Star Wars Fanon:Quote of the Week

 A Quote of the Week is a quote that remains on the Star Wars Fanon Wiki Main Page for a total of seven days, starting on Sunday at 12:00am Eastern Standard Time and lasting until Saturday at 11:59pm Eastern Standard Time. The quote is one that has been chosen by voting users as a quote that represents the best on the wiki.

Good candidates for Quote of the Week should be compelling, engaging, well articulated, and tell an interesting enough story by themselves in order to encourage readers to read more from where it came from, whether it came from an article or a fan fiction story.

Nomination process:

There is a simple process that all Quote of the Week candidates go through in order to be selected as a Quote of the Week. That process is as follows:


 * 1) Any user may nominate a quote from any article or fan fiction story, but only users who meet the voting policy may vote.
 * 2) Quotes are successful after reaching five (5) net votes, which is determined after adding the support and opposition votes. Successful quotes will be placed on the list of upcoming quotes.
 * 3) Quotes are unsuccessful after receiving a net total of negative five (-5) votes, or if they fail to garner any form of consensus after one month of being on the nominations track.
 * 4) All quotes must be sourced. If the quote only appears in an article, the source is the article.
 * 5) Any quote that does not meet the content policy will be removed from the nominations track. It may be removed from the source article as well.
 * 6) Users can use any reason to oppose a nomination. This includes "I don't like the quote," "it's too unbelievable," "it's too long," or anything else. All reasons are acceptable so long as users remain civil.
 * 7) All votes will be either support or oppose; the Comments section should be used to state non-voting opinions.

How to nominate:

When you nominate an article, please use the following nomination form in order to maintain a sense of organization on the nominations track:


 * === Speaker's name ===
 * ==== Quote (+/-#) ====
 * ==== Support ====
 * ==== Oppose ====
 * ==== Comments ====

Nominations will remain on the nominations track until they become successful, the author removes the nomination, it reaches a consensus of opposition, or it fails to gain the necessary votes to be either successful or unsuccessful after one month. If it is successful, the quote will be added to the list of upcoming quotes.

Support

 * 1) -- Wylind (talk)(narratives) 04:29, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Brandon Rhea (talk)  06:13, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3)  Savage  1138  14:35, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Rogue cops, private investigators and vigilantes always get things done more efficiently... AK2.png Ty294 AK1.png (Hey Trak! I'm waiting on you!!!)  02:59, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Wordy, but cops mostly are. -- Josh Bender щ(ﾟДﾟщ) 03:21, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) *Yeah, in a TV crime drama, perhaps. In real life, they're not.  I've been around enough cops growing up to know that they are not very eloquent.  Small talk is small talk, kept short and sweet, and cops usually don't have a flair for the dramatic because when dealing with drunken, disorderly, or otherwise incoherent, aggressive, "denial is a river in Egypt" suspects, one does not have the time to wax poetic.  Try hanging out at the local police station or going for a ride-along for a taste of true cop dialogue.  The above is detective dialogue, which while fine for crime noir Sam Spade monologuing, is not realistic for a beat cop.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 04:22, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) **I agree based on past experiences (My uncle was a cop, I don't have a record).- I'm the Chosen One  02:45, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) ***So? This isn't America, this is Star Wars. We already know that everyone else talks a lot in Star Wars, why wouldn't the cops?-- Josh Bender щ(ﾟДﾟщ) 18:08, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9)  JM  76  Comm 17:12, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) &mdash;  Fiolli  17:11, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Insert generic cop comment here. 06:11, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Overly-wordy meh quote is meh.  Trak Nar  Ramble on 02:36, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) - I'm the Chosen One  10:32, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Sal's second sentence is too flowery/long. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 17:55, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Quote (-4)
"You must learn what it is like to have someone else get the drop on you, so that you will be able to understand how humiliating it is to get shot. And Tuffass is not talking about those stupid dreams you have of waking up in primary school and realizing that you forgot to wear your clothes. No, Tuffass talks about true humiliation, the kind that makes you want to die on the battlefield right there and then! Because that is precisely what you will do if you are ever surprised in a real-life combat situation, when the other pukes have real weapons and that killer instinct!"

