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Will You Make The Wiki Awards Annual?
Well hello Sannse. As you may have heard I will be hosting the First Wiki Awards on Saturday June 24th on my talk page starting at 7PM Pacific, 6PM Mountain, 5PM Central, 4PM Eastern Time Zones. The awards is to simply honor and congradulate those users who have written excellent and outstanding articles. Also to honor excellent users with good spirit and imagination. I heard from a few that this could possibly become a annual event so I decided to at least give it a try and ask you can you please make the Wiki Awards the Annual Wiki Awards, Im sure it would please the entire SW Fanon Wiki community. So you may get back to me on that. Thank you. - Darth Vacatour


 * It can become ananual event without any input from me :) just hold it as you like. It sounds like a nice community idea -- sannse (talk) 20:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandals!
Please block Pig Penis, Lord Terence, and Jack O Russell. They're vandalizing. - Bub

Never mind, someone else blocked them. - Bub

Thank You! Again! Ewoksfist 23:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Darth Mavoc's Apology?
I was looking at Darth Vacatour's talk page and saw someone's IP address. I didn't know who it was, so I asked and through guessing I found out who it was: Darth Mavoc. This link can better explain it than I can: []


 * Splarka is dealing with this. -- sannse (talk) 12:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Prop 4
Can you look at this? Bub 12:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Well yes sansee but with all the vandalizm and stuff i think we could try and use it to stop vandals. If you say so i will disaporve of the prop immediatly. But 11 users to 0 voted on Prop 4 which states we need at least 5 admiistrators by friday becuase things are just out of hand. bobby found the haven and now has declared total war against us. - DV


 * Angela is the head of the community team, and she is deciding when and who to give admins rights to for this wiki. If you want to push this forward, it's her you need to speak to -- sannse (talk) 21:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Please delete Project Equal and The Return of The Dick, they're pointless pages. Bub 23:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've deleted one, there seems to be argument over whether the other should be deleted or not. Decide this between you first, then I'll delete (or not as agreed) -- sannse (talk) 06:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

There is a new vandal, General Troll. Bub 19:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, got it -- sannse (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Sansee the dont feed the trolls thing unfortunately is a dissapointment. Were deleting sacred documents like the vandal wars! We dont have to do this. So what if we give them attention honestly swfanon seems to loss. We have no admins! Unless Angela puts up the admins on friday after Prop 4 is passed then we need to do something. Honewstly at my wiki the haven i dont care much for your dont feed the trolls act. And The Wiki Alliance from the haven plans to unite every wiki and user to stop ISV by force. Besides they wanted a war! They got one! - DV


 * These are not pages that you need. They are just helping to turn a childish bit of vandalism into a pretent battle.  They are certainly not "sacred", and they are not part of the purpose of this wiki which is to write Star Wars Fanon.  I also have to ask, what difference do you think admins will make?  What do you think they will do that is not currently being done by staff?  Of course the staff don't want to have to make so many visits to this wiki forever, but for now it's not a problem, we can keep coming in and clearing up any silly vandal edits. -- sannse (talk) 19:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Every other wiki has them!!!Why must we wait for staff to come!!!Besides Prop 4 is passed 14 people voted support and 0 opposed! I am going to speak with angela now! We will have admins tomorow. Also ifg you want to ban vandals in every wiki come up with a IP blocker that simply bans the IP in every wiki. - DV


 * Well, I would say that you don't have to wait any longer than most wikis do for an admin, in fact staff are around more often than most admins are. So I don't see that there is any problem with leaving things as they are for now.  We do have a way to block IPs across all wikia, we just don't use it very often - sannse (talk) 19:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm here to add my two cents. Besides apologizing for not being here to revert the Troll guy, I'd like to say that I think we need admins really quick. I am not saying that you or anyone else is obsolete or something like that, today proved it yet again. What I'm saying is that wouldn't it be better for there to be 7-8 admins here to block someone really quick, so that it makes your job that much easier? NKSCF 20:08, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

And just because we're made admins doesn't mean we'll go inactive after that. NKSCF, Aiddat, and I are usually here for a good part of the day, and Malak and Darth Vacatour are usually pretty active too. Bub 20:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there is a great number of us who stay on here for a very long time. NKSCF 20:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * In the long run, absolutely, of course there should be admins here. But there have been repeated problems with sockpuppeting and game-playing, and Angela has to take that into account too.  She has said this before with specific examples, and nothing has changed yet.  -- sannse (talk) 20:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

When it all comes down to it, it is her choice and I will follow it. NKSCF 20:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

How about we wait a few weeks? I don't think many of us will use the power well (no offense, peoples) if we were appointed now. Bub 20:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

LISTEN its done, I asked Angela to bring in five admins tomorow or the prop will become a petiition! - DV

