Star Wars Fanon:Good articles/Nominations

Star Wars Fanon's Good articles The good articles of the wiki are articles that represent the norm of Star Wars Fanon. Articles that no longer meet the criteria can be proposed for improvement or removal at Star Wars Fanon:High Priests.

What makes a good article or what article should you nominate to be good? To answer that, we've prepared a list just in case someone should ask that, and it is as follows.

An article must&hellip;


 * 1) &hellip; be identified with proper era icons.
 * 2) &hellip; be well written, comprehensive and detailed; however, not to the extent of the requirement for a Featured Article.
 * 3) To be well written, the article must have a prose that is engaging and of a professional standard.
 * 4) To be detailed, an article must be written in an encyclopedic format with no point of view in the detail, though that detail is not excess nor irrelevant; instead, the detail must also contact all relevant major facts and plot points.
 * 5) The article must acknowledge and explore all aspects of the subject and cover every encyclopedic angle.
 * 6) The article does not need to have a finished storyline.
 * 7) The article must be clear, using a logical structure written in plain language.
 * 8) The article must follow standard writing conventions of modern English (ie, correct grammar, punctuation and spelling).
 * 9) All grammar and spelling must be one hundred percent accurate. The High Priests and voting members of the community will inspect all of it to make proper edits.
 * 10) &hellip; have an introduction of at least one-hundred and fifty (150) words that summarizes the entire topic and prepares the reader for the greater detail in the following sections.
 * 11) &hellip; follow the Manual of Style, Layout Guide, categorization policy, as well as all other policies.
 * 12) &hellip; contain enough images where appropriate, but the page is not cluttered or overstocked.
 * 13) &hellip; ensure that all images in said article follow the standards of sourcing in the Image policy.
 * 14) &hellip; not be tagged with improvement tags at the time of nomination.
 * 15) &hellip; have absolutely no red links, as they must be filled with at least stubs or not be linked to at all.
 * 16) &hellip; have no links in section titles.
 * 17) &hellip; have a brief "Personality and traits" section that generalizes the character's said personality
 * 18) &hellip; be stable, meaning that it is not the subject of any edit wars and that the content does not change significantly from day to day, reversions of vandalism and improvements based on suggestions not applying.

How to nominate:
 * 1) First, nominate an article you find to be worthy of Good Article status by putting it at the bottom of the list below. Add GAnom to any nominated article. Please nominate in this format:
 * ===Article name ===
 * ====Support====
 * ====Oppose====
 * ====Neutral/comments====
 * 1) Others will object to the nomination if they do not believe that the article is good enough. They will then supply reasons for doing so and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources).
 * 2) Supporters will adjust the article until the objectors are satisfied
 * 3) The GAnom banner should be placed at the top of all nominated articles.

How to vote:
 * 1) Remember, you can only vote if you meet the requirements of the voting policy.
 * 2) Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely and keep a sharp eye out for mistakes
 * 3) Afterward, either support or object the article’s nomination
 * 4) If you object the nomination, you must supply concrete reasons for doing so, as well as your suggestions as to how the article can be improved. If you do not provide a valid opposition, your vote will be removed.
 * 5) As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters and anyone willing to improve the article. Action will be taken to please the objectors.
 * 6) To be a Good Article on Star Wars Fanon, a nomination must have at least eleven votes, of which at least four must be contributed by High Priests. Articles will remain on the nominations track until they receive the required amount of votes or until the author pulls the nomination, but they need to be on the nominations track for at least one week even if they receive the required number of votes before then.

In addition, put the number sign, #, next to your name so the votes can be counted. Please sign your posts as well!

High Priests, please be sure to place HP before each of your votes, to identify all High Priest votes.

A small blue check in the top right corner of an article's page indicates that the article is a good article.

