Star Wars Fanon:FanonProject/Project Cruentus

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Project Aims

 * 1) Our goal is to create a minimum of three Featured articles, showing the large amount of effort we would like to see put into the project.
 * 2) Create an extensive new and intriguing era.
 * 3) Build a good relationship between users.
 * 4) Most importantly, enjoy ourselves!

Please do join this project, for it will improve the wiki as a whole, and should be a lot of fun!

List of Participants

 * Darth tom (Project/discussion leader)
 * Unit 8311
 * Arav the Undersith
 * Trak Nar
 * Darth Nyne
 * Darth mavoc
 * Darth Storm
 * Jedi Vilxi
 * Mecenarylord-Semi-resigned for now. Plans to be back.
 * JediCommando
 * Ty294
 * Dsutcliffe
 * Antonstaen
 * Floprince

Factions and their leaders

 * Death's Tongue Militia-Arav the Undersith
 * Lost Ones-Darth mavoc
 * Necasian Military-Darth tom
 * Srav Federation-Unit 8311
 * Zayre-Darth tom
 * Savi Alliance
 * Simiyar Tech-Darth Nyne
 * United Coalition of Worlds-Darth Mavoc/Unit 8311
 * Taung Confederacy-Darth Storm
 * Menunadexu-Jedi Vilxi
 * Sinyan Imperium-Ty294
 * Kantelian Empire-Floprince

Articles
If you create an article for this project, please add to the article!

