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 * Whoa!! Vic left! Big blow to this project. But we will stand strong. I will soon expand Death's Tongue Militia because I am currently working on Ranasha. Also I will now devote my time when I am on the computer to this project compleatly.--Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (Battles I've Fought ). 06:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Arav, as an Improvement Drive for you, I would suggest making your articles longer and more detailed, to improve your work. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * So, for this project or my own articles?--Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (Battles I've Fought ). 06:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Both. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 07:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah.I will devote my time to this project! I am a Citizen of Project Cruentus, I have made this my home.--Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (Battles I've Fought ). 07:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not questioning that. I'm just saying that you should work on the detail and length of your articles, both in Project Cruentus and out of it! Like Darth Undersith could be made far more detailed. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 08:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * So Vic is gone...not too much of a problem, it's not like our manpower is at too critical a level. Troyb, have you got any ideas for your own faction? And I take it we'll start serious discussion into the story of the project at the meeting this evening? Unit 8311 14:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and Vic leaving was a heavy blow. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 15:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not a big deal, as Unit said. I personally think you three (Tom, Gnosis and Unit) have this down without anyone else. --<font color="#9F0500">Victor <font color="#0C003F">discuss 16:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I have an idea for a Criminal faction, kinda based on the black sun, but more of a corporate organization. I was thinking at first it was to be linked to most bounty hunter clans and other criminal organizations, but I dont know if it'll work in this time period. What do you think, will it work?TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 19:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Also I think I found a pretty good pic for the Cruentusian war. Here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Sf-battle.jpg   TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 19:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about a Black Sun-esque faction, Troyb, and I certainly can't imagine big corporations existing this time. However, you could make it sort of a slaving/bandit organization, which could certainly work. The image is nice, BTW. Unit 8311 20:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Remember; the rakatans just left. There'd have been no time for a large organization to be made. I quite like the image, however how would we explain the presence of the Star Forge? And I quite liked the Venator II image on the first archive of Darthtyler's talk page. (Another one of yours Troyb) [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe it doesn't have to be a organization of sorts; it could be just a bunch of bandits who get to together and start being a pain in the arse to the other factions. As for Troyb's image, I'm sure we can somehow photoshop the SF out or something. Unit 8311 21:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the bandit idea, maybe add afew bounty hunters too. But who should lead this Faction? Maybe a neimoidian.TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 21:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Also as for the pic  http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Venator_II.jpg  what could it be? An attack on the bandits headquarters? maybe a rebellion? what?TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 21:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice pic Tryob. If you guys remember when I gave you all those picture links? Well I think it is now handy too use for you guys looking for battle images and just images. There all in Archive 1. Look at them! Also I have found the perfict image for a Rodian Battle.!!! []--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 22:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Also if you guys need pic then I will find them for you. Just leave a description on my talkpage an i'll find it for you.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 22:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I dont think ill be able to make the disscussion so just list the main important issuse here or on my talkpage. Aslo please, (my request) if you could make an edit here saying Meeting starts now for me so, if I can make it, ill be there. Its becaus I am not good with time.Thanks.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 22:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Have you guys forgotten or left for some reason? No one has made an edit for 2 days. Last archive it was like 7 or more edits a day. Also why has nobody answered my question above. Anyway it is not important. What happened on AIM? The chat about this project?--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 06:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Firstly, it was the irc. Secondly, I have had a relatively busy schedule, and I don't appreciate you going on and on. The chat never took place, due to a stupid blunder I made. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I am going to leave this Project. I cant spell,cant write good articles and I am realy anoying. Its for the best. I think you all can do this project. Im just slowing you guys down. Sorry.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 06:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't be like that, Arav. We need as many people as we can for this project, and anyone who can write semi-decent articles are useful for this, and that includes you. It's not a problem if you can't spell or your articles aren't that good, because this is a community project, and we can easily fix that and help each other to achieve the best that we can. There. That's my flowery speech over. Unit 8311 12:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Arav, I used to be very like you. All you need is a bit of practice, and spelling will come easy! Please don't leave; we need people for this and, if you need any help, just ask the community, after all, it's a community project! [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you guys for real? But I know Vic left because of me. But what done is done. He can rejoin if he wants to. Also I will be more mature. I still will be a bit weird but more mature. I will rejoin. Thanks for the support.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 06:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for rejoining Arav. Anyway, let's get down to business. Seeing as tom's planned meeting didn't work out as planned, let's discuss major story matters here. We need to plan how the war starts, otherwise it'd just be a 'everyone started killing each other cuz they felt like it thing. I think the war should be started by some minor, unimportant factions that can get quickly killed off, and then the other players get drawn in. Anyone got any other ideas? Unit 8311 10:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm still not sure who's fighting who, is a bunch of bandits and bounty hunters joined together fighting or what?TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 14:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I like it Unit, however why wouldn't the big players join in originally? It's a colossal power struggle to for the empty void left by the Rakatans, but I like the small group idea. I think that it would be each group starting out small, and then the groups grow big. And, Troyb, basically it's everyone in the galaxy who wants a cut of power. Thanks for re-joining Arav. We'll also need to work out the territotires for the groups and, Troyb, you'll need to think of a name for your group. My ideas for territories is that the Necasian Military will have what will later become the core of the galaxy (Right now it's a load of junk planets) and the Zayre won't have anything; they just fled their planet and only joined the war because war is a Zayre's best friend and because they want a home. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I think that initially there should be an uneasy peace between the factions, but this peace quickly breaks down as they all start taking opportunities to bring each other down, perhaps using smaller factions as proxies to weaken one another. Remember, if it's just after the fall of the Rakata, the factions will need to consolidate before going into any conflict. As for territories, my Srav Federation will be based in the Inner Rim, roughly in the area where Cato Neimoidia is. And I also think that each faction should have their own 'theme' when it comes to their respective military technologies, if you know what I mean; e.g my faction is nuclear based, another could be based around droids and robotics, another could revolve around the Force and nature, etc, to give each faction its own feel. Unit 8311 17:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I have a name for my organization if you want to hear it. Also I'vee already figured out who the leader is. The Leader will be a Neimoidian crime lord named Hask Dofine, kinda a ancestor of the other two Dofines.TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 17:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I would like to hear the name, and I agree with the theme. The Necasian Military will be based upon brute force and simple but effective weapons like a shotgun, and the Zayre will prefer weapons such as vibroblades, or their own claws. Troyb, you'll need to create the article for your faction also. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 18:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know, if you guys use Neimoidians like Troyb is suggesting then you (and I know some of you don't care but I figured I'd point it out) will be going away from canon again. The Neimoidians had not evolved from the Duros at this point. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 19:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if Troyb really wants to keep it Neimoidian, I suppose we can sort of skirt around canon and say that this Neimoidian was the result of Rataka evolution experiments or something like that, which is a bit of a silly 'retcon' but the only real reason I can think off the top of my head for keeping it Neimoidian. Anyways, I think we should also create some smaller, insignificant factions that serve only to be proxies and to get quickly killed off, just to fill some space, if you know what I mean. Seeing as mine and Tom's factions now have military 'themes', will yours have, Troyb and Arav? Unit 8311 19:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I concur. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

