Star Wars Fanon:Requests for adminship


 * For active Administrators, see Star Wars Fanon:Administrators.


 * This page is used to elect sysops, people who can correct pages, delete, block harmful users, and so forth.

Please post your comments related to the election in general on the talk page.

How To Nominate

 * Find the name of the user you want to nominate, write it here along with the date
 * Place your username under support, objection, or neutral. You can also add a comment after your username. Please add the # (hash) symbol before your vote so we can order the list in a proper way.
 * You are not allowed to vote for yourself.
 * You are allowed to nominate more than one person but you can only nominate each person once.
 * See Forum:Sysop election to find out how Star Wars Fanon will select a SysOp.

Current Standings

 * These standings are determined by who has the most votes. This may, however, not be the way the winner is determined.  Also, oppositions will lower the amount of votes you have by one, as long as they're for a good reason.  Neutral does nothing.


 * 1) CurrentBigThing, Jasca Ducato (13)
 * 2) Gnosis is knowledge (10)
 * 3) Troyb (-2)

=Candidates=

CurrentBigThing, 27th May-27th June 2007
To start, I was nominated by Jack Phoenix, I did not "ask". I do wish to become an admin, because I feel this wiki is still falling apart despite the best efforts of our current admins. I will rid this place of all the garbage, and clean out other useless articles. What I have to say is harsh, yes, but do not mistake my tone for hatred toward you. I love this wiki as much as the next user, and for these reasons, I want to clean it up, so we can become more respected. I will answer questions, however I will not answer ones irrelevant to my plans on here. Do not look for an answer to questions such as, "Who is the greatest hero in Star Wars?" or "Who shot first?". They have absolutely no bearing on my ability to administer this website. If I am made an administrator, I will clean this place up. No, I don't have any previous administration experience on wiki, however, in the REAL world, where things like that matter, I am known as an honest and trustworthy man. Sometimes rookies are the best candidates, becuase they are not afraid to jump head first into new things.

Support

 * 1) I fully support CBT's adminship. He's a nice guy who's online often, always doing maintenance and other tasks. :) --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 16:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) He'll be a great admin.
 * 3) Has definitely shown his worth, as possibly the most truthful user on these boards. Will definitely make a good admin; he's already proved his worth. SV undefined
 * 4) Even though we have our share of fights I respected his veiws.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 19:20, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Maybe he won't be such a lazy admin (looks at himself and sighs) -- [[Image:JM76Sig.gif]] Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg]]
 * 6) Per Squishy Vic. Jaina Solo ( Talk ) [[Image:Jainasolosig.gif |25px]] 01:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Needed as admin.
 * 8) He has been involved in almost every major incident and has been a major roleplayer in recent events
 * 9) Dude I'm sorry.&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests HSM Wiki [[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 22:58, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Per all of the above. - Brandon Rhea 18:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) He is a great user, always helpful, may be a little harsh, but fine by me doesn't bother me. Online a lot, helps with small tasks and taking care of matters. And is even on the GA board. Yup, and per all above. Darth tader Mandalore battles  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 20:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, fine! Now you'll stop bugging me at least . Though I have reasons to oppose(as stated below) I believe that overall, he's fit to be admin.
 * 1) He is harsh if its the truth. General Grham Talk to me. NCIS Wiki [[Image:Yoda.jpg|25px]] 21:31, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Gho st I nsi de the M ach ine ''(Whisper through the Storm ) (My Journeys ) (Omens ) 20:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Not to be mean CBT, and I hope we don't become enemies or anything, I just don't believe you're ready yet. First of all, you haven't been here very long. You just started this year. Secondly, yes, I have friends, and they help me with a lot of stuff. Squishy Vic is your friend, yes, and I believe he nominated you because you and him are friends. Now, if I am nominated by Troyb or Pinky49 or somebody, yeah, you all can oppose me all you want for the same reason, okay?&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests [[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 18:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, I didn't nominate him. Pheonix did. SV undefined
 * He's still your friend.&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests [[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 18:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I didn't nominate him because we're friend. Jack nominated him because Jack believes CBT is a good user. SV undefined
 * Just leave me alone.&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests HSM Wiki [[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 18:31, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. SV undefined
 * 1) A bit too harsh for my tastes. Bub 22:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Too harsh. Chack Jadson 01:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Per voting policy:user has 10 total contribs, of which 1 is in the main article namespace. --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 13:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) I was going to add my comment to neutral but after thinking about it, it's better suited to oppose.