Discussion
I've archived the previous discussion due to it becoming too long. A project member stated that it was causing his computer to crash, which means it was too long. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 21:56, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, so I left a comment on Ty's talk page in response to his question, and was about to leave another one on Unit's just when Brandon archived the page. Anyways, Unit, my creativity skill is unfortunately not that high, but I would like to help on some of the articles that are need in expanding, though. ---Ping(JediCommando) 22:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Skill is subjective. Anyway, you could still create a character or a group of them for one of the factions, with ideas from me if you can't generate any, but I can provide you a few articles that could do with some expansion. Don't put yourself down too much.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:28, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * The two articles I'd say need expansion the most would be the ones on Redharn and Ironwings, those articles are way to short for such major characters. And that looks good Unit, you can start the prelude and early movements as I'm not to good at those. BTW Ping, if you want to create something you can make up some local species for Karccev and Axra Prime, peferably non-/semi-sentient. Karccev is a snowy planet while Axra is a desert. Ty294  {Talk}  01:37, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I think expanding those would be up to Darth tom, unless he's kind enough to give permission. And sure thing. Jedi, if you're willing to make those articles Ty suggested, I can provide potential images/ideas if need be. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:05, September 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * For Karccev, I'm thinking of having a type of bird as a non-sentient species, but I don't know of anything past that. For Axra Prime, I was thinking of having snakes that look sort of like Chinese dragons, though I'm still trying to think of a good size for them, and whether they should be non- or semi-sentient. ---Ping(JediCommando) 16:05, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's a pic that could be used for either. Has both repitlian and avian features. Both could be more or less human sized, and maybe their tech could be bronze age, medieavel, or even WW1. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:15, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * That would work for Axra Prime but Karccev is to cold for a reptile. Anyways, while I haven't had any thoughts for the space skirmish, I did have a thought for an interesting scenerio. Now I don't know if you'll go along with this but here it is anyway: For starters, Jarn becomes leader of the Necasians after the Battle of Byss and some of their officers, Makakson in particular, are jailed for war crimes, but Makakson is an Invado loyalist and hates Jarn. So here's my idea, right after Byss, Makakson, Stimmlur and a small band of Invado loyalists attempt to escape their eventual punishment by holing up in a space station or base or something. A group of UCW commandos, lead by Jarn and Joe Tylars (who although is not a commando is out for revenge on Stimmlur), go in and capture the rouge Necs and bring them in for trail. Whaddya think? (This would almost be a thing I'd have to do with tom since it's mostly his characters) Ty294  {Talk}  16:35, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * So in that case, maybe we could just swap the species worlds around. Anyway, that's an interesting idea, but I'm not very sure. Give me some time to mull it over. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:50, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a very good picture. For the tech, why don't we make it bronze age. ---Ping(JediCommando) 19:55, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. Maybe they could have some cheap bolt action weapons sold to them by traders or something as well. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:58, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
 * Bolt-action would be good, but I was thinking more of black powder weapons. Then again, the bolt-action would probably be the better choice. I mean, how many times have you seen a black-powder weapon in Star Wars? ---Ping(JediCommando) 14:57, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Bear in mind that this set tens of millennia before any depicted canon, and that species cut off from the galaxy should develop tech independently. But yeah, I think bolt-action is better. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:10, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyway, would you like some name suggestions? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:36, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, been busy lately. Weekdays are not good days to contact me, with school and a big homework load lately. Anyways, I was thinking, for a species name, we could say that they could be distantly related to the Fosh, as that picture reminds me alot of Vergere. ---Ping(JediCommando) 22:11, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's actually a neat idea. If you need any concrete name suggestions, here are some ideas I'm throwing out: Kalaveri, Tresecu, Naj'kle, and Hurel. Need more, or have you got some of your own? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:23, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Coming up with names is a weakness I have. I'd go with either Kalaveri or Hurel, though I'm leaning towards Hurel. ---Ping(JediCommando) 23:43, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, personally I'd prefer Kalaveri, unless of course you've already decided. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:30, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kalaveri is fine by me. Should we get in depth about their culture, or just touch upon it? ---Ping(JediCommando) 21:30, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Middle ground would be best--too much detail isn't necessary unless you want it to be an FA. I was thinking a hierachal system--tribes fight, and the defeated tribe must remain subserviant to the victorious one, which can gain more respect as it 'gathers' more tribes. Eventually, with the arrival of more advanced offworlders, they could become subserviant to them, or perhaps some could resist under the direction of the big tribes. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:34, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Uhm.. Hi. Don't want to disturb you or anything, but.. I just joined, having decided that I needed something to do, and I was wondering.. How to start? Antonstaen 16:07, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the project. Anyway, there's plenty for you to do. If you want, you can choose minor articles that need expanding and expand them, provided you of course announce which one first. Alternately, if you want to add to the actual universe here, it would be best for you to create your own character, or group of characters, or even a sub-faction, like an infantry regiment belonging to one of the factions. If you're bereft of ideas, then don't worry, as I'll have lots to share with you.  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:51, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the warm welcome. So.. What's your stance on changing canon facts (Or developing popular theories about galactic history)? Antonstaen (Talk) 12:33, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, considering the time there's really virtually no canon for us to change. As for galactic history, we have sorta elaborated on the formation of the Republic a bit. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  13:56, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about altering the origin of a certain species, in a way that makes an fairly old theory relating to the Rakata make sense. Would that be ok? Antonstaen (Talk) 14:16, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you elaborate? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:00, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Unit, sorry I was inactive for so long. I was thinking, the article on Srav Federation says that it's "Semi-Socialist" but it seems to be more of a radical communist government. What I was wondering is: should we create official idealogies to be the Star Wars versions of Communism and Nazism? Ty294  {Talk}  21:53, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why? We can just have 'socialism' and 'fascism', both of which, I think, have been mentioned somewhere in canon. That keeps it simple. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:56, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess. Although the Nacasians seem to be more like Nazis and the Nazis were a combination or Fascism and Socialist. I guess that's kinda my point as it is alot deeper then just Socialist and Fascism but I suppose you're right that it would get way to complex for someone who isn't into political history. Ty294  {Talk}  22:44, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * The Necasians appear to be closer to the Roman Empire, I think, which to be fair did influence the fascist movements of the 20th century. And yeah; besides, what would we call these made-up idealogies? 'Sravism'? 