User talk:TK-999

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IRC
Search "web irc" in Google and click on the link that says "freenode Web IRC (qwebirc)". That one works.- I'm the Chosen One You must see it... 19:19, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Warning
Per your Imperial communique, I'm here to warn you. What for? You know what you did. That is all. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 19:20, March 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your sarcasm-o-meter needs some fine tuning. =P - Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg (talk) 19:24, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with talking to users. On the contrary, I encourage it. What I discourage is leaving a message every time you see a user do something you perceive as wrong, needing improvement, etc. Your intentions in doing so would be 100% good, but for a newer or younger user it can easily be taken as hounding and harassment&mdash;especially since not everyone knows about Recent Changes or Wiki Activity, which has made people in the past think that I was just following them around. Communication and perception is in the mind of the listener, after all. - Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg (talk) 19:33, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * So I can try to be more helpful, let's try this if you want. Pretend I'm a user who has just made my first edits, but they're a slew of edits that don't really conform to the Manual of Style. Additionally, I've uploaded 2 unsourced and unlicensed images. Write a warning on my talk page. I can then give you feedback on that warning. =) - Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg (talk) 19:39, March 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Make sure to lay into him. I want to be able to "interpret" it as such. Interpretation is the key after all.- I'm the Chosen One You must see it... 19:49, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Test
Cool, not bad. I do have some tips on that though:


 * "While we're glad that you began contributing to our wiki"&mdash;two things there. The "While we're glad…" sets up immediately a sense of "You're doing it wrong," and it's not the best impression you want to give from the get-go. Additionally, "our wiki" suggests that ownership belongs to other people and that the user is a guest on the wiki. Philosophically, everyone owns the wiki.
 * "below the standards set by the Manual of Style"&mdash;to me, this is basically just a nicer way of saying "your articles suck" in terms of how it can be taken.
 * "The second problem"&mdash;I wouldn't use the word "problem." It suggests that the user actually is causing a problem, which they're really not.
 * The information about the image sourcing and licensing is good, but also overly-detailed and scary. You mentioned the US government and NASA&mdash;that could make people think it's too complicated and scare them away from uploading images. Additionally, with our image policy being a bucket of lol, all the detail doesn't really help. That's through no fault of your own, though.
 * The Writing Center mentioning is good, but the set up of the Writing Center is done in a way where just sending them to the Writing Center can lead them to a dead end. They would need to know which specific forum in the Writing Center to go to.
 * Also be sure to welcome them to SWF if they're new.

So, here's the way I would write it:


 * Hey TK, welcome to Star Wars Fanon! Good job on your articles so far. There's a couple things that I wanted to help you with, though, in order to make sure your articles are the best they can be. The first is that I've cleaned up some of the formatting for you to go with the basic style of the wiki. You can click here ("click here" would be a link were it a real message) for a comparison between my edits and your last edits, to give you an idea of what I did specifically. Basically, the best thing to do would be to take a look at some of the other pages on the wiki (you can click here to generate random pages to read) to get a basic idea for the style, and just remember to write in the historical past tense and with proper spelling and grammar to the best of your ability.


 * The last thing I just wanted to point out is our image uploading guidelines. It can seem a bit complicated at first but trust me, it's not as scary as it looks! Basically you just need to take a look at the steps in that and choose whatever method for sourcing and licensing that you're most comfortable with.


 * If you need any help or there's anything you're unsure of, feel free to leave me a message and I'd be happy to lend a hand. There are a lot of other users in the community that would be happy to help too, so feel free to post a topic in the writing tips forum, part of our Writing Center, to ask for any help any time you need. Thanks, and enjoy your time here! =)

So what I tried to do there is make it as least intimidating and confrontational as possible, and&mdash;other than a subtle link to the Manual of Style and my mentioning of the image uploading guidelines (rather than using the word "policy")&mdash;with as little sense of authority as possible. It's written in a way to suggest as much helpfulness and as little administrative warning as possible. I also mentioned the specific forum in the Writing Center.

Also as a note that with the image uploading, I wrote that under the assumption that the new image policy will be proposed and approved in the very near future, hence the use of the word "steps."

You'll notice I didn't specifically mention the Manual of Style either. That was a conscious choice. I'd much rather direct people to other articles and point out to use the right tense, spelling, and grammar when possible, and save pointing to the long-winded MOS as a second or third, etc. option.

