Forum:Project Cruentus/9

Further Discussion
It is never too late to join Xwing! Welcome aboard! Arav (talk ) 05:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, Arav, there is, but I feel we can squeeze in one more faction; it's getting a but crowded. Wing, we can work on continuity and fitting you in now; we managed with Mavoc. Unit: I'm not going to update the Zayre until the war is over. I have high hopes for that article, and I don't want to botch it up. I'll finish Selonia tonight. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose we can cram in one more faction, but it'll have to be a minor one that probably won't have much impact on the war. Anyway, tom, when you've got a moment, I have an idea for an upcoming battle: seeing as a few months have passed since Cul-Huq by now, Redharn's execution ceremony is going underway at the Necasian capital. However, Ironwings is having none of this, and takes a team of Zayre to get him out of there. There are two possible outcomes: they rescue Redharn, but he gets wounded and dies shortly after; or during the skirmish Askar finds Redharn and kills him personally, and then the Zayre get driven away. Now faced with two powerful enemies, both of whom are very pissed at them, the Zayre have two options: make peace and risk losing their honour, or fight on and risk destruction. Thoughts? Unit 8311 10:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Are there any other minor factions I can look at and see how I need to set mine up?  Wing   msg 15:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Before you do anything, your faction needs a feel, something that seperates it from the others. Let me generate some ideas for you...Duros...Neimoidian...chinese stereotype...kung fu...maybe your faction could be a clan of ninja-esque warriors. We do have some minor factions, but they're a bit rudimentary; so far, the most developed faction article is Srav Federation. I would set it out like an organization article if I were you. Bear in mind that we've got some technology restrictions in this era, so no lasers (apart from as countermeasures), etc. Does that help? Unit 8311 15:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does. Any yeah, I was thinking of forming a Duros Clan, as no one else has done such a thing. Thank you for the help.  Wing   msg 15:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit: I had no plans for Redharn to die, any particular reasons why you feel he should? And, if Wing wishes to, I have no problems with another major faction, although this would be the last. My aspies means four sounds a nice number to me. Opinion? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 16:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly what kind of weapons and ships are we using in this era?  Wing   msg 16:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * More sort of basic ones. Weapons more advanced than our own, yet less so than even the KOTOR era and, as for ships, basic ones as used by those in wars today (albeit a bit better), ones of which you can find in the list of articles above (The DarkBird is one). An example of a vehicle would be a tank, or a Krako Warrior Traverser. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 16:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I feel we have enough major factions; we have currently three major players, and towards the end we'll have about five or maybe even six. Maybe we can make it a medium-ish faction. Wasn't Redharn destined to die? Oh well, in that case the Zayre can successfully escape with him, and he can help lead them against Invado or something. As to wing's question, what tom said: most vehicles are simply slightly more high-tech versions of real-life vehicles; e.g. the Stinger-class assault buggy, the Drapeznik-class assault gunship, etc, are good examples. Unit 8311 17:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit, is the big factions a bad thing? If we do it well, and work hard, this can be fantastic. I'm all for big, if Wing wants. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 18:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, let's just sit back and let wing make his faction before we can judge anything. Meanwhile, what do you think of my Zayre-Redharn rescue idea? Unit 8311 18:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it, but it should be Ironwings herself to rescue her, and Wing has created his faction; Clan Dobo. I'm all for, as I said, it being major if he wants it to be. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 18:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. If you mean that just Ironwings has to rescue him on her own, I'm not sure; she'd need at least some backup, especially as she's in the Necasian capital. As for Wing's faction, I see he's made it another merc faction--maybe it could threaten the Savi Alliance, but let's see what he has in mind. Meanwhile, could you finish off Selonia? Unit 8311 18:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I doubt I'll be able to tomight, probably tomorrow. I have another week (after this) of hard work, and then I'm on holiday, when I'll be far more free. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 18:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. BTW, what's happened with Wing and his faction? Unit 8311 10:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Technically it’s not a clan until its page is created. So technically his clan does not exist until he makes the article. I’m sorry I have not been active here for quite some time. I am drowning in scripts and I have my performance tomorrow. [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 06:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep it on topic. And the page is created, here. Anyways, I'm going to do Selonia now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 07:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You sure, tom? From where I'm sitting, Wing's faction is just a redlink, and it appears to have been deleted for some reason. Anyway, while you're doing Selonia, make sure you incorporate the Necasian aquatic units I made, so that all that unbelievably hard work of mine doesn't go to waste? Unit 8311 10:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Unit is right, it is just a redlink. It was deleted by Brandon because of authors request. Tom: Thanks [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 22:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyway, seeing as we can't really add much to Kopalnia until Mav comes on, I have two things to say: tom, I can start the Zayre-redharn-rescue skirmish as a stub, but I need to know one thing: will Redharn bite the dust, or will he live to fight another day? Also, I have an idea for a battle to happen after that. Make that two, in fact. For the first one, I've noticed that in virtually every single Nec-Srav battle, the Necs have been the attackers, so I was thinking that the Sravs attack a Nec base on, starting another naval battle. Askar commands the battle, but due to his low numbers he has to hold out until Renard Curl and his squadron turn up and kick some Srav ass, beating them back. This could also introduce the NHD-52577 artillery platform, which I finally got round to creating. For the second one, I was thinking that the DTM launches a terror attack on a dam or something in the second-most important Necasian city. Thoughts? Unit 8311 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to mention that I was going away for a few days. I'll get onto adding info for the Lost Ones on the Battle of Kopalnia. Let me know if the information messes with continuity. Darth mavoc 11:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Add as much as you want, Mav. If if messes with anything, then me or tom will fix it. By the way, how s the minatures thing going on? Unit 8311 14:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The miniatures? Fine, but progress is slow. I've been unfortunately preoccupied with the miniatures (actual one) that is coming out soon. But, I've also been preoccupied with an idea for Cruentus' greater story. So, I was hoping that everyone involved with the Lost Ones, the Hand of Darkness, the Zayre, the Necassians and the Srav, if possible I'd prefer to discuss this idea over IRC (just for the sake of ease), or if not I'll discuss through this forum.