- Gunnery Sergeant Tuffass to his platoon, prior to Advance Combat and Tactical Training.

Support

 * 1)  Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:08, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Ooh-rah! 07:17, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3)  Savage  1138  13:29, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Brandon Rhea (talk)  22:32, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I am sure a soldier will truly be feeling humiliation when they get shot.- I'm the Chosen One  10:32, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)  JM  76  Comm 17:12, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Too wordy.-- Josh Bender щ(ﾟДﾟщ) 23:08, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Per Josh. -- Wylind (talk)(narratives) 06:17, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) &mdash;  Fiolli  17:11, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) tl;dr. -MPK, Free Man  23:24, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) Not snappy enough, doesn't have the martial cadence that would seem to fit the character and setting. Atarumaster88  Jedi_Order.svg ( Talk page ) 17:53, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) AK2.png Ty294 AK1.png (Hey Trak! I'm waiting on you!!!) 22:24, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Quote (+3)
"If power made one great, tyrants would dominate the galaxy, would they not?"

- Yoder Gree

Support

 * 1) Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.- I'm the Chosen One  21:36, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) It's a good quote.-- Josh Bender щ(ﾟДﾟщ) 22:55, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Brandon Rhea (talk)  00:37, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) &mdash; Fiolli  02:27, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) A good quote. -- Wylind (talk)(narratives) 16:27, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) Whether we take in context as an at least semi-plausible statement by an individual based on his perceptions and the political climate of the galaxy of his time or as an ironic declaration of ignorance, it still works. -MPK, Free Man  04:12, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Uhhh...tyrants have dominated the galaxy. Quite often, in fact.  23:18, October 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Goodwood.  Savage  1138  13:35, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) AK2.png Ty294 AK1.png (Hey Trak! I'm waiting on you!!!) 05:23, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
Response to Goodwood's vote