Templates
sansee at my editthis wiki called the haven ive been trying to make templates like infoboxes and userboxes but the only ones that would work were war and quotes. the others go around and expand and they dont work with articles. im begging if you would go their find out what was wrong and perhapes help me make some of them. Thank you. Heres the link: http://editthis.info/the_haven/Main_Page - DV


 * I'm sorry, I don't have time to edit at editthis too. Templates are sometimes quite complex, and you need to make sure that you have all sub-templates copied over too.  And that there are no css. changes neeeded to make them work.  If you are still having problems, then I suggest you find out what sort of editing support editthis offers - maybe they can ehlp.  -- sannse (talk) 07:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank You
I'd just like to thank you and the other admins for all of the hard work you do for this and other sites. NKSCF 17:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) and no problem! -- sannse (talk) 17:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for making the forum inclusion automatic! That really helps! C3PO the Dragon Slayer 18:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem, it looks like it works for all three now -- sannse (talk) 18:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

FREEDOM OF SPEECH FREEDOM OF SPEEH! THE FIRST AMEDNMENT IS ON MY SIDE!! FREEDOM OF SPEECH! THIS IS A FRIENDLY PETITION WE WANT ADMINS!!!- DV

If it's a friendly petition, why are you typing in capital letters and acting hostile? Bub 23:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

becuase you keep erasing it and telling her dont listen this is not your buisness swfanon wants admins 14 people supported 0 opposed! - DV

Don't you get it? You can't boss the admins around. At least 3 users here have already said you are power hungry. So how about you mind your own "buisness" and let the admins make their own decision. Bub 23:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

WEVE WAITED 3 MONTHS FOR ADMINS! Elections are over people are waiting, we count on these admins every time were attacked someone get the admins we need our own admins! Hell the haven has 7 admins already! Even your 313 has admins! But swfanon which has been around for nearly a year has none and angela claims the times not right! We want admins we want to stop vandals! GIVE ME ADMINS, OR GIVE ME DEATH!!! - DV

Bub's right. We need admins but calm down about it. &mdash; Aiddat (Holonet) (Contribs Log) 00:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

This is a legal protest and we want admins, come on do you really want to do this dont feed trolls they never said they wanted atention I was with ISV for 3 days I know their goals to take out wikimedia not to have people reconginzxe them! tHEY DONT CARE THEY HATE THAT! - DV

3 days is not long enough to know what one wants, or to see what the purpose of what they are doing.

AS SOON AS YOU JOIN ISV YOU GET THEIR CODE OF CONDUCT WHICH ISN'T MUCH OF CODE BESIDES VANDALIZE EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING AND THEIR PURPOSE- DV

That may be true, but do not blind yourself, they maybe something else. Think of all possibilities, not just one or two.

Calm down, DV, and be patient. The admins will decide when we need to have admins. For now we must trust them, and I see no reason not to, so just wait. NKSCF 03:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for all your help. Ewoksfist 20:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Question
sansee can i ask you something. - DV


 * Of course -- sannse (talk) 17:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

the haven wiki was destrouyed if you not yet heard, the one at editthis. the one where i asked for templates. - DV


 * Yes, I heard (although I'm not sure what you mean by "destroyed", it's a wiki, actions can be reversed). But what did you want to ask me? -- sannse (talk) 18:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I sent you a wiki request, i just want to ask you if you would accept. The Haven failed yesterday but i can do good with a wiki. Its purpose is to educate people in jobs, school and leisure stuff from music to games. We also let users help educate people and themselves by reading our articles. And users can create fanon and canon articles of any subject. - DV


 * I need to look at it properly, and there are a lot of others in the queue first, but at first glance it doesn't look like something we would accept. There isn't a clearly defined topic or a clearly defined target community.  I'll look closer when it gets to the top of the list, but I don't think this is one for Wikia.  Sorry -- sannse (talk) 18:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

ive worked so hard. its been my dream to run a wiki that educates people. our topic is multimedia service. to educate people and let them have fun, for them to read articles and write their own. to write canon and fanon educational or leisure we just want to provide enjoyment and education. - Please sansee- DV


 * I'm sorry, it's not what we do here. We have wikis on specific subjects, and are careful never to compete with Wikimedia.  A wiki with such a broad topic is simply not what we look for. -- sannse (talk) 18:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Im not looking to compete, I just want to educate people in diffrent categories, multimedia wikis would be a excellent advancent for the Wikimedia Project. Will you at least consider it? - DV


 * Wikia is not Wikimedia, although both involved Jimbo Wales (and many others of us). I will look a the request, unless someone else does so first, but I don't expect things to change on a closer look.  I'm sorry -- sannse (talk) 18:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

well let me tell you what happened to the haven then. - DV

YESTerday the vandal Dark Unknown hacked into Splarkas acount their, i Gave splarka admin powers earlier that day so this imposter took away me and everyone elses admin powers banned us from the haven and unbanned all vandals. We couldn't get in. Thats how bad it was and to know that vandals can posiibly hack acounts now is truly frightening. - DV


 * As Splarka told you, he has never been to editthis and doesn't have an account there. The account was not hacked, you were just fooled into assuming that the account belonged to the real Splarka.  I suggest you contact the staff at editthis for help. -- sannse (talk) 18:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

but Splarka banned vandals earlier he even gave us a lot of advice it was him i know it was. - DV


 * No, it wasn't him. It was somone who fooled you by pretending to be helpful until they were ready to use the admin powers you gave away.  It was not ever Splarka on editthis.