Current standings

 * 1) Tiberius Henry Zaren (7)
 * 2) Gloaranian (1)
 * 3) Rhadé Sarasvati Nalanda (-3)
 * 4) Raymus Drewton (2)
 * 5) Shizu Lanmaw (4)
 * 6) Battle of Kothlis (Cruentusian War) (5)
 * 7) Hayai Oujou (0)
 * 8) Brandon Rhea (1)

Support (0 High Priests/1 user/1 total)

 * 1) I did all editing to make it qualified for the "good article" thing.-Endor chicken
 * 2) *I fixed all the mistakes. But what’s wrong with the animals they’re based off of. And for lions and bison, off curse they do exist in that galaxy. If it “far, far way”, why are there Humans, dogs, cats, horses, ducks, rabbits, chickens and all those other creatures there? Sorry to disappoint you.-Endor chicken
 * 3) **Uh, when the hell have you ever heard a bison mentioned in Star Wars? Does this link take you anywhere: ? Heh, no. Deal with it. Secondly, I don't mind them being based upon it, but, in my opinion, this is a crossover. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 16:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *To be fair, a crossover from what? "Real life" is not a genre. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom) (Record) 17:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ***Fair point... well, there's still the other matters, and my opinion that 'Bison' should be kicked out, and that it's plaguerism. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 19:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Colonel_Raibat2.jpg|thumb|right|120px]]
 * You can't plagiarize real life, Tom. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom) (Record) 17:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not talking 'bout that. I mentioned it was a bit too similar to Shapeshifters in my opinion. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 05:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not meaning to kick in to this, but this is SW Fanon, and he can have bison if he wants. After all, there are several species in Star Wars which also exist on Earth.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 23:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) It needs the Ga nom thing on the article first. Second I am with Obi. Until you have fixed the article up, this vote will be an oppose. Nice job Obi! [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 06:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) It's really not a bad article. However, there are quite a few technical errors (ie grammar, spelling, and tense.) Obi and tom have already listed the various mistakes throughout the article. Therefore, I don't see the need for me to repeat them. After they're fixed, I'll suppor this.
 * 3) These are my quibbles:
 * 4) *In the introduction: ‘Slavory’ should be ‘slavery’.
 * 5) *In ‘Biology and appearance’: ‘apperances’ should be ‘appearances’
 * 6) *In ‘Males’: ‘normaly’ should be ‘normally’.
 * 7) *In ‘Society and Culture’: You say: ‘If a Lone Gloaranian’, when it should be ‘If a lone Gloaranian’.
 * 8) *Same section: ‘homeworld’ should be ‘homeworld’.
 * 9) *I see the name ‘bison’ mentioned. Do these exist in Star Wars? Heh, no.
 * 10) * ‘Skills and talents’: ‘fallowing’ should be ‘following’.
 * 11) *In the section ‘Males’: ‘It seems likely that the function of stripes was camouflage, serving to hide them from their prey’ Per the MOS, this should be past tense, so ‘It seemed likely’.
 * 12) *Do lions exist in Star Wars?
 * 13) *Same section: ‘normaly’ should be ‘normally’.
 * 14) *To me, it seems to be a bit of fanon stealing; ‘Yawo’ sounds too much like Brandons ‘Yahweh’, and they resemble Solus’ shapeshifters very much.
