Star Wars Fanon:Requests for adminship/Archive/Darth tom

The following is an archive of Darth tom's requests for adminship.

Support

 * 1) He's a great user. Dispite being here for a relatively short time, he has accoplished much. He has restarted and led CUSWFN (I can't wait until the next issue). He has also led Project Cruentus, which appears to be going very well. These acts have demonstrated Tom's leadership skills and his ability to work well with others, both of which are needed for the administrator's job. He has also helped many users and corrected their mistakes. He'll make a great administrator. -- Michaeldsuarez [[Image:Sabersmilygreend.jpg|20px]] ( Activate Holocron ) 18:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Full Vote Per Mich. Tom is more active than Gnosis. He usually greets and helps a user when they first come here (When he is logged in). I think Tom is a very questionative guy, and I think that is what we need, another active questionative admin who just pushes a few extra buttons. (Thanks to Jack for that line ). [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 23:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I give my support to Tom, what he lacks in longevity he makes up for in his attention to detail, and when it comes down to it officially, we need an administrator that pays attention to the details more than anything else.  N.Y.N.E. Comlink[[Image:sithempire2.png|30px]] 02:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) I support tom because he really helps the users and improves the community.I am sure that he will do good work if he,finally,be elected.spartan-53 aka Darth odysseas 07:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) *Vote void per the voting policy. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 08:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Sorry Tom. I think that Michaeldsuarez and Gnosis is knowledge are the best contenders. Sorry. [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 23:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *That's fine. There's no need to apologize for your views. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) ** [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 06:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Not ready – While I won't support Gnosis based on his spurts of inactivity, I won't support tom because he still doesn't grasp which and when articles should be deleted. Tom has done a lot, but that doesn't make him ready for adminship, and I'd rather see these positions (which are essentially replacing myself and my friend JM76) filled by more experienced (which does matter, definitely) and inclusionist users (good examples: Michaeldsuarez and Gnosis). Besides, tom is a bit too forceful with new users and is too defensive, seemingly taking things too personal when it's not (and can never be) personal. The forceful stuff reminds me of my old self, which is not a good thing. --Victor (talk) 04:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Whilst I respect your points, I do believe I've given up my forceful ways; have I done this recently? No. And what do you mean by personal? I will defend my right to something I believe I'm being unfairly accused of, or something like that, but what do you mean? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 07:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but like you said about Michaeldsuarez's activity level, I need more assurance you won't be so forceful. It wasn't that long ago that your were forceful, and it wasn't just one incident. I saw it many times, displaying ignorance about the rules, and if you are an administrator, you need to know the rules. Some of our current administrators don't even respect the rules all the time which have been set, and even I didn't follow those rules sometimes (such as deleting categoryless stuff right away, etc.) You can't just say one day, "k, i done guys bein mean" and expect everyone to fall under you. I still need more assurance. Also, you also still need to learn proper categorization, in terms of creating them. When I took a look at them (contributions) earlier today, I saw that you created a bunch of redlink categories for users. That's good, but you should always make sure you're doing it right and guiding others to do the same, such as with Category:Medical Droids‎ (where droids shouldn't be capitalized) or with Category:Third Republic Capital Ships, which is all caps and shouldn't be. These are just examples that you simply created the category to fill in a red link, rather than taking it upon yourself to first fix the category name to either a more proper category or to at least proper grammar, and then creating it. You have to take the initiative and correct these things, otherwise SWF will go back to having a bunch of messed up and/or redundant categories. As for the personal thing, I just mean that you seem to take it to heart when I oppose you, when it's not personal, and rather I just believe you need more experience, and that there are better options right now. In example: like you say you're being unfairly accused, when it's not unfair, since you had a line of unfair warnings and threats of deletion against others. It's fact and can be found on various pages. Both Michael and Gnosis have been friendly and helpful to all users (both new and old), something I (at first) didn't like from Gnosis but can now appreciate more. Therefore, I have opposed your nomination; however, other than that, it's great that you're starting to help out more recently around the community, and it's always good to see positive progression. --Victor (talk) 07:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I understand. And the 'unfairly accused' thing had no relevance here; I wasn't saying I was being unfairly accused here, I was saying if I was I would defend. And I don't believe I take it personally; I hold nothing against you for opposing me, and I don't believe you are against me just because you oppose my RfA. However, your view is your view, and you're fully entitled to it. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 11:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, then my bad (about the accused thing). Of course you can defend yourself from being falsely accused, but I thought that was what you were alluding too when you said that (that I was falsely accusing you). Anyway, that's what I meant by that. --Victor (talk) 19:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, my bad; should have made it clear. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 20:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No my bad! - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom) (Record) 20:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) --Victor  <font color="#AA00">(talk) 21:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) After long debate with Tom, I will vote as neutral. Also I vote neutral because I can't decide between Tom and Gnosis. [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] <font color="Green">Arav  (<font color="Green" size="1">talk ) 07:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

