Forum:Project Cruentus/7

Further Disscusion

 * I will edit the Battle of Bothiwui very soon. Then I will make the Mini Faction Articles. They will be made soon. I am I am in a exam week so Study Study Study Arav! I may look dumb here but I'm pritty smart in School.--  Arav the Undersith ( Talk Page ). 05:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I too have exams, which is why I'm busy, and I never claimed you were dumb here or in life. Anyway, Nyne, great ideas, but I like Units edits. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, I just had an idea: for the second or third year of the war, maybe we could introduce trademark superweapons for each of the major factions, who try to tip the balance of the war in their favour with them. Some ideas: for the Sravs, a mega continent-destroying nuke or a radiation bomb; the Necs, a giant artillery platform that, when placed on a planet, can fire devastating projectiles at any point on that planet and into space; the Zayre, a giant crystal that boosts the power of all Zayre in the vicinity to mary sue very high levels; and for the Death's Tongue, a dirty bomb, as I'm imagining them as being the underhand faction. Any opinions or thoughts? EDIT: The Cul-Huq battle needs just to be spell-checked, and we can then nom it for GA, methinks. Unit 8311 16:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had an idea for a Zayre 'worship' crystal, but not  asuperweapon. I'll now spell check the article, and you have until I'm finished to convinve me that these superweapons won't be Mary Sue weapons. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, a 'mary sue weapon', in my book, would be an absolutely unstoppable super-ultra-mega universe-ravaging thing that can't be stopped. These weapons, although potent, are limited in use--the Srav super-nuke can be easily set off by the enemy and would destroy its own users; the Nec gun thing could easily be disabled by taking out whatever's powering it, and the Zayre crystal could easily be shattered like glass by a tank shell, and with the exception of the nuke they're little more than battle support devices rather than straight-forward doomsday devices. Bear in mind that those ideas I posted are just ideas; if we do go ahead with my superweapon idea, the final ones could be totally different. Unit 8311 17:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll now get around to spell checking the article, and checking it meets standards. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 18:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The proposal has been made. Anyway, I'm clocking off for tonight. Brandon's been really kind enoug to distribute CUSWFN. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys, I just wanted to tell you that the picture of the mercenaries is awesome. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)   (Complain here) 19:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit I like the change of ideas, I'd like to work up the article for Macab and the Srav's treaty, and introduce the Capital Ship that is part of that Treaty, I'll let you name the Prototype, and would like the ship itself to survive the war and be a one of a kind across the Galaxy for a couple of years. Plus it makes sense for Macab to be off planet during an assault that he set up, rather than just coincidentally being off planet, it's very much more star warsy for it to be a set up and "appear" to survive that just to be lucky.  N.Y.N.E. Comlink[[Image:sithempire2.png|30px]] 20:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh. I like that idea. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 05:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Why me? Why do I have a dirty Bomb? I want my DTM to create the Thought Bomb. That will kick all of you precious faction's asses! A group of Rodian Scientists could create it.--  Arav the Undersith ( Talk Page ) 06:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah, no thought bombs. In fact, carrying on from the dirty bomb idea, why doesn't the DTM harness the power of Eborax, which we have kinda forgotten about? It could buy thousands of cheap missiles and load them all with eborax warheads, causing pwnage on a massive scale. It's that or you can have an itching powder bomb that makes all enemy soldiers scratch uncontrollably and drop their guns, which would also pwn. Marab, I like that idea, but I think that the Sravs could only use that ship on a limited scale, and it falls into the hands of mercs. As for a prototype name, 'Ochyen' sounds good if it's named by the Sravs, and the StarOx if it's Simiyar-named. Meanwhile, do you think we're going ahead with my superweapon idea, tom? Unit 8311 11:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Arav, grow the hell up! We're not trying to make you look an idiot by doing this! The DTM are a dirty faction, and so use dirty weapons! They (and no one else) have the intelligence for the thought bomb, and no Unit, the DTM ar too dirty and not smart enough to use a disease warhead. They're an unorganized rabble of bounty hunters. However, I think that we should use that for one of the factions, one of the intelligence based ones. Any ideas? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you guys go a little easy on Arav? I'm not trying to take any sides here, but still. Anyway, a disease warhead could qualify as a dirty weapon, and maybe the DTM could steal them or kidnap scientists from one of the other factions. However, maybe the Necs could use disease weaponry, but only on a limited scale--e.g. eborax loaded missiles fired from tanks that can clear out a building. Going on from that, I had another idea for a Nec superweapon: a giant ultrasonic bomb that projects high-frequency sound waves in front of it. You prefer that or the giant artillery idea? Unit 8311 16:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I prefer that idea. And if someone is acting immature, or wrongly, I will point that out. If he doesn't want us on his back, he should take what we've said into mind, and change. Same goes for anyone. Arav's not, I believe, an immature person, however he sometimes acts immaturely. I like him, and I think he has potentisal, however if he irons these creases out, he can be so much better. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I think we should still carry out my artillery idea, save downgrade it from a superweapon to a more standard artillery platform. Anyway, I have two things I want to know: should I create the superweapons (as stubs) or should we plan a bit more, and when should we have them introduced in terms of the war timeline? Year two or year three? Speaking of which, we should start planning year two now. Do you think we should start with the Necasian civil war or the DTM gaining power? Unit 8311 16:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we should plan some more, and then introduce them later on. And I think you misunderstand about the civil war; that will be at the end of the war, as that will be the eventual collapse of the NM. There will be a small battle between Redharn and Jarns splinter group, but the actual civil war will be at the end. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I have some names: for the Srav mega-nuke, the Tsarka bomb (guess where I got that from); the Necasian sonic thing, the Shatterer Device; the artillery platform, the Fist of Havez; for the dirty bomb/disease bomb/whatever, the BlackSeed bomb; and for the Zayre crystal, you can think of a name. I think they should be introduced at about mid-to-late year three, although maybe prototypes and development will occur in late year two. Okay, maybe at the very end some of the most loyal Nec troops could stay around for the final battle, which we've got to have because we can't have such an epic war ending without a bang. Unit 8311 17:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I started off Tsarka bomb. If you want I can start the other superweapons as well. Have you got any ideas for the Zayre crystal name, BTW? Anyway, let's start planning year two. I think the early part should focus on the DTM gaining recruits from planets affected adversely by the Srav/Necasian conflict, and stealing tech from companies like Simiyar and the big factions, and raiding both the Necs and the Sravs and doing stuff like car-bombing various targets. Any thoughts? Unit 8311 17:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be working on a name, but I have to go now. And I like the idea of the DTM doing that, as they would then emerege as a real faction in year 3, and rthe war could develop into a three faction struggle, before the big bust up in year 4. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I took the liberty of creating Shatterer device, which you can now add content for. I tried to create the artillery article, but for some retarded reason the image I want doesn't upload. Meanwhile, I found some images that could be great, especially for the Necs: . I think that the DTM should come out into its own in year 2, harming the other factions, but it doesn't really become more than a nuisance until year 3, when it starts to become a real heavyweight. Thoughts? Unit 8311 18:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I concur. Those images are really quite fantastic, and will do great for battle articles! [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I also have another battle idea, to establish the DTM as a thorn in the side of the other factons. There's a large mining base, mining ores and the like, which the Necs feel they can profit from, and Askar feels that, after arresting Redharn, can be used to up his reputation, whilst the Nec High Command votes upon a new head. I think that the Sravs would, obviously, oppose, and the DTM would fight in the battle and cause losses, giving the impression that, very soon, they will be a faction not to be trifled with. I think that the Necs should win this battle, as they haven't won one for some time and this would also assert that Invado isn't someone to mess around with. This would also provide an opportunity for another meeting between Jarn and Vergulva. Your opinion? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like that idea. Maybe initially the Sravs and the Necs could hold up in a town near the mining base and occupy two halves in it, but they consolidate and try to outmanouevre each other instead of fighting. Then, the DTM starts attacking both with suicide bombers and Simiyar light vehicles. The Necs will eventually drive the Sravs off, but due to their losses they're a bit overstretched on the planet, and the DTM uses this to siphon off materials for their own purposes. You like? Unit 8311 20:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like. I see you're making the changes to the Cul-Huq battle, so I'll leave you to it,. I'm off for tonight. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. When you're back, I have a question: I'm looking for a good picture of Yuiln, out of this, or  (the last one's Dovchenko from Indy 4, in case you were wondering) Unit 8311 20:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the second one. I'm no fan of cartoons unless they're really good. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL. I was being sarcastic. Like why do I get a dirty bomb? Why? Why. If you prefer I’ll add "Jokes aside". This happens to me all the time. I make a joke which everyone should just smile and gets back to work, when I get attacked. Don't worry about it guys. I find it quite funny when it happens. Over to my DTM, you guys are geniuses. Unit fantastic idea about the eborax. So are we going to end the war after four years? So after like 40 more battles we just go on to making smugglers and fixing up stuff. But anyway "jokes aside"!! The eborax bomb is perfect. My DTM are currently in a war with the Bothian species. I like units idea about my side just being a thorn when in the 4th year suddenly come out of the blue with a massive army finally become a major faction like the NM and the Srav's. I will make the mini factions later after I make my Battle of Bothiwui. But guys!!!! Where is Ranasha? The best article we had at the beginning? We need to incorporate it into the war! But anyway nice idea Tom and Unit. I would become more active very soon. I only get on when I finish school. That’s for 1hr and 20 mins. On weekends I am an actor and can speak in many accents like Jamacan, Irish, American, English (cockney and upper class), Indian and a bit of the stereotypical Aussie voice! In 3 weeks it will be the holidays and Ill is active in the night as most users here are American. Unit and Tom I don’t know what time it is in England when it is early afternoon here in Australia? Anyway, after exams I have to practice on my parts for a big play. It’s a Sherlock homes play. The Beryl Coronet!