 * 15) **To comment on that, Tom, Brandon did not come up with "Yahweh." --Victor (talk) 04:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 16) *In the ‘History’ section, that quote is appalling; no one speaks like that. You don’t have to mess up every word. And referring to a Wolf as ‘hot look’n’ is just…
 * 17) *To me, it seems to be a combination of fanon stealing, and of a crossover of wolves. This will need work.
 * 18) *Expand the history section. Far too small; it’s just a brief skim-over at the moment.
 * 19) *The history section should also be made more interesting, as the current one bores me.
 * 20) **--[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 20:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) Per above. Really isn't a bad article, although I agree with Tom's arguments regarding the fanon similarities regarding the Shapeshifters.  Wing   msg 16:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
Under Biology and appearance: Under Skills and talents:
 * "The Gloaranian’s coat was made up of long guard hairs that repelled moisture, and a wooly under fur which provided some insulation." Wooly to woolly.
 * "A Gloaranian’s mane increases in size, helping it look more imposing, and also protected the head and neck during fights." The sentence is a run-on, and/or is hard to understand. Needs to be fixed.
 * "The Gloaranians; with their long legs, enormous paws, and great stamina, enabled it to cover distances of 32km/h (20mph) or 38 to 64km/h (24 to 40mph), to more at an energy-efficient 10km/h (6.2mph) trot." The semi colon needs to be changed to a comma. Another broken sentence as well.
 * "This way, the nose is protected down to -60*F (-51*C)." Tense.
 * "In summer, when their tails become more slender do to the shedding season, they would use them for keeping away Vampire flies." "Do" to "Due".
 * "The thumb was even opposable, do to it being able to touch all the other digits." Same.
 * "However, because of their isolation, they did not measure time or by the galactic calendar, but by their instincts." Remove "or".
 * "...a 12-16-month old cub or pup would be considered a kid..." Remove the dash between 16 and month.
 * " All the other bones; which included the neck, clavicle, shoulders, sternum, ribs, chest shape, spine, pectorals..." ";" to ",".
 * "Their scenes were also well developed." Scenes to senses.
 * "And when prey was far away, usually before fallowing xyroid migrations, they could use their highly sensitive ears to search for “humming” Kio berries, a fruit often eaten by Gloaranians when meat food was scarce." It's a broken sentence, and fallowing should be following.
 * "But not being able to see color helped the females a great deal, usually helping it find its way through snow or finding and fallowing prey." Same.
 * "The Gloaranians sense of smell was about a hundred times better then that of a Human’s..." Apostrophe needed.
 * "Another ability the females possessed was by using their anal scent glands at the ends of their long brushy tails for a variety of reasons."
 * "But when danger was near, the females would use this anal gland as a weapon; by squirting a foul-smelling liquid from 12 feet right at the danger’s eyes." Broken sentence, ";" to "," after "weapon". You may want to change "the danger's eyes" to "the threat's eyes" as well.
 * "Sharo was proven to be one of the most force-sensitive members of the species, discovering lots of various force powers that were not yet discovered since that time. " Change "lots" to "a number of", and "were not yet" to "had not been". Remove "since that time".
 * "...only to the extant of her species, a Varanian, and a few similar animal species. No other Gloaranian in history was known to have this ability." "Extant" to "extent", and "was known to have" to "was known to have possessed" or "was known to possess."

