User talk:Unit 8311/Archive 1

Thank you! Let's continue the discussion of the mod here.--1upD 20:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. My talk page on Wookieepedia was getting clogged up anyway. Let's start from where we left off. Like I said, I'm designing a Steel Legion insignia, but I'm useless at photoshop, so it'll take me some time. First of all, I have a few questions. Will Legion space forces also be buildable from the Harbingers position? And would it be possible to make some unique units for the Legion? And one last, slightly irrelevant question: seeing as you've obviously been around longer on this site than I have, I'd like to ask you whether fanfic-type stories are allowed, or just wiki-type articles? Unit 8311 10:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey Unit 8311. Yes, FanFic is allowed.  Just be sure to form it as a Fanon Book.
 * Nice insignia! I'll add it. UHoh...I was gonna say something else, but I gotta go...--1upD 20:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, I had some ideas for Legion-exclusive units. Shall I tell you what I have in mind? Unit 8311 12:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok... Keep in mind I can't edit the 3D model data. Even if I could, it's REALLY hard.--1upD 20:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. First up is what I'm thinking of calling the Legion Corrupter, or a Legion Elite--I haven't decided on a name (if you want, you can choose one). Don't worry, I'm not asking you to create an entirely new model for it--what I had in mind was basically a Defiler with blue or grey colours (I'm assuming you can change the colours). Now, would it be possible to give it Tyber Zann's bribery ability? Thanks. Unit 8311 06:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A blue defiler!? Oh my...I was planning on doing one anyways! LOL! They could be a bridge between 8311 and a totally different part of the CIS. I was planning on eventually adding Darth Valen, Nadenn, Eaoiss, the Taa-Fac droid collective, and of course Valen's defiler. Hmmm...How would this fit in story-wise? Would there be room story-wise for an alliance between the currently unamed defiler(and thus Juc Fac) and 8311? Then that defiler could train grey defiler minor heroes...That sounds really cool! What do you think? I can't give them the option of corrupting planets, but I can give them bribery. Do you want me to add the missle troopers? Then I can update the picture for you.--1upD 20:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not too sure about the bridge between the other stories, but yeah, I suppose it would be cool if the blue defiler would be the equalivent of a fleet commanderor or whatever and grey defilers were more regular ones. I suppose that all of them could have the bribery ability, but maybe the blue could have extra HP and attack. And yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could add the missile soldiers, thanks. Unit 8311 06:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. About the story bridge, it would seem strange if the grey defilers were unrelated to the blue, and if the blue trained the grey, why would they work for 8311? 8311 and Valen will fight on the same faction, regardless of their positions in their stories. It seems most convenient if there is some sort of story bridge. It would seem hard to implement, but really the alliance doesn't affect the Steel Legion's campaign. It does put the legion in a better position, making them stronger. Do you not like the story? (I can understand that, the flame order is a little strange) I was thinking maybe the Defiler hero should be black and the Defilers should be blue. And, you should reply to Troyb's post(though I personally think you shouldn't join him)--1upD 21:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I just noticed your page on Legion Infilitrators. I hadn't thought of giving them the ZC's steroid ability, I'll do that. Also, they are all currently Weequays in Forces of Corruption. Maybe this should be added to the page.(I think you got them mixed up with Humans, the pirate soldiers in FoC and EaW are cooler-than-normal Weequays) They seem even more elite on the page than I intended them to be...I should add a lot more HP and firepower too them. Also, (personal opinion) I'm not too sure about them being stronger than clones. But in my mod, the Rebellion will be able to send Anti-Imperial Troops against the Legion, so we'll find out.  It'll be really fun to see those black sun raids become reality in my mod.--1upD 23:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I suppose an alliance with this Valen person would contradict my bio in a small way, but then again I could find a way to cram it in somewhere, and failing that, we can always just set the mod in an alternate universe or something. Yeah, the story's looking not bad to me. As for the Defiler colour, yeah, the defiler hero should be black, and maybe the normal ones grey or dark blue. And as for the Legion Infiltrators, when you described them to me as 'elite' and 'having a ton of HP' I assumed that this made them SUP-A and so I reflected this in the page. And another thing: we need to think of a name for the Legion defilers. I was thinking of 'Legion Corrupter', giving their bribery ability, but that sounds too Tyber Zann-ish. Perhaps 'Legion Elite' or 'Legion Subjucator' would do. What do you think? And by the way, I replied to Troyb's post on his talk page, and he told me to talk to someone called Darthtyler. Unit 8311 