 * 1) I'm not entirely sure yet. I haven't seen him do anything really above and beyond what's required of him, other than initially deciding to take on CUSWFN which has been mentioned. When I say that, it's more in terms of once he was in that position and as a High Priest, or just a regular member. I know he's cleaning up LOTR Fanon, so I'd have to take a look at what he's doing there. One of the other reasons I'm not quite sure yet is the way I've seen him deal with some users. He's been incredibly forceful with threatening to have articles deleted and the like, and the problem I have with that is that he wasn't really in a position to be threatening to have articles deleted. To sum up, this is not an oppose, but it's not yet a support. Can I change my opinion? Sure, I just need to think, see LOTR Fanon and hear from Tom. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 19:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, to quote the default page that appears on Name of Wiki: Administrators before it is edited, it reads: 'Ideally an admin shouldn't be considered "in charge".' Therefore, adminstrators aren't to be considered in charge and I did have perfect right to do so. However, have I not stopped on it since the actual incidence? At the risk of sounding impertinent, administrators aren't 'in charge', and so I had every right to warn these users. It also says: 'The ideal admin is just someone who is trusted to have a few extra buttons and to use them for the benefit of the Wikia community.' It doesn't state someone who's allowed to warn users unlike other users, and I defend anyones write to do so, and to warn a user that it will be deleted, and that it's in everyones right to put a deletion template on the page. 'The ideal admin is just someone who is trusted to have a few extra buttons'; we don't have these buttons and so we are completely allowed to use templates instead of buttons, thus pretty much doing what the administrators can do. However, the 'power' of the administrators isn't negated by this as the administrators have the dele button, and so have the final say. I believe that what I did wasn't wrong and, anyway, I haven't done so since then. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 20:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My qualm had more to do with the overly-forceful tone you used in going about it. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 20:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that I do accept, and I believe I've changed that since then. I've done a lot of greets/asking to categorize since then, and I don't believe I've been overly forceful since. Is one incident too much to be forgiven for? I don't believe so, and I don't believe the community do; NKSCF is an admin, despite once making a PA. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 20:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And a stupid, petty one at that. [[Image:NKsig.png|70px]] Jesus Freak NK says NK's 'mazin' articles [[Image:sabersmilygreend.jpg]] 11:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I remember that, lol. --<font color="#9F05">Victor <font color="#AA00">(talk) 07:57, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) I am confused. Tom has proven to be a good user, but I want an active veteran user to become an admin.  Wing   msg 21:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Whilst that's a perfectly good view, I don't think it's entirely necessary. I think it should be the best man for the job, regardless of how long they've been there. Be it Gnosis, Michael or I is for the community to decide. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 21:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, as far as best man for the job, it should be Gnosis.  Wing   msg 21:10, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you feel that then vote for him by all means, as you have done. May I point out, however, that we need two admins, to all others here, and so you may vote twice. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 21:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) I was right Tom....I was right. You could be a admin! Sorry, but I have to oppose this. [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] <font color="Green">Arav (<font color="Green" size="1">talk ) 23:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Questions

 * 1) If elected administrator, will you consistently attend to the articles for immediate deletion (and images for immediate deletion if necessary), broken redirects, and double redirects at least on a bi-daily basis? &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 05:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No. I will not do it on a bi-daily basis. I will refer to them on a daily basis. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 08:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Even better. You had me going there for a second, I thought you were going to say something like "No, I will not do it on a bi-daily basis. Maybe once a week." &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 03:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, you've seen how active I am; just how lazy would I have to be not to do it daily? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)