If the above objections are solved, I will read the rest of the article. Good job, though, Endor chicken. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 04:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll review it tonight. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at this later. The infobox image gives me an interesting first impression. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 16:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Per MPK . Hopefully I'll have time to read it tonight.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

This is something I would support, but there are still one or two spelling mistakes. I usually don't judge articles on their source story, only on how they're done. This seems to be well written. Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Support (4 High Priests/3 user/7 total)

 * 1)  Wing   msg 19:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Very good job, Wing. --[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 00:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Great job Wing! [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 05:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Most certainly. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Some of it, especially the quotes, is a bit too Star Trek, but that's not a problem with the article. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) This certainly qualifies.
 * 7) I read it again. It'll do. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 15:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I really like this article. There are some grammer mistakes. When they are fixed I will vote to support. Nice job Wing! [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav  (talk ) 05:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Grammar mistakes fixed. [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] Arav (talk ) 05:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *You should be listing what these grammar mistakes are when you oppose an article, Arav. Just as a side note, I find it ironic that you've misspelled "grammar" in this opposition. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 05:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] <font color="Green">Arav (<font color="Green" size="1">talk ) 22:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Your article's pretty good, thought it does have some problems that need to be fixed. So here's my review:
 * Intro
 * 1) *In the second paragraph, "Thermobraic" should be spelled "Thermobaric".
 * Maiden Voyage
 * 1) *"Maiden Voyage" should be spelled "Maiden voyage" unless it's an actual event.
 * 2) *Twice in the first paragraph, once in the image, and once in the last paragraph, you spelled "Thermobraic" incorrectly. It should be spelled "Thermobaric".
 * Search for Loque
 * 1) *Once in the fourth paragraph, you spelled "Thermobraic" incorrectly. It should be spelled as "Thermobaric".
 * Personality and traits
 * 1) *In the second paragraph, "Thermobraic" should be spelled "Thermobaric".
 * 2) *For the most part, it was just the word thermobaric that tripped you up. It's quite a good article otherwise. Good job. --[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 18:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Missed one. The first image in "Early life" says Tiberius with her father, Daniel. That should be his, don't you think?--[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 18:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Wing   msg 23:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1)  My quibbles are as follows:
 * 2) *In the ‘Introduction’ and ‘Maiden Voyage’ section, as well as once in ‘Personality and traits’, as well as ‘Search for Loque’, all mentions of ‘thermobraic’ should be changed to thermobaric.
 * 3) *In ‘Early life’: ‘his wife, Virginia Zaren, he was moved and raised by his parents on Coruscant’ should be changed to ‘his wife, Virginia Zaren. He was moved and raised by his parents on Coruscant.’
 * 4) *Same section: ‘manage the the’ should be ‘manage the’. Delete repeated word.
 * 5) *In ‘Maiden Voyage’: ‘he was farewelled’ should be ‘he was bid farewell’ or something on those lines. ‘Farewelled’ isn’t a word.
 * 6) *Same section: ‘undiverse’ should be ‘non diverse’ or something on those lines.
 * 7) *In the section ‘Great Expanse War’: ‘it's’ should be ‘its’.
 * 8) *Same section, same again, but regarding the Republic.
 * 9) *Same section: ‘Tiberius lead his fleet’ should be ‘Tiberius led his fleet’.
 * 10) *Same section: ‘what concerned him, is how the ground assault was going’ should be ‘what concerned him was how the ground assault was going’.
 * 11) *Same section: ‘The Dimeans crossed into the Inner Rim, sieging upon worlds’ should be ‘The Dimeans crossed into the Inner Rim, laying siege upon worlds’.
 * 12) *Same section: ‘Tiberius lead the defense of Hapes’ should be ‘Tiberius led the defense of Hapes’.
 * 13) *Same section: ‘maintain it's sovereignty’ should be ‘maintain its sovereignty’.
 * 14) *In ‘Search for Loque’: ‘must do what he believes is right’ should be ‘must do what he believed to be right’.
 * 15) *Same section: ‘The next competition would be a safe duel between the Dimean commander’ should be ‘The next competition was a safe duel between the Dimean commander’.
 * 16) *Same section: ‘Chancellor Jorben however, decided that Tiberius may keep his command for his service to the Republic’ should be ‘Chancellor Jorben however, decided that Tiberius could keep his command for his service to the Republic’. Past tense, remember.
 * 17) *In ‘Personality and traits’: ‘and it's planets’ should be ‘and its planets’.
 * 18) *Same section: ‘crew so much to the point, he resigned’ should be ‘crew so much to the point where he resigned’.
 * 19) *Otherwise, I really enjoyed the storyline and all round article; well written, and, if these are fixed, I have no problems with this becoming a good article. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 19:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed.  Wing   msg 23:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) I will not support Star Trek being shoehorned into SWFanon. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 17:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *It's not completely being shoehorned. The Expansion Region was the furtherest of explored space in 13,000 BBY. Someone would have needed to explore areas of it, which is why I am making explorers whom find these worlds and some worlds I make up. I am leading up to the exploration of the Mid and Outer Rims.  Wing   msg 21:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * MPK, assuming you're referring to the exploration stuff, then Wing's right. He's following a piece of canonical information in that the Expansion Region was the furthest explored space by the Republic at that time. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 21:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Although, I will admit some ideas were borrowed, but I don't see it as me shoehorning it.  Wing   msg 21:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Brandon, I find it preposterous that you of all people are defending this. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 22:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm defending the idea of having a story about exploration. TheStarWarsRP.Com has a timeline where the Republic has only explored to the end of the Expansion Region, which is where Wing got this from I presume, and that is based on a canon fact. Now, I'm not defending the actual story itself, because I have yet to read it. I'm simply saying there's nothing wrong with having a story about exploration. If it's simply Star Trek that you have a problem with, meaning the images he used, then answer this. Why did you vote for Conrad Bac and say "Brandon has yet to run out of steam"? Why have you never voiced any concerns about Jonathan Bac? - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 23:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If the differences really go over your head, then attempting to explain it would be futile. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 23:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, I haven't read the article, but if it's simply Star Trek itself that you have a problem with rather than how it's used then I see this as nothing more than bias. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 23:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) My only objection is that there are not nearly enough links within the article. You make reference to all these different things and I would like to know more aboiut them. If it wasn't for that, I'd support even if it IS Star Trek. <font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  06:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