12:46, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I was feeling that the Legion army was somewhat sparse in terms of vehicles, so I had an idea for a unit called the Legion Assault Speeder--basically a swamp speeder, but with darker colours and increased attack and HP. I was also wondering if it was possible to give the Assault Speeder the cloaking ability. Would this be doable? Thanks! Unit 8311 17:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * How would it contradict it? UGH... I don't like the alternate dimension thingy... If there's no possible way to ally them in the story, we could just say "It's not cano"-I mean, "It's not fanon!" We could say he being allied with the Taa-Fac is non-continuity. LOL, I just found out that 80 HP isn't that much-though the other troops have a lot less. I boosted their HP to 200. Now they're "SUP-A".  Shouldn't we just call them "Legion Defilers"?  I can do Swamp Speeders. Swamp speeders with Legion Infilitrators inside. I can give them cloaking, but instead of them having those wierd lines on them, they'd have to just be completely invisible, because the Swamp Speeder model doesn't have an invisibility mesh. It's so wierd how you always want the things I can do. Everyone else wants things that are hard to do! --1upD 21:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh. I think simply 'Legion Defilers' is too obvious--let's use 'Legion Elite' for the time being. And by the way, will you be able to upload any new screens soon? Oh, and I think we discussed giving the Interceptor IV to the Legion space fleet, but with missiles. Did you do that? If not, I'd appreciate it if you could (as that's what it says on the Steel Legion page anyway). And by the way, do you think any of my pages have FA potential? Unit 8311 16:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, man! Whatev. I will, right after I make the cloaking speeder. I've already got the PLX troopers in, I haven't tested them though. I haven't done that yet...Space modding isn't my favorite thing, surprising. That's why I've been so lazy about Iron Harbinger and this new Intercepter frigate. I will make it soon, but I haven't finished coding the cloaking speeders yet.(Maybe I should have done that instead of playing Jedi Academy last night ) Featured article? I think the Unit 8311 article does, your fanfic did too...did...You won't like what you find on Wookiepedia. I was right.--1upD 16:37, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen what happened. (mutters angrily under breath) I forgot to move it. I'll try and contact that guy and reason with him. Anyway, it's not the end of the world. I can easily rewrite it. Unit 8311 16:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Lots of wookiepedians are crapheads. There are lots of got ones, but(particularly admins) have begun acting really strange, and have been deleting anything they don't like. It's so freakin' stupid! How can that moron Havac dare step foot here after what he did!?--1upD 16:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The good thing is that my block isn't permenant. That's one thing to be grateful for. Oh, and I had an idea for a Legion ground hero: this guy. Unit 8311 16:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of that. The only problem is, there are no Quarren models to reskin, and no mods add them. I could reskin...Well, I really can't reskin anything to make him. I could easily add him as a Tarkin-Mon Mothma type hero, but that would seem kind've lame. *ponders how to make a Quarren*--1upD 16:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that there were Quarrens as an indigenious thing on Mon Calamari. If there aren't, I can always come up with someone else to be a Legion ground hero. Unit 8311 16:59, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, only Mon Calamari were on Mon Calamari. Remember, the Steel Legion and other CIS Remnants will be one faction, so it's not like you can't mix remnant units with Steel Legion units. Though I could put Swqaru in a vehicle, like Veers and Garm.--1upD 17:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A vehicle...yeah, that's a good idea. Perhaps he could be in a super-powered Canderous tank or something. Unit 8311 19:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A Canderous would be doable(LOL, anything already in game or in a mod would be doable) But usually you don't see generals in small tanks. Would he be a good tank driver? Also, Havac can give you your fanfic back.--1upD 23:43, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm finishing up the Legion Assualt Speeder. For the Legion Elite, I think it would be so much better to just call them defilers. Legion Defilers vs. Consortium Defilers, Blue Defilers vs. Red Defilers. It would be sweet! And, for the alliance, 8311 wouldn't necassarily have to ally himself with Valen, just Juc Fac, a fellow CIS survivor. I always pictured his troops being backed up by pirate troops. Then Valen's defiler could train the Legion Defilers.