'Necasianism'? ;) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:50, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * Forget it, it's not really that important anyway. Back to what we were doing, I'm thinking when I finish the Sinyan Civil War and we finish any other things we're doing, we could maybe start talking about that pirate project I suggested earlier? Or would you rather just stay with the Cruentusian era? Ty294  {Talk}  23:05, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Anyway, the asteroid belt skirmish is done. I was thinking that maybe the next Taung-Sinyan skirmish could be a Taung raid on a shipyard constructing the Velum battleship, with the Sinyans having to hold them off until the battleship is built and delivers a can of whoop-ass, or maybe a fairly major defence outpost of some kind. Should we use that admiral I created or the captain? And would you like to do a bit of this or should I? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:08, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well maybe it could be a large raid on Sinya itself as sorta an advance force for an invasion, but the Sinyans are able to bring in the Velum to stop the attack. I think Raulay Weggins should be the one to command the battle since he's the main admiral in the SDF navy. And I thought that guy you made was an army officer? And yah I'll be involved somewhat but I've kinda run low on new ideas for Cruentus. BTW, do you think it's a good idea to try to add colors to all the Cruentus-article infoboxes? I've already got colors for Imperium characters if you haven't noticed. Ty294  {Talk}  18:54, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Reading stuff can help you generate new ideas. ;) And that guy sounds good. Should I find a pic for him? As for colors, there isn't any reason why not, but I haven't got time to do it right now. In any case, perhaps the shipyard(s) could be above Sinya, or perhaps it could be attacking Sinya's moon? (in which case we'll have to adjust the Sinya article infobox accordingly). Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:00, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I may be able to find a pic for Weggins. And I think it could be that they're attacking the planet defenses so that their invasion force suffers fewer losses, but there can be shipyards involved in the battle to. Ty294  {Talk}  20:43, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, yes. I think this could be a short distance from Sinya, like about where the orbital path of a moon would be. Would this be 'Raid near Sinya', 'Skirmish near Sinya', or what? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:33, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, depends on how big we're making it. If it's a bigger battle that involves alot of space then I'd prolly say "Battle above Sinya", if it's smaller then probably "Skirmish above Sinya II" or "Skirmish near Sinya". Ty294  {Talk}  22:03, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * It'd be a medium-sized battle. Perhaps Raid would be the best term. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:12, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, should we have it included landings on the moon (assuming we have it near a moon) concurrent with the space baattle? That way you could call it "Raid on Sinya II" or whatever the moons name will be. BTW, I added an image to Weggins. Ty294  {Talk}  23:37, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I suppose we could. As I said, we'd have to adjust the Sinya article, as the infobox states that it has no moons. ;) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:32, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you think would be a good name for the moon? I've got "Kuuna", "Sinya II" or "Satelliten". You have any suggestions? Ty294  {Talk}  16:48, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kuuna or Sinya II sound good to me. Sinya II out of those two sounds a bit more logical, though if you want variety my suggestions are Lugand and Neras. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I'll go with Kuuna since I really don't want to call it "Sinya II". Ty294  {Talk}  18:21, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. Should I start the article when I'm able to? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:48, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can start the battle sure. Ty294  {Talk}  19:52, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll start it in a sec. Oh, and we now have reached the 500 article milestone. Yay! Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:05, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * There. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:25, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, what do you think of creating a campaign article/template regarding the Taung incursion into the Sinya system? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:00, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, sure, but probably after we finish this skirmish. Ty294  {Talk}  21:26, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. By the way, I thought this image could be used for the main Sinya-Taung battle or one of the others. I like to imagine Taung/Mando stuff as looking quite clunky and bolted-together, so that could be used for an image of their advance. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:07, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a good pic but I'm not sure what planet we'd put it on. Karccev and Axra have little population and Karccev looks nothing like the pic anyway. Mu Nae has a number of pics already but it could work there. Otherwise Kuuna will be the only other land battle during the campaign. Ty294  {Talk}  14:03, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, perhaps it could be the main pic for Mu Nae. Do the Sinyans have any major cities besides the ones we've had that could be fitting for this? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:47, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean on Mu Nae right? I think it would fit as a city located somewhere near the equator. Ty294  {Talk}  16:59, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant in general. But if you don't think it'd suit any of the other battles then Mu Nae is the place for it. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:30, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya, I think that's the only planet that it would fit. Edit: If you don't mind, I will need to create at least one Srav character for my short story. They'll only be low-ranking soldiers. Ty294  {Talk}  00:59, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll upload it, if that's fine. And sure thing. But I guess I can still alter some of the names if need be, okay? ;) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  14:38, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Deal. BTW, what do you think I should call it? I'm thinking something in the like of "Beyond the Call of Duty" or "Against all Odds". Something that captures the hopeless situation and bravery that the Sinyans have to show in the face of certain death...  Ty294  {Talk}  16:21, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Against All Odds' sounds good. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  17:23, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok so were you planning on using that image I had originally suggested for Khaz? Otherwise I'll just use it. Ty294  {Talk}  00:04, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Took the liberty of changing the Srav sergeant name to something a bit more exotic. ;) Anyway, I guess you can use the image if you want. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  13:09, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * In any case, if you're uncertain about any names, just ask. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:12, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I might need a few more names for Sravs as I may involve a few more that I originally anticipated. I might still reuse the last name "Spaalov" but I'd need a good first name to go with it. Ty294  {Talk}  15:20, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Spalev' might sound better, IMO. As for first names, here are some suggestions: Ilyushin, Kubrik, Leon. If you need more or others, just ask. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:26, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I've kinda added a subplot to the story as I've added a terrorist group that works in Reshlund to story. Do you think it's a good idea or not really nessisary? Ty294  {Talk}  18:54, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * It certainly sounds interesting, provided it's handled well. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:59, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * "Handled well" as in the way I write the story or as in how the Sravs handle it? Ty294  {Talk}  19:05, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * How you write it. Though obviously the Sravs won't kindly to it either. ;) Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  20:20, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I need a name for a Srav intelligence officer... and what is the Srav's intelligence organization anyway? Ty294  {Talk}  01:29, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Name suggestion: Kas Grimlokin. As for the other one, just plain 'Srav Intelligence' may do, or you can have the Srav characters call it the 'Intelligence Bureau'. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:20, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, if you ever need pics for named Srav grunts, here's something I found. If you want, just ask and I'll crop the image so that you can have whichever face you want there. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  21:02, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm afraid I'm abandoning the project. I only have about 1,600 words (the contest requires 5,000) and don't think I'm gonna be able to finish it before the deadline. Besides that, the writing quality is terrible. So I don't think I'm gonna continue or at least not now. Maybe in the far future I'll decide to try again but not now. Ty294  {Talk}  16:38, October 22, 2009 (UTC)