 * Next time, if someone elsewhere is saying they are a Wikia editor, especailly if they say they are staff, get them to edit a Wikia page with their Wikia account. And don't just check the signature either, check that the edit is by the right person using the history.  Look out for spoofed nicks as well (ones that use special characters to look genuine).  -- sannse (talk) 18:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

seeing as youll say no again ill go make a edithis bye and thanks a lot. - DV

Vandal using ip
There is an ip vandalizing. Ewoksfist 20:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the shout -- sannse (talk) 20:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Ewoksfist 20:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
Why are there several accounts that listed as suspected to be my sockpuppets? The only one I ever made was Wikipsychopath, and that was only a joke. I don't make sockpuppets anymore, I'm a serious contributor to the community. I must say I'm a bit insulted. Ewoksfist 19:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

They were made at about the same time as Wikipsychopath. I thought they were jokes too. Bub 19:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I don't know what list you are talking about. Could I have a link please? -- sannse (talk) 19:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Darth Aeonz 19:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Here go to: Category:Suspected sockpuppets. Ewoksfist 19:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

And we already know Wikipsychopath is one. Bub 19:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Though it was a joke a long time ago, before I'd ever even heard the term sockpuppet. Ewoksfist 19:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The rest of those are vandal accounts of "Johnny" (if I recall). I wouldn't call them sockpuppets, unless you are going to list all the other vandal accounts that have been made in that category.  In fact, I wouldn't bother with a category at all.  Just make a note on the user page for anyone coming across them and forget them. -- sannse (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that Sannse! You rock! Ewoksfist 19:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Please Help
Could u pleae help with The HoloNet Insider I saw how you fixed The Cantina and I hoped you could fix THI. I thank you in advance. The problem is that the posts won't saty and Ii has no template at top. Thank you for your time Darth Aeonz 19:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello?? Darth Aeonz 19:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Please give me a moment to look an write - I can't respond instantly.


 * The first thing that's a problem is that it's not in the right namespace. The page has to be named Forum:Something.  Then have a look at how the other forums work, including how each has a template and that is named in the info box template.  Yu need to copy everything exactly, just changing the names wherever they appear and the text.  If you can't work it out I will have a look - but it may be a few days.  I'm preparing for a trip away at the moment, so am a bit short on time.  Sorry -- sannse (talk) 19:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem at all. Funny enough some user last night moved it formm a Fourm: edit to a SWF edit. I knew it was right at first TY. The only part is the template Tht I dont understand I will look into it Thank you. Darth Aeonz 19:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

This part I don/t get. It wont show up in the Fourm it makes a new page can u plz help b4 u go away.? Darth Aeonz 20:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Please put this template at the top of Your Cantina forum Post:==


 * I'll have a look now -- sannse (talk) 21:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Didn't take as long as I though it might :) you had it almost perfect. All you needed was to have the category and title the same on the index page, and to make a new template at Template:Forumheader/The HoloNet Insider.  I've done those two things, and it looks like it's working fine.  Good work :) -- sannse (talk) 22:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Ty
Ty for what you said on bubs page about me. It means alot to see someone agree with what I say when i ry to help SWF. Are you a Sysop here at the Haven? I thought you were or are w/e have a good trip ok. Darth Aeonz 21:50, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * "here at the Haven"? I'm not sure what you mean there. I am staff on Wikia, which means I have admin rights (and a few extras) on all Wikia wikis.  But not on editthis or on any other off-Wikia wikis -- sannse (talk) 21:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sorry bout the haven part I ment SWF All this DV crap had the haven on my mind My mistake I am sorry to isult you... I know u weren't insulted but u know what i mean. Ty for the kind remarks agian. and I am glad to sea wikia staff member looking out for the SWF site. Ty for what you do. Also ty for looking into the Holonet insider deal I really appiecate it. Darth Aeonz 22:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Vacatour's Ghost?
Another Vacatour? Is it really him, again? Could you please check? Ewoksfist 20:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

What he means is that there is another sockpuppet, User:The Ghost of Darth Vacatour. Bub 20:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't be certain it's him in this instance, but it's certainly possible (Checkuser is not always precise). But if it is him, then he is evading the block, if not then the only reason for the account to exist is disruption.  So I've blocked the account. -- sannse (talk) 20:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Ewoksfist 20:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Audio
Is there any way to upload audio files on this wiki? There was this one song that was free on iTunes that I wanted to upload.