--1upD 16:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose that if you could, say, enlarge Ferd's Canderous--or change the colours, if that's not doable--and give it the firepower and HP of an AT-AT or Veers, then it'd be appropiate for him. And although I've only just started the Ferd Swqaru page, I'm planning to make him more of a brute force person, which means he'd most likely be in a tank. As for changing it from Legion Elite to Legion Defiler, I think it's somewhat unoriginal, but what the hell. And could you by the way increase the strength of the Legion Elite/Defilers, as they're supposed to be the best Legion soldiers, even better than the Infiltrators. And will this Jun Fac be a playable person in the game? Unit 8311 12:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And I'm thinking of nominating the Steel Legion page for FA. Do you think it's good enough? Unit 8311 12:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's doable. If he's a brute force person, wouldn't fight outside the thank? I know it's unoriginal, but the point of that is to make the Legion Defilers 'mirror' the Consortium defiler. It'll look a lot sweeter to see them fight each other if you know that they're essential the same thing on different sides. That would work. Of course! Yeah, originally I had Dellso planned to be the main hero, but he dies quickly and will only fit in the earlier Galactic Conquests. Maybe I should put 8311 as a SBD in the earliest GC. Or at least as HK-47. To get around an annoying bug I'd have to put that Twi'lek in Iron Harbinger...Or at least I'd have to put someone else in Iron Harbinger. For some reason I can only get units buildable at a ship's(or Ship hero's) position, not a land+space hero. Go for it, you're articles are great. If I get more modded screens it would look a lot better. This wiki recycles pictures way too much.--1upD 20:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay! I've nominated the Steel Legion article. Vote for it, will ya? And I suppose you could perhaps put Ferd in the Harbinger it you can't do 8311. And by the way, will you be able to post any new screens soon? Oh yes, and I had another idea: would it be possible for the smuggler to be a Legion unit, and would it be possible to increase the number of credits the Legion smuggler brings in? After all, the Legion is supposed to be a criminal organisation, so this would reflect that...Unit 8311 07:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok! I can do 8311 IT-0 in the Harbinger, 8311 SBD/HK-47 I can't. If I put Ferd in it, he won't be able to go on land...whatev. Screens? I will next time I test. A glitch kicked me out of the game last time...stupid autoresolve... Smugglers! The ZC should have them too... Great! Yeah, I can do that.--1upD 21:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Would it be possible to increase the amount of money brought in by the Legion smuggler to something like 800-1000 credits? And, seeing as I think we've been focusing a bit too much on the Legion army, I had an idea: give the Legion the V-wing, darken it, and give it extra attack and HP to make it sort of a Legion interceptor--equalivent of the A-wing or TIE Defender. I was also thinking whether you could give it the cloaking ability. And would it be doable to give Ferd's super-canderous the Millennium Falcons invulnerability ability? Thanks! Unit 8311 12:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Tie defenders are really strong and A-wings are really weak... I don't think so, since that's a space ability.--1upD 21:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * All right. Maybe you could give the Iron Harbinger the invulnerability ability? Unit 8311 06:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I probably can. Like I said, I don't do much space modding.--1upD 19:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. By the way, why don't you like space modding? Is it difficult? Oh, and out of curiousity, who designed those CIS Remnant units I saw in the screenshots? And I was thinking that maybe we should have the merc assault squad as the standard Legion infantry, but I was also starting to think that maybe the Legion has enough units now. What do you think? Unit 8311 10:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And are you experiancing the login/session data problem as well? Unit 8311 12:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Not exactly. Once I start editing it, it's fairly easy. Though coding in totally new capital ships can be annoying. Lots of people. The models are mainly from Keeper of Faith and Codeuser, most of the code is from me, though lots is from Z3R0X. These people aren't on my team, but they gave me permission to use the stuff from their mods. Remember, the Steel Legion is a sub-faction. They don't need an entire unit list-just some nice elite units. They are only a part of a larger faction, the confederate remnant. That's why it would make so much sense to have an alliance in the story.--1upD 20:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. It'd be nice for the Legion to have a larger unit list, but then it'd virtually be a seperate side, I guess. And by the way, will the CIS remnant and the Legion be buildable in skirmish? Unit 8311 11:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The CIS remnant is playable in skirmish. I was thinking about the Steel Legion in skirmish...How about their units be buildable from a base buildable at a outpost buildpad and from the pirate docks?--1upD 15:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a possibility...maybe the Iron Harbinger could be buildable in skirmish and the Legion units buildable from that. However, if that can't be done, I suppose the docks would have to do. And by the way, could you increase the HP and attack of non-Legion exclusive Legion space units (i.e. Z-95s, pirate fighters, Venators, etc) so that they're not just a collection of pirate units? Or have you already done that? Unit 8311 16:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Currently CIS space skirmish is VERY glitchy. I will fix that. Yes, that would be good. Should Iron Harbinger be buildable from the CIS space station, or from the pirate docks? The non-legion pirate space units currently can't even be built from the docks for the CIS. That's how glitchy CIS space is.--1upD 19:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. I think the Harbinger should be built from the space station on Tech levels 2 or 3 or something. And there's also the problem of how Legion ground units should be buildable. Unit 8311 20:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I took some nice screens, but I don't have time to upload them all. Here's one:
 * Very good . BTW, I just cropped off the annoying borders and re-uploaded it. Hope you don't mind. Could you also crop the borders for the other images? Thanks. Unit 8311 07:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mind at all. I'll upload the other images in a few minutes, do whatever you want with them.--1upD 20:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Here

--1upD 21:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)--1upD 20:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Very good! I'll definitely find a use for all those images. Thank you very much for uploading them. Maybe you could upload some space ones? And by the way, did you change the Iron Harbingers stats to make it stronger than a normal Keldabe? If not, could you make it about the same strength as Thrawn's Admonitor? Unit 8311 07:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And by the way, the picture of the Legion Defiler--the one labelled 'A Legion Defiler'--isn't coming up on any of my browsers. Unit 8311 14:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

hey
Hey unit this is Troyb,one of jack friend and I want to know if you would like to join my New CIS?TroybTalk contribs 11:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Also please avoid using curse words,we do have younger users here you know.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 12:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Regardless of your decision, 8311, I'm not adding the New CIS to my Forces of Corruption mod. Sorry. .--1upD 20:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Never mind,please talk to tyler about my new cis,Im abit busy right now.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 23:55, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Voting
Per the Star Wars Fanon:Voting policy, you cannot vote yet. Sorry. SV undefined

Steel Legion
Just thought I'd let you know that I think your Steel Legion article is great. SV undefined
 * Thanks. Unit 8311 08:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey dude, please vote for my New CIS either for or not for FA.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 17:44, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh?--1upD 19:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * That "Huh" for my comment or to unit?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 19:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why do you suddenly expect him to vote for you? He's got his own nomination.--1upD 01:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yah I know I'm just asking, I thought since he is a fan of the cis he might vote for it.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 15:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Well unit please conider voting for it.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 20:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I may vote for it...provided you vote for my article. Unit 8311 20:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 20:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * There, i voted for it.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 20:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I voted for yours. I must say that it's improved massively since I last read it. All the spelling/grammer errors that were plaguing it were gone, although you could still expand the history section. Unit 8311 07:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm going to work on that.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 13:27, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Swerto Dragonouve
Hey Its me Swerto, I was wondering if you would like to read Swerto Dragonouve and vote either way on it in the FA standings. Ofcourse its your choice which way you vote, and if you go oppose I won't think badly of you as long as you give a good reason, but any positive vote would be greatly appreciated. By the way great job on Steel Legion, loved the article.
 * Hmm...your article's okay, but a bit too long. I don't think I'll be voting for it, sorry. But thanks for the compliment on my article. Unit 8311 17:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Unit you never voted for mine, why?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Um...I did. Look through the votes again. Unit 8311 17:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry dude that was my mistake. Also what do you think of the pic on my sig?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's okay. Previous one was better, though. Unit 8311 17:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It didn't have that background, which is the only thing I don't like about that picture. Unit 8311 17:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Eh I'll keep this one.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:50, 22 May 2007 (UTC)