1: MCYY>28 - a mining colony from a mining company called Yass Yaws Industry’s a small industry. (If you have a better name please say it MCYY stands for Mining Colony Yass Yaw.
 * Unit is right. There should be some small factions. My Death’s Tongue Militia is really a group of Rodian Bounty Hunters scavenging abandoned ships and scavenging weapons. I want my Militia to work for a faction. My faction would work for a faction, killing and sabotaging bases for pay. For small factions to get killed off here are my ideas. I am good at writing small articles. They could be the first to discover the Rakata have fled.They are mini factions . I think there should just be 4 mini factions. A small mining colony looking for a good place to mine. They can have weapons for emergencies if you have played KotOR 2 (first area.). Second could be some Zabrak explorers looking for good farming lands. They have on land battles. Third could be a large group of 110 men who are military people looking for places to test types of weapons and ships. They are so called “Power Crazy” and fight for supreme supremacy and to be the best, strongest army in there region. They see the 2 factions peacefully doing their business and attack them to get their credits and equipment. The 4th mini faction could be a small gang of 10 ships. Each can fit 5 people so 50 bounty hunters come into the sector escaping from their rivalry gang. The enter the area and find the Power Crazy group and find out that their commander and some of the crew are wanted for not paying their debts to Inga the Hut, a rich and powerful hut (like Jabba) from the Planet called Cassia Umparis. The group’s names are

2: I don’t have a name for the group, Something like Quonsette, a crew of 150 miners on a ship  called Quonsette.

3: Hsia Militia – “Power Crazy”

4: Inga’s Boys- A group of 50 bounty hunter working for Inga the Hut.