 * All right. If it helps here are some images that I think sum up the feel of each side: for the Necasians, for the Sravs, and for the DTM. But that is just a suggestion. Anyway, I'd prefer it if we discussed this idea via the forum, considering my current prediciment. Meanwhile, tom, do I have a green light to make the two battles I suggested? Unit 8311 11:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yar. I now have one hell of a lot of time on my hands for the next two weeks and, Arav, Selonia needs your input and I'll be doing stuff. Unit, anything that needs my attention? Oh, and I'd be happy to upload those images for you. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 11:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Great. I'll be starting Skirmish in Ilatas (Cruentusian War) and Battle of Kothlis (Cruentusian War) in a moment, as well as posting the images I need. Unit 8311 11:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * M'kay. Anything that needs my attention? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 11:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Kopalnai could do with some expansion, and add some quotes to Kyros. Also, I need this, this, and this, thanks. Unit 8311 12:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * M'kay, but I'll need their proper sources. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 12:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * For the first and the last, just put the website links. For the middle, put Tiberium Wars. Unit 8311 12:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Links please? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 12:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Use the links I gave you. Also, I had an idea for a new Necasian unit, to be introduced after Kotlhis: a hovercopter to rival the Srav Drapeznik, which will be less heavily armed but will be able to transport troops and hardware. Image suggestions: this, this, this. I have to go now, BTW. Unit 8311 12:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm here. I need a answer to this vital question: will Redharn live, or die? And what do you think of my Nec hovercopter idea? Also, coud you upload the images I requested? If you need better sources, put redalert3.com for the first and frontlineswar.com for the last. Unit 8311 12:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a question, has the year where the Eborax virus hit the Rakatans been determined? Darth mavoc 12:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think so, but I'd say two years maybe before the war. BTW, do we have any worthwhile pictures of the minatures thing, or is it still in the early stages? Unit 8311 12:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, unfortunately nothing solid yet. I'm thinking about using some of the sapres I have, but I fear I might screw them up - I don't have many spare miniatures. But hey, I might give it a shot this weekend. Keep an ear out. ALso, as for the date of the Eborax infection, shouldn't it be more like the same year as or a few months before the war? On the article it says that the war happened 'shortly' after it. Darth mavoc 12:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, it'd be more realistic for it to be a matter of years, otherwise it'd be a case of a whole empire collapsing monents after a few of its constituents contract a virus. Maybe about eight months at the minimum. Unit 8311 12:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Now all that needs to be determined is when the war actually starts. If I recall there's only about 12 months in a Star Wars year, so if the war began around the last 4 months (which doesn't seem likely), it'll be around 24,300 BBY. If I recall that page doesn't exist, so I'll create as soon as I'm done with Ravyr. Unless of course you think we should wait for Tom's and Arav's input. Darth mavoc 12:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, it has. 24,299 BBY. Canon never gives a specific date for the collapse of the infinite empire, instead providing only approximations, so it makes sense. Unit 8311 12:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, Unit, I'm going to hammer into those articles this afternoon but, due to your predicament, I doubt you'll be here to see it. I'm going out now, but will be back soon. Also guys, we have our first GA for the Project, which has now been nominated for FA as well! [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 12:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A random thing: remember way back when I suggested the idea of themes for the factions? Well, out of boredom I went and found some tunes which I believe suited each faction. Here is what I came up with: Necasians:, Sravs: (from 2:54 onwards), the Zayre: , the DTM:  or . Thoughts? Also, to tom, one question: will Redharn bite the dust or will he (puts on Madonna voice) die another daaay? Unit 8311 20:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the first three, but not the DTM ones. I've bulked up the Battle of Cul-Huq by a lot, and it now has very large BtS and Legacy sections. Meanwhile, Unit, are you finished with Ilatas so that I may add to it? Oh, and Redharn should live. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 16:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Right. Anyway, just to clarify, the battles on from Kothlis are going like this: Zayre trouble on Anakarr with Savis, DTM harassing Necs and the Sravs, Necs and Sravs attacking a DTM decoy base, and then the big Lost ONes battle. That okay? Also, I can create two new vehicles: the Rapier combat bike for the DTM, and the Airhammer-class battle hovercopter for the Necs, but for the second one tom can choose the image from the following: this, this, this. Thoughts? Oh, and Ilatas is all yours. Unit 8311 10:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats perfict Unit. Sorry guys, I have been caught up on the Banjo-Kazooie Wiki. I don't like any of the DTM songs and with the battles, I am ok with it. I will add to selonia soon. I think I have lost the passion to write! I just have to spend some time reading the battles to get some help. I will be back and active soon. . We need a new article for improvement. I think the Battle of Cul-Huq (Cruentusian War) should be this weeks one to get it up to FA status if that is no problem with Tom and Unit. [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 10:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Arav, it is FA status, according to three DL's, so please think about these things before saying them. Also, please think about this: this isn't a free edit article, it's mine and Units, thank you. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 13:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)