 * 1) Looks good. I'll review it tonight. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 06:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * All right, I admit I was out of line. I'll give this a proper examination tomorrow. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 01:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Is anyone else gonna look at it?  Wing   msg 22:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see a vote from you on the nomination for Gloaranian, so it's a bit impolite to start becoming impatient over how long your nomination is taking when you're not even extending the courtesy of a review to other nominations. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 23:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Support (0 High Priests/1 user/1 total)

 * 1) My only concern is that the article is not too long, not sure if I could make it longer as I didn't really want to ramble but there's no real guide as to how long the body of the article should be other than the fact it should cover all plot points (which it does). <font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  10:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed it up, took out some of the headings. As for the images, how much does it matter they're 2D? it could be like she's in a comic. <font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  11:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed again, made it longer. <font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  06:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) The only way I will support an article with such a lack of detail in certain areas is if it is totally, 100% sourced from in-Wiki fan fiction narratives. As of the moment, it's not, so I won't support it until it is. My reasoning is that if this isn't information from only fan fiction, then authors need to take the time to come up with more information. If it does come entirely from fan fiction, it needs to be sourced. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 21:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Here are my quibbles:
 * 3) *Appearance:
 * 4) *Infobox image is too small.
 * 5) *The images are horrible, self drawn or not. I’d like to see at least the infobox image changed to get it to featured article status.
 * 6) *Most of the sections are far too short individually.
 * 7) *Spelling and grammar:
 * 8) *In the infobox: ‘height=1.72 metres’ should be ‘height=1.72 meters’
 * 9) *In the section entitled: ‘Battle of Naboo’, ‘assited’ should be ‘assisted’.
 * 10) *In the section ‘Imbroglio Summit’, ‘accompaied’ should be ‘accompanied’.
 * 11) *Same section: ‘realised’ should be ‘realized’.
 * 12) *In the section: ‘Battle of Imbroglio and Death’, ‘temporarilty’ should be ‘temporarily’.
 * 13) *Same section: ‘When the fighting ceased temporarilty, Jango Fett arrived with an offer of mercy if they surrendered,’ should be ‘When the fighting ceased temporarilty, Jango Fett arrived with an offer of mercy if they surrendered;’ Semi colon at the end or full stop.
 * 14) *In the section ‘Naboo Crisis’, ‘disgusing’ should be ‘disguising’.
 * 15) *In the section entitled: ‘Assassination Attempt’, ‘occuring’ should be ‘occurring’.
 * 16) *POV, Mary Sue etc.:
 * 17) *In ‘Personality and Traits’: ‘Despite being born in one of the more prominent Naboo families, Nalanda always did what was best for her people and the Republic she believed in’ Point of View and Mary Sue.
 * 18) *Miscellaneous:
 * 19) *What Brandon said.
 * 20) *Comments that aren’t an oppose:
 * 21) *It’s not badly written, just a few problems. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 07:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * About the images, I did them when I was writing the story so I had a clear image in my mind of what Nalanda looked like and what she was wearing. The reason why the infobox image is small is that it has a low DPI and if it were bigger it would look pixelated. I have the original (it's a vector graphic) on my broken old computer but need a floppy disk to get it off there. Aside from the other edits, there's two I actually object to doing "metres" to "meters" and "realsing" to "realizing" for the simple reason that I am Australian, however there is the MOS and I have no choice I guess. I'll get to the editing.<font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  09:48, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Calling self-drawn images horrible is rather harsh, Tom. Not only will I say that I'd like to see you do better, but I'll also say that you shouldn't be concerning yourself with getting a better image for this to be a Featured article. You're here to judge articles and vote on articles for Good Article quality, and that means whether or not an image will look good on the main page is of no concern to you as a High Priest. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 13:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As a High Priest it doesn't concern me, but as a normal user it very much does. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 07:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Darth Tom, I can do something about the image quality of the pictures (give them higher res etc) but is there any reaosn to get them off there just because they look dumb? If you want bad-looking images, look at the gallery wardrobe page and see the ones I chose not to add (particularly the red one as it's a favourite of mine) <font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  11:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I see what you're saying, however liking the images is personal opinion. However, I've said that not liking the images isn't a point to oppose on, so that specific point isn't an oposition. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 12:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) My fellow HPs have made many sitings. I'll simply  add a few more points.
 * 2) *The misuse of commas. While I have a great deal of sympathy in this matter, all grammar errors must be corrected.
 * 3) *”fought valiantly against the Military Creation Act.” Valiantly seems a tad bit POV to me.
 * 4) *Sections are way too short. There is a lot of room to expand this article. For example, in the Plea to the Senate section, perhaps you could explain how Rhade’s ship was damaged. I’m not trying to tell you how to write your article. I’m just trying to give you an example of how you might expound on elements of the work.
 * 5) *The quote in Early Life needs a period.
 * I'll right, it's updated, what's the verdict now? <font color="#008080">Katana <font color="#008080">Geldar  11:20, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Some of the sections are too short (one paragraph?), there could be more detail, and section titles should not be capitilized. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Untill those matters are fixed, this vote will be an oppose.--<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

