the way? Unit 8311 12:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well me and tyler liked the name the goblin, kinda a nickname. We might add a real name later but for now this is good enough. Also what about the pic?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 12:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What about the pic? Well, like I said, I like the way you recycled that screen from Spiderman 3. Unit 8311 12:27, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, if you have any ideas to fix it up leave a comment on the talk page.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 12:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You can.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 18:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Hob pic

 * Hey dude could you find me a pic of the Hob goblin, there is one at wikipedia, it's at the very bottom, it a high tech version.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 19:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Never mind.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 14:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

FA
Gnosis removed your Unit 8311 article from FA nominations. It is not a GA, which is a requirement to be nominated for FA. You would know this if you read the new policies. 17:04, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I knew that...it's just that I confused the FA with the GA. Unit 8311 17:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough.[[Image:CurrentBigThingSig.jpg|150px]] 17:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, no more than 5 good article nominations at a time. Please read the page next time. Thanks. -- Victor  ( talk ) 07:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Image Source
Please be sure to place the source template on all images you upload in the future. Thanks! - Brandon Rhea 17:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Cover
Oh...I forgot about that! I'm sorry for the delay it'll be done in about 30 minutes. And about our characters meeting--that'll be a great idea! Do you want to sign a treaty so we never fight around each other's planets or something?--Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 16:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Does the Steel Legion have a capital? Let's have a battle on the surface of the planet with you and me leading each other's troops.--Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 16:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Awesome idea! Also about your game, I need a few specifications:
 * What's the game rating? (E? T?)
 * Platform? (PS2, XBox, etc.)
 * How many Defilers on the front? (1? 2? 4,568?)

--Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 16:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Almost finished with the game. Also, can you start writing a draft of the fight at User:Unit 8311/8311-Tyler Battle or something?--Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 16:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Unit 8311 16:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay here it is:

--Darthtyler (talk) (HSM RKY) 16:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Please expand the Steel Legion's introduction paragraph to 200 words +. Once you do that, please notify me so I can update it on the main page. -- Victor  ( talk ) 08:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Source
You MUST source your images, including the one you just uploaded, or they will be deleted. Please be sure to place the source templates on the image you just uploaded and all future uploaded images IMMEDIATELY. Though it is not what we want, temporary bans will be given if this problem persists. Please leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this policy. - Brandon Rhea 19:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

New CIS

 * Hey unit, I want your opinion on New CIS, its up for GA and has had a major re-write.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 15:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not bad, actually. It's vastly improved from last time, I must say. Unit 8311 16:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Its up for GA, want to vote for it?TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 19:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Hi its me again. Well, are we gonna finish that battle...?&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 21:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright. I won't be on the computer for the next week due to increase in schoolwork.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 19:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. And ark this talk page while you're at it...&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 20:24, 30 October 2007 (UTC)