With that said, after leaving that note, I wouldn't leave a message for awhile. I'd give the person a day or two to try and familiarize themselves by using the other articles, and I'd help them clean up their articles without necessarily saying anything else. After a few days, if it still seems like no change is made, I'd leave them another friendly message&mdash;not a warning, but another friendly reminder.

I hope that was useful - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 21:20, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

User of the Month
Congratulations, TK-999! We here at the Star Wars Fanon Wiki look forward to your continued contributions to the community, as well as your own fan works! 23:32, March 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! Well deserved. - Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg (talk) 13:45, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Welcome back!
Hey TK! Glad to be back! I was gone longer than expected, as the short story gave me much grief. However, by and large, it's going very well. I'm still in the first draft stage, but I have a definite idea now of where the story is going. Oh, and because I saw your "User of the Month" tag on your talk page, I wanted to give you my congratulations again on earning that prestigious award. --Sebolto of Malastare  (Blab with me)  13:11, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll admit, it's pretty classy! :) I also like your new signature. I think it's about time I developed a new one. --<font color="#FF33CC">Sebolto of Malastare  <font color="#FF33CC">(Blab with me)  13:16, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Interwiki Message
Ah, thank you very much. We've been having problems with this said user violating the canon policy on the wikia for quite some time; is it just those three articles or are there yet more?

As a side note, past tense is highly recommended as a style on the HFFW; however, its not mandated, inorder to allow somewhat greater freedom writing. Though I will note, present tense is silly and unworkable in a good story. =P

If you wish to discuss this, please message me on the #SWFanon IRC Channel - I like to hang out there under the nickname of "[Leo]"; to help improve interwiki relationships between #SWFanon and #Halo-Fanon =).

SPARTAN-118 (Talk) (Contributions) 14:35, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Notification
Thanks. Easiest thing to do in cases like this, where it's not clear whether or not the user has permission, is to ask. If they didn't have permission, we can revert. If they did have permission, even better! - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 17:11, March 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I already did. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea Alliance Starbird.svg <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 17:13, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

User of the Month
Hey TK, Thanks for supporting my nomination as User of the Month! It means a lot to me! --<font color="#FF33CC">King of the Dugs  <font color="#FF33CC">(Blab with me)  15:10, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re: ASE Navy
Oops, my bad. :) I meant ABY, not BBY. I fixed it. Thanks for the notification TK! --<font color="#FF33CC">King of the Dugs  <font color="#FF33CC">(Blab with me)  15:42, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sigh. All these dates are messing with my mind. I'll get it sorted out. --<font color="#FF33CC">King of the Dugs  <font color="#FF33CC">(Blab with me)  15:49, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Cole Kroger
Sorry, I got that from Jon Stewart and I thought it was humorous. Lord Kroger (Talk) 20:13, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Year articles
Hello there mate. While I appreciate the help in getting the year articles straightened out, I've got it covered using a quick system developed over hundreds of edits. In addition, as far as I know years themselves don't get specific era tags, much like planets and species (they're "timeless", as it goes). If you have any questions or concerns, please shoot me a message. Thanks! 20:34, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's quite alright. Like I said, the help is appreciated. But if I happen to be wrong about the era icons in years, then feel free to spread the love. If you'd like to correct more year articles, ask about the little system I've got going.  20:46, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hello, TK-999, Smashbro1996 here. I got your messages, and I thank you for the compliment on the 2nd message. In my case, I always appreciate compliments. I just wanted to let you know that your kindness & friendliness is greatly appreciated.

Once again, Thank you. Smashb96&#39; (Talk) 18:13, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Advice
Hey, TK-999, Smashb96' here again. I just wanted to ask you: What was the 'confused' face on your most recent message? I don't know what you meant by it.

BTW, I'm just a friendly and kind person, and I'm grateful whenever someone is kind or friendly to me.

It's not that I don't know about constructive criticism, I just only use it whenever I feel it is necessary.

I'm sorry if I may have confused you. Smashb96&#39; (Talk) 20:16, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Gotcha. Thanks for the info. Smashb96&#39; (Talk) 20:22, March 12, 2011 (UTC)