--Arav (talk ) 06:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay Arav, what accents you can do and what you're doing at school is kinda off-topic, but anyway. Tom, thanks for the image reply, and now we can start thinking about the next battle. I say we set on . Also, I got a name for the Zayre cyrstal: the Tretaak Crystal. You like, or do you have something else in mind? Also, the Zayre history section needs updating. Unit 8311 10:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit: I thought the next battle would be at the mine? And, no offence, but I hate the name. Like I said, I'm working on one. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Mine? Well, there can be a mine on Raxus Prime, can there not? Well, I did literally think the name off the top of the head, so no surprise. However, after careful and prolonged pondering, I have come up with a brilliant name: The Great Big Glowy Crystal Thingy. Brilliant, no? Unit 8311 16:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair 'nuff. And, for the crystal: How the hell didn't I think of that?! Brilliant! I'll go think up a real name now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right. I took the liberty of creating FireWing-class interceptor, just to give the DTM and mercs some chance when it comes to airpower. Do you think we can start on the Raxus Prime battle (as a stub at least) or should we plan a bit more? Unit 8311 17:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I say we start and use some more planning as we go along. I've also lined up some badass pictures from the brilliant selection you've found! Shall I do the honors for once? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 18:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course. But don't use all the pictures at once; with such a good source, we need to save some later. I've also got some images prepared for this battle. Meanwhile (and this is kinda adressed to Arav, but you can voice your opinion too tom) I've got some picture ideas for some DTM units, which will be introduced later on:,  (this one looks like the pic I used for the Srav Drakuv, so we can say that the DTM adapted the design) , . Unit 8311 19:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll getta round to it now. I like the first two images, hate number 11, and I love number 12. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I've started the article, but I'll finish it tomorrow, so please don't edit it until then. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. Mind if I upload an image and fill in the rest of the infobox? Unit 8311 20:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I'm not trying to appear over-protective, it's just if you tweak it afterwards, then there'll be less chance of contradicting ourselves, or screwing it up, so I hope you understand. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand. The only real plot content I added was the notion of a battle on the desert above the surface; at this era, I think the surface of Raxus will still be desert rather than the junkyard landscape it is by Republic times. I also kinda reintroduced the Toronian tank; it's the Necasian MBT, so it's gotta play a part. Unit 8311 20:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Unit I've created the Treaty of Sviat, to outline the Treaty between the Srav Forces and Simiyar Tech, check it out and touch it up where you see fit, I also need to find a pic of either a document itself, or of Jasef and Macab together.  N.Y.N.E. Comlink[[Image:sithempire2.png|30px]] 02:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks unit. I personly like the first two pics. I would also like to have a treaty signed with simiyar tech and the DTM so the Simiyar would supply the DTM with its ships. Also could somebody also create a treaty with the Obi Mauls faction with mine. His faction supplyeis my faction with units. The treaty shold be signed by Sabsa Junn, the DTM leader after Gan Gan who died in the battle of the shattered ridge. Would some one like to create Sabsa Junn for me? He is he Leader of the DTm after the death of Gan Gan. It would be much appreciated! Also guess what??? xams finish tommorow so ill be Active again! --[[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 06:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No. If you want treaties with these factions, ask their leaders. Say: Nyne, may I have troops?' Or: 'Joe, may I have mercenaries?'. I for one am not going to do something when you can do it yourself. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Shall we continue with the Raxus Prime battle, tom? I can do stuff like add quotes if you've already got content planned. EDIT: Why the hell is the text blue? This clearly has something to do with Arav's sig. If I were you Arav, I'd change back to your earlier, simple sig that was HTML-friendly. Unit 8311 16:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. And you may add loads now. Arav: How many times have I changed my sig here? Twice. Please stop continuously changing yours. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, Raxus is almost done, all it needs is quotes, and I'll make that your job tom. At the rate we're making battles, finishing this war before the end of the year is a very realistic notion. Unit 8311 17:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. And who the hell said we needed a year for this?! [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I remember someone at the start of the project saying that this'd take a year. Oh, and Nyne I edited the treaty article. Unit 8311 17:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... well, I should hope not. Anyway, what shall we have as the in-universe explanation for the word Cruentus? We never decided. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * IIRC, our ideas were that 'Cruentus' should mean 'void' or 'slave' in Rataka, as it's being fought by slaves over the void left by the Rataka. As 'Project Slave' doesn't really sound right, I say we go with the void idea, and that about the middle stages of the war people began to use the word as the name for it, and that up til then it was simply 'The War'. Unit 8311 17:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'll add that to the article now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good. We can now start thinking about the next few battles, which IMO should forget about the Necs and the Sravs and focus on the DTM as they go around being a pain in the arse to everyone and gaining power. The early-war skirmishes are kinda overdue and need thinking about, we can leave that to our slave hard-working Arav. What do you think? BTW, I'm getting sick of this annoying blue text. Can someone who's HTML-savvy fix it? Unit 8311 17:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No idea how. And I agree with your previous comment. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 18:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I think that in the next battle, the DTM, spurred on by their actions at Raxus, should take out a minor warlord in control of one planet and steal his money and hardware, or attack one of the big factions' outposts and steal stuff like blueprints and material. Which do you think is better? Unit 8311 18:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we should do both, starting with the first. Anyway, I'm off for tonight. Arav, please read back on all the posts and change your sig. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So sorry about that sig. I have changed it back to normal. Also I think I have fixed that signature above that turned the writing blue. Anyway about the Ideas for the DTM love it and love it. I say we do both the ideas. Also I wan my DTM to be a pain in the ass for all factions in the 2nd year which I believe we are currently in. Hip Hip Hooray for our first GA nomination! Bo-yah! I am currently writing The Battle of Bothiwui. Also as this is a bit off topic but could you guys see the Talk page of CUSWFN for me? I have an idea. Those mini factions will be done soon. Also I have been thinking about the new Era Icon. I think Trak should make it as she is the best image maker in this project. I don’t want to use that spiky thing. The icon should be made from a project member for the project. Bo-yah!Also can sombody please make  the previous disscussion a archive. Thanks.--[[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 06:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Right. I say the next battle takes place on a generic desert world that we make up, and the DTM uses stealth, deceit and underhand tactics to weaken the warlord's forces before moving in for the kill. Until the late stages of the war, they're basically going to be the sneaky faction as opposed to the brute force of the Necs and the Sravs. I have some names for said planet: Alasad, Elmanuk, and Djirn. Also, Arav, do you mind if I edit the Bothawui article? I'm not going to do anything major, just stuff like images, quotes, infobox adjustment, etc. Unit 8311 09:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please!--[[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 09:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There. Unit 8311 09:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like Alasad.--[[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk)  11:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can someone archive this disscussion and the previous one. Also Tom and myself are starting a battle between my DTM and his Nec and Zayre alliance. It would be set on a water world called Selonia. Tom and I like that one the best out of a selection. It would be the last battle of the Nec and Zayre alliance. Are you guys ok with that.--[[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 11:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. If it's on a water world, I have plenty of ideas for aquatic units for both factions. Also, shall I go ahead with Skirmish on Alasad (Cruentusian War) that can take place right before the Selonia battle? I was also thinking of a water battle between the Sravs and the Necs, so maybe the Sravs can attack the planet straight afterwards to take advantage of the Nec's weaknesses, or attack one of the planet's moons which are also watery. Opinions? Unit 8311 13:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like, but I think we should have it after the Selonia battle, as the Necs will win that and, if they don't win this battle, it wouldn't make sense Askar being made head after the Selonia battle. If we do it after, we an then have a draw or a loss for the Necs, in addition to a possible victory. Agreed? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstand me. The Alasad battle won't involve the Necs or any of the big powers; it'll be just some DTM guys vs a random warlord in charge of a planet. Meanwhile, shall I go ahead with some Nec aquatic vehicles (which will be hydrofoils and futuristic speedboats and things of this nature) for you; the DTM, I believe, should modify their existing vehicles for water use rather than have their own as they're still a ragtag bunch of mercs at this stage, and whereas the Necs are a superpower compared to them they'll have equipment for all situations, whereas the DTM working with what it's got will make more sense than pulling equipment out of its arse. Thoughts? Unit 8311 17:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * None, bar those of agreement. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, Swordfish-class attack hydrofoil is made, and I'll create the Alasad battle now. Here is an image for your Selonia battle too. Unit 8311 19:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Alasad skirmish is done. Feedback? Unit 8311 20:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look tomorrow. I'm off now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 20:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)