"Additionally, on the same subject, others claim I am too harsh. What? Don't you want an administrator who is not going to enforce things? An administrator who is going to tell it like it is?"

- cbt

Yet you haven't said you weren't harsh, infact, I'd go as far to say you were agreeing. And I concur; you are harsh. You are allways quick to attack a person who said anything bordering negativativity about you. you just jump into a conversation, turning it into an argument and fueling the fire as it were.

You also seem to think the entire point of being an admin is to enforce laws. You keep saying you'll delete this and ban him, but you're only seeing half the picture. To be an admin is also to help users and make sure they enjoy their time here aswell. If we don't "play nice" as you say, you'll drive people away from the wiki.

To me you just project an aura of negativity, maliciousness, spitefulness, ill-will and malevolence. I'm almost afraid to post this and that feeling might come across new users when they approach you as an Admin.

Admins should be nice, friendly, caring and considerate peoples, eager to help in any way. If a new user asked if you would help him, i'm afriad you would say: "Stop whining, shut up and grow up. No one helps or cares about you in the real world so why should I?" You seem a solitary person who wouldn't go out of their way for anyone, which is reason enough for an oppose vote.

Penultimately, you compare yourself (or have been compared) to Redemption. Do you honestly believe that is a good thing? You yourself said he was hated by many. Do you want to be hated as such?

Finnaly, don't we have enough admins anyway? 4 is enough and we have a fair few De Facto's. I think perhaps you would be better as De Facto for the time being, as to see whether you would be good as an admin in a few months. Another reason for this is because you have no previous admin experience. This wiki is quite large for first steps as it were.

And that, I think, is a bit better than "He's harsh".


 * Responded to on previous users talk page.

Neutral
"A bit too harsh for my tastes."

- Bub 22:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and what are your tastes? An administrator that just sits idly, and does not speak his mind concerning events happening on the wiki?
 * If I sat idly and did not speak my mind, then I would not have replied to you just now, or even voted on this page. I went inactive on SWF because spending too much time here was giving me less time to do things that I actually wanted to do, and it was also lowering my grades a bit. Regarding "maintaining order" and such, there is no way to make this place respected without driving out or banning several of the users who have contributed here. Many users here are immature and ignorant, and do not know how wikis are meant to work, sometimes suggesting ridiculous "propositions" or "governments." (I'm not going to name anybody here, but you get the point.) This also has nothing to do with vandalism. Wookieepedia is vandalized quite often, and is still respected by much of the wiki community (and Star Wars community, for that matter). Bub 22:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * "there is no way to make this place respected without driving out or banning several of the users who have contributed here."

- Bub

So how are you going to accomplish this if you don't have people who will ENFORCE things, and are tough on the users.
 * 1) I am not sure, but I kind of do agree with Bub.
 * Administrators enforce rules, not relay them. What would the world be like if the police told a drunk driver to "Just stop drinking okay?", instead of arresting them?
 * Where have you seen me do that? Bub 22:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about the general philosophy of this wiki. Play Nice, assume good faith.
 * I have to agree at least somewhat with Bub, though I will probably stay neutral. Its not as much that he's "too harsh" but rather makes personal attacks and isn't super friendly. I'm not talking about honesty, which someone should always be, I'm talking about being somewhat mean. You say you follow Redemption, right? Well Redemption might never become an admin on wookieepedia, or even UOTM for that matter, and the reason is because he has often made personal attacks. Now cbt is much milder than redemption, but he has still been awfully harsh to users. I don't think we should have an admin thats gonna be making the occasional PA on other users. And hopefully you know cbt, that this isn't because I don't like you in anyway, I actually like you very much, I'm just not sure if you'd be perfect as admin. Anyway, try and persuade me differently, I encourage you, but for now heres what I've got to say.
 * I agree with Pinky. The personal attacks are the main reason that I voted against you. Bub 23:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Personal attacks? Evidence please.
 * For example, in the section below this one. Bub 23:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So where is my ban? And Bub I thought you "quit"?
 * Did you want an answer or did you not want an answer? Bub 23:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh Wah Wah Bub. Get over it.  If people think they are gonna be babied in life, and not be insulted, then they wont get very far now will they?
 * So are you now saying that insulting people for no reason should be allowed here because people will insult each other either way? That sounds like a rather ineffective policy. Bub 23:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn;'t an insult. It was a comment.  I didnt say "So and so is a moron, don't listen to that idiot" Now did I?
 * Well you don't necessarily get banned for every PA.
 * Pinky, yes you do. Or should at least. And what CBT said below was not a PA. SV undefined

"and please no personal attacks."