 * Depends on what your definition of "is" is. - Brandon Rhea  (talk)  00:37, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the Republic=25,000 years and the Empire? Less than 50. So, HA!  I'm the Chosen One  00:17, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * And how many wars was the Republic involved with in total, never mind ones that nearly destroyed it? And let us not forget those uncountable tyrants that flourished quite well beyond the frontiers of the Republic and its successor states. 04:27, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wars make one tyrannical? Did a single being within the Republic rise to dictatorial power where he abolished the Senate and the Judicial Branch PRIOR to Palpatine? I can agree that there were a few tyrants in the galaxy prior, during and after the Republic, but the sheer fact that the Republic outlasted all of them shows that it is indeed a democratic galaxy. Tyrannies lasted a micro-second compared to the Republic and the planetary republics, so that also bodes badly for the notion that tyrannies dominated. Finally, we arrive at size factor. The Galactic Republic dwarfed every and all contemporary government bar the Empire. Every area of "domination" one can look at is democratic-favored. The Star Wars galaxy was essentially supposed to be a free and equal galaxy until the creation of the Empire.- I'm the Chosen One  02:42, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * But doesn't it always seem the tyrants have the weak Republic beaten fairly easily until some stereotypical hero guy comes in and kills the tyrant? And even though the Republic itself was free, all of the individual worlds/systems had their own governments, not all of which were free or "democratic". I wouldn't go as far as to say tyrants have dominated the galaxy, but they seem far more effecient and able to beat the Republic when they do exist... and they always seem to exist. AK2.png Ty294 AK1.png (Hey Trak! I'm waiting on you!!!) 05:23, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yet you have proven my point that the tyranny has no chance against the might of the Republic, losing every single time to said Republic for 25,000. It isn't the fault of the Republic that they have the democratic oriented Jedi to help them. And I also point out that democratic run societies rule the majority of known space which rules out a domination of tyranny on the individual system level. I would argue against your last point based on my first sentence and my previous reply. They are not more efficient or equipped to take down the OGR or they would have done so and any half-brained general or so could stage a coup d'etat and become a dictator. To try to completely eliminate dictatorial rule is like trying to stop the rain from falling..- I'm the Chosen One  13:43, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Might of the Republic"? That's actually pretty comical. If you read my post, you'd notice I pointed out that the Republic is always in dire straights until the typical hero character single-handedly kills the main villian and saves the galaxy in one fell swoop! Also, where is your statistics on most of the individual planets being democratic? Just asking. Pretty much every one that I can think of (where I actually know the political system) is a tyranny or "soft" tyranny. (Alderaan - Monarchy, Chiss - Socialist, Tatooine and all of Hutt Space - Cartels, Taris - Aristocracy, Corporate Sector - Corporate tyranny) The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Naboo, which is a democratic monarchy (not really a monarchy, just titles of a monarchy). And I'd argue the Jedi (the old Jedi Order, not the new one), as an order, are VERY authoritarian toward their members: They take kids from their parents, indoctronate them into a very narrow and dogmatic view, tell them they can never visit family or have emotional attachment, and further tell them never to have "passion" or "emotion", or at the very least never let them affect a decision. This is self-contridictory of course, since the Jedi are supposedly "compassionate" and "loving", which are emotions, but enough of my ranting against the Jedi. I think I make my point. (And BTW, I fully believe and support the republican form of the government in the real world, but it seems very blundering, incompetant, and very damn lucky, in Star Wars). In short, I don't believe tyranny has "dominated the galaxy", but I'd say it's prolly existed non-stop as long as the Republic, and prolly has control in as many systems as democratic gov'ts exist. AK2.png Ty294 AK1.png (Hey Trak! I'm waiting on you!!!) 03:57, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the Jedi are an institution of the Republic so they were pretty mighty...and, apart from the KOTOR games, there have really been this supposed Mary-Sue character you insinuate there being. The entire Core, Colonies and Inner Rims are primarily "democratic" in that they are not ruled by a totalitarian, communist or other and I might add that monarchies are NOT necessarily dictatorial. (Chiss aren't in the Republic jurisdiction nor where they known for the majority of the GR's history. The Outer Rim doesn't count since they also were not a part of the GR. Aristocracy's may qualify, but as such they are very, vary rare and the Corporate Sector was independent of the Republic because they were located in the ORT.) The Jedi Order ASKS if the parents will allow for their child to be taken, they aren't kidnappers. And they do not say to be robots, only to control their emotions and leave it out of the decision-making progress, hardly contradictory or anything of that order, but that is beside the point. Your last comment does not make sense for this since discussion since you are essentially agreeing with my Quote of the Week but decided not to vote for it "just because".- I'm the Chosen One  14:32, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Note that this quote was directed toward the whole galaxy. If I'm not mistaken, systems outside of the Republic are still part of the Galaxy. And also note that I said "soft tyranny". You don't have to be brutal to still be a dictatorial government. You can actually have very kind rulers, but they still have near absolute authority, so they do not qualify as "free" because people don't have an official say in government. (And I did ask where you got the statistics on how you know all the Core, Colony and Inner Rim worlds are "democracies" (and democracy is a fairly broad term, and even so-called democraies can be cruel and tyrannical))? And do the Jedi ask the children if they want in? And if you leave emotion out of decision making, how are you supposed to be compassionate or caring? But what should I expect from a Jedi sympathizer? AK2.png Ty294 AK1.png (Hey Trak! I'm waiting on you!!!)  14:46, November 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * When did it say whole galaxy? Yoder is a Jedi after all. Like I said, monarchies and other governments that appear to be dictatorial in nature are not always dictatorial, such as Alderaan. Alderaan is the perfect example of a single rule government that is a democracy. Also, the general term "democracy" is not that same as "Direct Democracy", which the Greeks of Athens were most famous for. The USA government doesn't allow a direct say by the people of the nation, but it isn't considered a tyranny in the least bit. You are mixing it up. A representative or intermediary democracy is the case for most planets and not absolute rule or direct democracy. Furthermore, I did not say ALL governments in the Core, Colonies and Inner Rim were democratic, only MOST since they were the founders of the Republic which is a democratic republic/liberal/representative/parliamentary democracy. The child does not need to be consulted since the parents make all legal/binding decisions for them until they reach adulthood. Finally, where did you get that I was a Jedi-sympathizer? My name? - I'm the Chosen One  17:00, November 3, 2011 (UTC)