Forum:Project Cruentus/15

Further Discussion
Just housekeeping. Sorry I have been very busy and I am will just be now adding the odd bit of info and cleaning up when I can. --Arav (Ancient Grove ) (Lost Archives ) 08:42, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Y'know, something occurred to me a while back when I was still dealing with a very fussy computer. My brother was listening to Tales of the Jedi, and we began discussing the technology used in it. Then, a few times while working on Old Republic era character bios, that discussion came to mind again. And once again last night. Now, this may have been already covered, but I don't remember.

Seeing as how the Cruentus era takes place quite a ways back, should the technology reflect that? Such as not-quite-that-efficient hyperdrives, the use of sleeper ships, archaic lightsabres tethered to battery packs, etc? It would certainly be interesting and since I intend to get crackin' on more artwork (been staying at my mum's lately, no room to set up my tablet), then I'd like to know what sort of style should be used. To reflect the older era, I was thinking, perhaps some steampunk aesthetics be used? It would give the technology a very classic look and feel to it, without all the nitty-gritty pseudo-science.

Just a thought here at 3 am.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It depends, tbh. The Zayre could certainly have steampunk-clockwork aesthetics, as well as a more crystalline, kryptonian feel with their crystals, but I'm not sure about the other factions. The Sravs and Necasians basically have modern military technology on steroids, and the DTM have a raggedy, Taliban-type look that we've settled on. However, the Lost Ones could certainly have more classical looks, as I don't think the EU has gone into much detail about Rakata tech. Hope that helps. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  12:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

For anyone who is interested in the Cruentus Miniatures setlist, I've left a message on its talk page (here)
 * Mav: Cool. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As an announcement: the final battle has begun. The end for which we have toiled for so long is finally in sight. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey guys, two things have come to my attention that I can't help but point out. The first is that according to Wookieepedia, the Rakatan Civil War ended roughly 200 years before this war. Did you guys make the war start that long after the Rakatans fell on purpose so the people could evolve? Also, I noticed that while the timeline towards the top of this page lists the Skirmish at Fresia taking place in the first year of the war, but the article about the Skirmish says it took place in the second or third year of the war. Did you guys make a mistake? Sorry for bothering you guys with this, I'm just a little curious. --JediCommando (Talk) 00:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC) Just like to say thanks to all of you for involving me here, and I was really happy with the final battle of Simiyar. I'm going to pull myself off the project due to the fact that my activity is sparse at best. Please everyone feel free to use any of Simiyar's technology in any of your future articles, and expand further on the lives of the surviving members of the Simiyar Tech team including Macab. So again thank you to everyone and especially Arav and Unit for seeing my vision of Simiyar through to fruition.  N.Y.N.E. Comlink 19:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Bearing in mind that that date is an approximation, so we can just fanretcon (is that the term? It is now!) it into saying that the in-universe source for that date was a few centuries out.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fanretcon? lol, never thought I'd see the day a fanon work needed a retcon. Can't wait to see how the final battle turns out! --JediCommando (Talk) 00:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing, Nyne. You ever come back on, feel free to give us a few Simiyar people to expand on. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The final battle has now been done, storywise. But the Project is not over. Not by a long shot. We still have over 350 articles for expansion, with hundreds of characters, locations, vehicles, and weapons to expand on. We still have room for a lot of storyline on minor factions on characters. And with the promised massive Cruentus novel soon to come up, we still have a lot to play with. So don't think that the Project is over. If you want to join, we can still squeeze minor factions and characters into the war, so don't be shy. Or if you want you can help in expanding our myriad articles, or promoting them to GA or FA. We still have tons to do. There is still plenty of life in the Project left. So, to paraphrase Yoda: won the battle we have, but far from over, this Project is... Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, it's finally over? I can't believe it. Great job guys, if you need any help involving article clean-up, give me a ring.-- Nightmare 975 21:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just how long is the Project going to last? Anyways, just finished reading the article on the final battle, and I have only one thing to say: AWESOME! The part with the Sky Rink kind of reminded me of the Star Forge in KOTOR 1. Also, I just have to ask, but do you think you guys will do something similar to the Unification Wars, as a few of the characters in the Cruentusian War seem to have played a part in the Unification Wars. And if you need article clean-up, I'm willing to help  --JediCommando (Talk) 00:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nightmare: Didn't you see what I wrote? It is not over! Jedi: To quote Rocky: it ain't over 'til it's over.  Anyway, if anyone wants to add content/cleanup to our minor random articles, feel free to sign up.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  12:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant the war, not the project. Yeah, I'll probably do some clean-up here and there.-- Nightmare 975 16:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Attention! The long-promised novel series has begun. Post any ideas or characters you may want to have featured. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, does that mean I could make a stand-alone Cruentus "novel" if I wanted to? Or do you just want it kept to the trilogy (for now)? Darth Mavoc (Talk) 23:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That depends if any ideas you might have warrant their own novel. If not, I'd prefer to keep it integrated to the trilogy, which will be following several characters and storylines anyway. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  12:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have an idea. You know in WWI and WWII, people were dying of starvation and lack of supplies. Why don't we add in some minor crisis events in the war. NOTE: They are events (crisis) IN a war. I am making one now called the Tarnaskan Crisis which realy started some months before the Cruentusian War. It was about lack of food and supplies. In the second year of the crisis, which is 24,299 BBY, the CW is realy affecting trade as the DTM are giving Tarnaska a bad reputation. I will not involve the TC with the CW untill I get some support from people (mainly Tom, Unit or Mavoc), but rest are certainly welcome. Thoughts? --Arav (Ancient Grove ) (Lost Archives ) 05:07, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Certainly sounds interesting. Perhaps some of the big factions could sponsor one of the ones on that planet, just as an idea. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, guys, I have two things to say. One is I noticed that some of the battle articles aren't yet complete. Will they be completed before the novel is completed? Also, since I mod for Star Wars: Battlefront 2, I was wondering if I could make this war into a BF2 mod. If I am given permission to do this, then I should probably say since modding is hard, I'm only going to do the battles essential to the plotline. So, is it all right if I do a mod for it, or not? --JediCommando (Talk) 22:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how that would work; we don't have clones, for instance. Could you explain any further, please? --[[Image:Darth tom sig.png|100px]] (talk) (contributions) 07:45, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Something like COD 4 or Battlefield would make more sense. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * While those games probably would make more sense, you'd be amazed how much you can do in Battlefront 2. For starters, you don't have to use the default factions or anything. You can create an entirely new faction, such as a Red vs Blue mode, Vong vs Jedi, etc, and it's possible to have bullet-firing weapons in the game. So, did I explain enough, or do you need more? --JediCommando (Talk) 16:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If you were to make the factions realistically then yes, it sounds a fantastic idea. --[[Image:Darth tom sig.png|100px]] (talk) (contributions) 17:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Show us a picture, and I'll be able to make up my mind. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * A picture of the Cruentus factions, or one of the completely different factions? I can get a pic of the Red vs Blue factions if you want.--JediCommando (Talk) 18:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Cruentus. Or both, more prefrably. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can get the Red vs Blue factions up by tomorrow, but the Cruenntus factions are going to take a bit longer, so try to be patient--JediCommando (Talk) 18:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I present to you the Battlefront images. Click for full size. These images are to show what's possible in BF2. Please note none of the following maps/mods/units were made by me. I decided to throw in a few pics from KOTOR mode:



These images are just to show what's possible in BF2. Also, to get the extra era icons, which I will most likely be using if you guys let me do this, you'll have to download the Unofficial 1.3 patch, found here:|. Also, I can't emphasize enough that modding is very difficult, so I can't make things appear out of thin air, meaning the Cruentus soldiers are going to take a good amount of time to work on. Would you guys rather have me start woking on the map/battlefield first, or the sides/factions first? (I'm thinking of starting with Dagobah)--JediCommando (Talk) 15:01, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not bad, actually. And I think that the factions would be better to start on. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Per Unit. I'd be prepared for my factions to be involved with it. --[[Image:Darth tom sig.png|100px]] (talk) (contributions) 15:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright then, thanks guys. I'll have to get a mod team to help me, though, since this is pretty tough. Also, this might take a bit longer than I expect, since FileFront is closing down. But I did get my hands on an AK-47 model, which is basically the Srav KAM-28 (I think, correct me if I'm wrong). I guess I'll start on the Sravs first. --JediCommando (Talk) 16:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. You need any assistance or links to images, just ask. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:51, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Also, does this mean I'm part of the project in my own odd way? --JediCommando (Talk) 17:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. --[[Image:Darth tom sig.png|100px]] <font color="#000001">(talk) <font color="#000001">(contributions) 17:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Per DT. As you're technically contributing to it, you might as well put your name on the list above. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the team Jedi. I would also like some images when your done with Srav stuff and Tom's things. You could just go and look at each PC battle, which is listed above, and dot down some important info about and and try and find images that suit that. Just letting you know. . We realy need more images of the Zayre and partly rodian soldiers in combat. --<font color=#B22222>Arav <font color=#801818>(<font color=#013220>Ancient Grove ) <font color=#801818>(<font color=#013220>Lost Archives ) 06:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Arav. Also, guys, I should probably add that I've never made a custom side for BF2, but I'm sure I can do it very soon. I've also decided to do these battles:

-Dagobah

-Shattered Ridge

-Cul-Huq

-Kothlis

-Tahu

-Ahara

-Manvan

-Holowan

-2nd Ankarr

-Janna

-Yulinokrad

-Space Byss

-Byss (Ground)

I will admit I could add a few more battles, but I think this is good to start with. Any suggestions? --JediCommando (Talk) 17:54, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of those--specifically, Tahu, Ahara, Ankarr and Byss don't really need images--but still, I look forward to see what you come up with for the rest. Bearing in mind that new battles, both made up and from the novel, are coming up, so stay tuned. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for the heads-up. I've also noticed that alot of the weapons are based off of Halo. Coincidentally, there's an asset pck coming soon with Halo weapons, so it looks like I can use that when it comes out.--JediCommando (Talk) 18:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, guys, I know you wanted me to do the sides first, but after looking at the modding tutorials, it seems to me the map making actually seems easier to me. Now, if I were more experienced, I would definitely be working on the sides, but I want to break this down into simple steps for me. --JediCommando (Talk) 23:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)