- Vic

Apparently it was getting pretty close to being one. Also, what about Jango? He made several PAs before being banned. And Fourdot never got banned either.
 * But the point is he [CBT] didn't make one, and Pinky 4dot did get banned. SV undefined

"An administrator that just sits idly, and does not speak his mind concerning events happening on the wiki?"
 * But if you hadn't stepped in it very well may have become one. Anyway, ok so I was wrong about that, but he wasn't banned until a while after his PAs and what about redemption? His block log is clean.
 * Oh trust me, had I been an admin then, I would've blocked him immediately. As well as some others who made PAs (not saying who though). SV undefined
 * Well even during your reign as admin there have been users who weren't immediately banned for PAs. Also, heres another one:

- cbt

Sounds a lot like a PA to me, and even though he didn't actually call Bub out by name, he pretty much implied that he was referring to Bub. I commented on Bubs page, then HE posted it here. Then HE replied back. He said he quit Tyler, if he quit why did HE keep responding?
 * I dont consider my time as an admin a reign. How could you even say that? You say it as if I'm trying to be the president of the wiki, even though I'm not and all I'm trying to do is help out the wiki. And yeah, I was lenient and gave Jango a chance, however he didnt comply and was banned. Anymore examples of users who got away with PAs? Raul made a PA, and I banned him too. And CBT's quote isnt a PA; he is telling the truth. Bub has been inactive and he's even admitted that he's "quit" the wiki. SV undefined
 * Well if Bub has admitted that he quitted the wiki then why did CBT comment on it?&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests HSM Wiki 23:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Either way, no PA that I can see. Please look up what a PA is. SV undefined


 * Ok, "reign" is just the word I used, I'm sorry if you felt I was portraying you as "president of the wiki." "does not speak his mind concerning events happening on the wiki" Bub never said that. Ok, and if you don't want to call cbts comments "personal attacks" I'll call them insults, which they are. The world isn't a perfect place and people shouldn't be "babied around," but an admin of the wiki shouldn't be going around insulting people.
 * Okay, well then lets have a military that doesn't carry guns. Authority figures that dont tell it like it is are not worthy to be in power.


 * Ok, insulting and punishing are two entirely different things.
 * The truth hurts.


 * Yes, but IMO an admin shouldn't be mean to other users, especially new ones. However, I am not going to oppose your adminship anyway, so it won't really matter, I'm simply stating my opinion.
 * Opinion noted. Do not fear change, embrace it.

Comments
Tyler is just angry because I completely crushed his little clan uprising he and his friends thought they were starting.
 * What?&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests [[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 18:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Enough; this won't turn into an argument on this page. Take it to the talk pages, and please no personal attacks. SV undefined Welp he doesn't mind speaking his mind and he won't pacify things for anyone.He has my vote.


 * Inquiry:Why isn't this meatbag an admin yet?

He does what is on his sig. He says it to people's faces. I would probobly support, but I haven't been a user for a month. General Grham Talk to me. NCIS Wiki 21:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions
-- Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library The following questions have been asked by Squishy Vic. SV undefined
 * If you became a admin what would you do?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 19:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Eliminate the garbage from this wiki, such as articles that have improvement templates on them that haven't been edited in over 2 months. Also, I would delete articles with no information (AKA onlyinfobox).  The list really goes on Troy.
 * How would you improve the community by your Adminship?
 * Remove the worthless articles, and basically clean up. This wiki is in desperate need of cleanup.
 * What would you change about this site (one thing) as Admin?
 * Change the policies on articles. I beleive we are too lenient with some of them.  (I won't reveal my plan, as I don't want any other admin taking credit for it.  You'll just have to trust me.)
 * Will you promote IRC meets as Admin?
 * I will do my best in promoting any community events.
 * A vandal vandalizes an article by blanking the page and replacing it with "poop". How long do they deserve to be banned?