 * you can upload .ogg files, but I don't think you can any other format. To try, just upload the file as you would an image.  But remember that just because you can get the file for free doesn't mean it is copyright free.  You need to be sure it's something that you really can upload without copyright problems.  -- sannse (talk) 14:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Image
Can you delete a picture i put under Bastila Fett Its not meant to be a Boba fett pic

Oh, is that what you were asking? I can do that for you and replace it with another, too. NKSCF 23:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * If you want an image deleted, just make sure it's not used anywhere, and then edit the image page to add .  Then I know exactly which to delete.  Thanks -- sannse (talk) 14:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

IP
Hey do you know Mavoc's IP #? Is it 210.15.254.45? Thank you. Please respond. Master 76


 * Sorry, that information is private unless there is a very good reason to disclose it (for example, if someone vandalises I might block their IP, which would show in the log.) I don't just give this sort of information out on request. -- sannse (talk) 14:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I didn't know. Master 76

Can You Ban Him?
Can you ban Robert Rocks? He vandalized over 20 pages. I really love yoda 14:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I've done so -- sannse (talk) 14:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Sannse, I want you to know that todays vandal was my fault. I am not being apologetic, and I will explain why: I went to the Haven last night and tried to make another sockpuppet there--they range blocked me, so it's been hard--so that I could get on their nerves and have some attack here and get them blocked. I went to the 313 to copy and paste Bobby's message, but I tweaked it for our uses. (I didn't use my name or--I think--mention SW Fanon at all.) I hoped that if the vandals saw it, they would come here or to other wikia and get banned, thus eliminating another threat to the wikis as a whole. I hope you understand. NKSCF 14:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I just went their and apparently some dude is fighting back but DV who now calls himself Jimbo is their. Its awful. Also I discovered DV's new ISV base and hes advertising at the haven. Heres the adress, http://editthis.info/the_alternative_universe/Main_Page

We're being attacked by someome named Lord Sauron, please ban him. NKSCF 18:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * This is exacly what I mean by game-playing. By going there and vandalising (and make no mistake, whtever your intentions you were simply being a common vandal) you are just extending and intensifying these problems.  Instead of being part of the solution, you become part of the game, and so part of the problem.  Drawing people here is pointless, and just makes more work for everyone and distracts us from what we want to be doing.  Bans do not necesarily prevent them from doing the same again another time, that's not the way bans work.  So by bringing them here and getting them banned you achieve nothing, espacially not "eliminating another threat to the wikis as a whole" - that makes no sense at all.


 * I want to say clearly to everyone on this wiki: it is not acceptable to vandalise another wiki, whther it is one attacking swfanon, or talking about "vandal" wars, or whatever sillyness they are playing at. Just let them play whatever silly games they want to off Wikia, here we want to ignore that rubbish and get on with making this a great place for Star Wars fannon.  I know you mean well NKSCF, and I appreaciate that, but please don't do this again.  -- sannse (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh Sannse, while your on, this account would count as a sockpuppet, right? Master 76


 * It's a sockpuppet in that it's a second account (or third), but it's a declared sock, and not an abusive one. So I have no problem with that (within reason, many many accounts would probably annoy people.)  I have three accounts for example: this one, "sanns sock" which is an account I use for testing when there are problems, and "sanns bot" which I use to make automated or semi-automated edits.  That sort of thing is OK, pretending to be someone else and so on isn't. -- sannse (talk) 20:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

All right. I was stopping today anyways. I thought that I was getting rid of a couple people, but it appears I was wrong. I'm sorry for the trouble and will not do it again. NKSCF 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * OK NKSCF, thanks -- sannse (talk) 20:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't take me a lot to know when I'm wrong. I'm glad you hit me in the head on this issue, woke me up. NKSCF 20:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Please help, Adam Kingley is vandalising again! You need to ban him while I revert the damage!! Master 76

It might be a false alarm, but someone told me that there will be an attack at 4:00. If you already know this, please delete this message. NKSCF 19:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Sansee, there is a vandal with an offensive username that is vulgarly vandalizing my user and talk page. This is likely the same user who attacked that user page earlier. He must be banned.

I think you should re-direct LUTHER VANDROSS to a constantly recreated pages area, and protect, like they do on Wookieepedia with pages recreated by vandals.


 * You can do the first part, then let me know and I'll protect -- sannse (talk) 22:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

StarNeptune
People are voting StarNeptune as a possible admin. Would she be a good choice? TempMan | Talk 20:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think she would be an excellent choice. I will talk to Angela about this, but I would certainly be happy to make her an admin -- sannse (talk) 20:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)