I don’t know how the other big factions come. My understanding of the war is that they have a fight for land then it slowly progresses to just being a war not for the infinite Empire but for supreme supremacy. It is 70% war and 30% fighting for the remanets of the Infinite Empire. Well that’s my understanding. Also what are they fighting for? Planets? Weapons? Ships? Knowledge? Pleas explain. Well that’s my longest point ever. There my ideas for small factions. Hope you like them. and --<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 06:01, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's very detailed, and very good work! Arav, in my eyes you have grown by an amount in maturity, and I agree with your proposal. Unit, do you fancy collaborating on a battle article, just me and you, on an article which is a battle between the NM and the SF? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd love to! I think that for the time being, we should make it a 'prototype article' if you know what I mean, that could simply lay done the basis for future battle articles, and hence may or may not count towards the continuity. Let's start planning things here. Unit 8311 19:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Good good. I'm aiming for some sort of status to this one, and here's my idea: A NM base is on a planet, and the SF land anfd try and take land for themselves. Whilst the SF are still fresh on, the NM go over, and give them a good boot up the bum, before the SF return, in greater numbers. Thus follows a large battle, in a swamplike terrain, adding to the dangers, and I'm also planning on creating some sort of carnivorous swamp plant which will add to the danger. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I have a idea that there should be a Project Cruentus Picture Listing or PCOL. Like a link on Consensus Track where we list links to images like I have before so people in the project can find them. It would have for example a link to a pitcure to a battle involving clones. I would put it under the heading Battles. If you like it ill make it my self. It would vastly improve the finding of images for their articles. Tell me what you think. If you like it I will personly make it, listing the headings and links. If that is too compicated for you guys because it might be something else, I will write a small description next to it. I think it will help this project a lot. Also this is my 501st total edit! --<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 23:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I would like to be the firsy to say, WELCOME! Also I mesaged this one Tom. See some will reply. Also I have seen you are quite the image maker. Is that right?--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 02:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Arav, that really is a good idea! But, please, don't abuse these maturity pills you seem to be taking. If you want to put a picture list like this into production, that would be great. And me an image maker? Who told you that? I barely do any home image editing. If you want someone with quality, ask Solus. He's the master. The images that you see that I edited, such as the Necasian Military logo, were done by a friend with photoshop. Sysrq868. Perhaps you've heard of him? Anyway, yeah, an image drive or whatever would be great. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 05:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * On top of that, I feel that you seem to be taking more effort, and spell checking your comments, well done! I'm noticing it! Because of this, I'd like to ask if you'd be interested in creating a battle article with me (Just you and me) Between the DTM and the Zayre? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 05:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You mean my Rodian Gang and you Zayre? Well Ok I will! Thanks for asking. Also my comment about your quite the image maker. That was for Darth Nyne. I’m sorry if I am wrong about your name. . I will tell you when I can start. I will make the image thing in the Consensus Track now. Thanks. What pills? I don’t have any Maturity pills! I don’t I swear! (Shady Eyes)!--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 06:57, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Good good. Let's start planning. My idea was that this was one of the first encounters the Zayre have with the main galaxy after being forced from their home, and it's some rocky, mountainous world. Whilst travelling through some gorge, the DTM ambush them and the Zayre are forced to retreat back to the base of the gorge, where they retreat down the mountainside and into the forest. Naively, the DTM follow, but the Zayre have an ambush planned in the forest, and the battle is forced to spill out onto the steppes of a large, rocky mountain. What were your ideas? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 07:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Done the Project Cruentus Picture Links! Can you please check if it is right and fix up some stuff if you think it needs fixing. Now to the battle. My militia cold have landed on a rock planet the Zare live on to find a wanted bounty hunter. Then the Militia are looking around trying to find civilisation. They start exploring over some places and notice a strange looking species. They see that they have many gold and precious things so they attack them. The Zare flee as you said. Then the militia wander into the forest looking for them, when suddenly they are attacked by a swarm of Zare. They fly and shoot arrows and throw spears at the militia. There are about 200 Zare and 300 Militia. Zare are too fast and too strong for the weak minded militia. They fight in hills and some in lakes. The remaining Militias hide in a small cave in a hill, the Zare are all gathered around it waiting for them to come out. The Militia stay there for 4 days hiding because they are completely outnumbered. The Militia are becoming insane and have a very powerful bomb carried by some militia before hiding in the cave. They throw the bomb out of the hole and detonate it killing the Zare and the Militia! Just like the Battle of Russan. It would wipe out my entire militia and wipe out one clan of the Zare, but the Zare will remember the Rodian species and kill them on sight because as my understanding of the Zayre is they hold big grudges. Well that’s my idea. Hope you like it.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 07:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The picture drive looks fine to me. Anyway, here's what I have wrong with your idea: The Zayre have fled their planet; the DTM can't attack it as it's undiscovered and even the Zayre don't live there any more. Whilst I quite like the other battle idea, I don't like the idea of one bomb killing everyone. It's a bit corny having everyone die all at once. I think that this bomb should cause a large avalanche and wipe out a large portion of each army, but the Zayre who survived, aka the ones not involved with the battle, and the survivors, would hold a grudge against the DTM, and the DTM would be pretty angry with them for wiping out an entire battle force. How does that sound? The Zayre survivors would then re-unite with their army (the entire Zayre population) on the other side of the planet. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 08:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Solid idea. So what are the causalities? 500 of the Military die out of 600 and 300 out of the 600 die in a Zayre clan. The Military has a total of 5000 soldiers. The Zare population could be 2 million? But wide spread.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 08:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I like, but let's have a few more Zayre die. 400 out of 600. That's what I think. Anyway, what planet will it be on, and what shall we call the battle? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 08:40, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well it can’t be Ranasha. Zion? No we need a new planet. A planet that the Zayre call their new home. Hoag's Peble? I think it should be there. The battle should be called The Battle at Nurtures Forest. Do you want to start it? I am doing the new Forum and the Mini Factions.Dont worry, ill get good pics.--<font color=Persian red>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=Silver>Contact Me ) <font color=Black>(<font color=Black>Battles I've Fought ). 09:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * New Sig!-- Undersith  [Talk] . 10:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)