 * One Day, but perhaps a warning would be better.
 * A user tries to nominate an FA article, even though the article hasn't been a good article yet (which is now a requirement). You remove the nomination, but he is persistent and refuses to listen to you, and continues to nominate the article. How should he be punished (or not)?

(A warning at first, then a minor ban.)
 * Inform him of the policies regarding articles and request that he bring it to the GA forum. Add that if he continues to defy the administrators he will be punished.


 * A user creates an account and begins to write some articles. He then gets vandalized; in retaliation, the user vandalizes the vandals pages back. How do you handle the situation?


 * Inform the vandalized user that two wrongs don't make a right, and the vandal that if he continues his vandalism he will be dealt with accordingly.

Have you had previous admin experience? Pinky49 Talk
 * Not on the web. But I oversaw my confirmation class, organizing us and keeping us on track.  (This next part may help) - When I was in school, if the teachers had to step out, I was the one they placed in charge, if no other authority figure was available.

Question.Say the President of The United States or some aother major leader like that had an account on SWFanon.Would you expect him to be a good writer?If not would you think he is unfit for the leader position because he isn't a good writer?
 * A person's writing/typing skills should have no bearing on their abilities to make fair descisions.
 * Thanks for answering my question.

Support

 * 1) Very good user and should've been an admin a while ago.
 * 2) Per above. SV undefined
 * Yes, you're ready.&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests [[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 18:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Nice user.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 19:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Still?! -- [[Image:JM76Sig.gif]] Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg]] 21:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) In retrospect, I'm curious as to why he wasn't nominated last time. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 21:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) \o/ --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 21:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Heck yes. -Darth Fury
 * 6) Per all of the above. - Brandon Rhea 18:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Bub 22:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) If he can't be one on Wookieepedia, he should definitely be one here! Chack Jadson 01:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Per voting policy:user has 10 total contribs, of which 1 is in the main article namespace. --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 13:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) He has created helpful articles that relate to SWF, regarding the GA page he started, and is less active but is very helpful and useful, he will make a great Admin. Darth tader Mandalore battles  MPTG [[Image:MandalorianKOTOR.jpg|15px]] 20:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Per above. Inspiring articles, active member. [[Image:XEPE.JPG|150px]] Say it like it is... Or it was. 23:47, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) FULL SUPPORT-He wrote this junk (just kidding, LOL!). Good and strict leader. Godfather of this wiki. Best writer. Has good visions. Also because he is my son. "''Darth Abeonis, my lord, I am your pappy." -Strasbourg. LOL! ROFL! LMAO!

Neutral/Comments

 * Doesn't appear to have been on a lot lately.
 * Just noticed I've been nominated lol, but that's OK. As for not being on lately, I'm currently doing real-life exams to help me get into Uni, and so i'm focused on them for a while, but that shouldn't be much longer. 11:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Questions
-- Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library
 * If a tree fell in a empty forest would it make a sound?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 19:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That all depends on whether it was a large tree, or a small tree. 11:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Large tree.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 17:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * How would you improve the community by your Adminship?
 * What would you change about this site (one thing) as Admin?
 * Will you promote IRC meets as Admin?
 * I would strive to limit the number of vandal created articles being created, and to identify which articles are the main focuses of vandals and protect them as needed.
 * I would make sure people both here, and on other wikis, don't see SWF as a fan-club.
 * Yes, I will. 11:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Have you had any previous admin experience? Pinky49 Talk
 * I am an admin on the LOTR wikia, but I have since been unable to contriubute there. 11:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I shall ask a question to my worthy opponent. Mr. Ducato, where do you stand on my(CurrentBigThing) views for cleaning up the wiki?
 * For the most part, I agree. I have already said that I would be strict when it comes to deleting pointless articles; but, that doesn't mean I will delete them if the have potential. I would take all aspects of the article into consideration. Who created it, what is their record on situations like this etc.
 * Appreciated Mr. Ducato, last question from me, what are your thoughts on This.
 * You have a point there. Alhtough, Redemption has been consistenly banned not because he voiced his opinion, but because of his constant use of foul-language, personal insults and be-littering of fellow editors.
 * Actually. I was only banned once because of that. Check your sources next time. - 04:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Twice, because you tried argueing with me.
 * Actually you started a Redemption hate thread and so I had to defend myself. There is a difference between defending myself and just being a bastard. I just happen to do them the same way. - 13:36, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't remember it being a hate thread, I just remember me telling the admins over at Wookieepedia that you were being a foul-mouthed prat. I can't be asked to carry this on, so I wouldn't bother replying.

Support

 * 1) Helps the community out a lot and should've been an admin a while ago.
 * 2) Indeed; per above. SV undefined
 * 3) Though before he had a very much deletionist attitude (not so much now), he has proven himself a very helpful user around this community. -- [[Image:JM76Sig.gif]] Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg]]
 * 4) Rar. --Jack Phoenix (Contact) 21:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Per above. - Brandon Rhea 18:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Good kid. General Eisenhower (General me 00:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) I'll definately vote for Gnosis, very responsable. [[Image:Swerto sig.jpg]]talk to the Swerto
 * 8) I don't know why I put neutral. Darth tader Mandalore battles 07:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) YEAH!
 * 10) Dang, hes not an admin yet? I support!

Neutral/Comments

 * I'll stay Nuetral.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 19:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Bub 22:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Staying neutral.&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests HSM Wiki 23:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Questions
-- Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library
 * How would you improve the community by your Adminship?
 * What would you change about this site (one thing) as Admin?
 * Will you promote IRC meets as Admin?

Have you had any previous admin experience? Pinky49 Talk 'The following questions have been asked by Squishy Vic. Please respond right below each question.' SV undefined
 * How would you improve the community by your Adminship?
 * I would block vandals, delete worthless articles (specifically only infobox articles, our main problem these days), and protect pages in need of protection.
 * What would you change about this site (one thing) as Admin?
 * I would change the fact that our database is full of worthless articles. I would clean some of them up, or delete them.
 * Will you promote IRC meets as admin?
 * Of course. Anything that helps this community I will promote.
 * Not really, besides the infamous "Star Wars Fanon Base" (aka 313). But I have been on here for over a year.
 * 1) How much time should an article have before being deleted? For example, say a user creates an article with only an infobox, then gets off for the night. How long should you, as an admin, wait until you delete that article?
 * An article should have several hours before it is deleted.
 * 1) If a user had an offensive userbox, that was very much like a personal attack, on his userpage, would you remove it and warn him or let the userbox be?
 * The userbox would be removed, and the user would be warned.
 * 1) Do you believe Star Wars Fanon should have a standard of quality; for example, should articles that appear to be vandalism (but have been stated as that not being the intention of the article) be put up for deletion?
 * Yes. SWF needs a standard of quality. Articles that look like vandalism will be deleted.
 * 1) How many warnings would you give a user before blocking him, if he were to vandalize articles continuously by adding the madeby template with his own name to articles he did not make?
 * I would warn him 3 times, and than block him for a few days.

Troyb, 27th May–27th June 2007

 * Well first off I'm flaterd to be nominated, I guess I should tell you why I should be voted. I help out in the community and I know I'm trustwoarthy. Too me a admin should show the best interest of the community and be fair and not tolerate vandals. I also have admin experience, I'm a admin over at HSM wiki and an active user at other wiki's also. I know many of you will vote oppose and with good reason, and I understand that, and I know I'm not the best speller but I'm a kind user who work's hard in the community and has been a friend to almost every user here. I know I wont get voted, but if I do I will be a kind and show the interests of the community. Also I would delete most of the junk here and help out user's article if I see flaws.

Support

 * 1) Troyb has created some great pages in fanon. Also, he participates in the community just like an admin should do. -User:SoloLegacy
 * Per Voting policy, you cannot vote at all. SV undefined


 * 1) TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 21:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You can't vote for yourself. Read the rules next time. SV undefined

Oppose

 * No, not yet. You don't do enough for the wiki. SV undefined
 * No, definately not. I don't think you've been here long enough to become an admin, you're much too defensive, you're stubborn and I just don't see you doing enough to help SW Fanon. - Brandon Rhea 23:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Per above.