 * I'll give this a look later as it seems all the High Priests are busy.  Wing   msg 15:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look tomorrow. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] iChat What I've done 21:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at this later tonight or tomorrow night.--[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Support (1 High Priests/2 users/3 total)

 * 1) It's similar to Tarisian Drewton, but currently I don't have any fanon material that would make an article as long. I believe I've fixed all the spelling. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Edit away the improvement tag, and it's a fine article - looks very professional.--[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Yes. &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 17:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) The flies in the buttermilk:
 * 2) *“After the battle which had been taking place at the time they had landed, they were brought back to their homeplanet, Naboo, by Jedi Master Idnum-Ki.” That’s kind of awkward sounding.
 * Fixed. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) *The Early Life section is too short.
 * There's nothing I can do about that because I don't have any other source material to use. The 'Death of Drazil Drewton' header is part of the Early life section. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) *“Raymus Drewton was born in 42 BBY, a year after the birth of his brother Tarisian, on the peaceful planet of Naboo,[1].” Is a comma needed at the end?
 * Fixed. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) *“When they were about to arrive…” They who?
 * Fixed. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron )
 * 1) *Commas are misused throughout the article.
 * I'll look through it again, but could you be more specific? Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) *More later.
 * 2) It has improvement tag, that's really all I can see. It can easily be gotten rid of.--[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) *It's not an improvement tag, exactly, but an advisory because there's major spoilers from a recent chapter. Still, I've remove it for the nomination. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
Drewton, just remove the links from the section titles (from 43 BBY–40 BBY to 43 BBY–40 BBY) for example, as that is breaking one of our rules, and I can support this. &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 03:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've removed the links, but the same rule applies on Wookieepedia, and year links in the section titles are an exception. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Let's go. --  CurrentBigThing  ( Speak ) 17:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Everything looks good now. Nice article, and a good read.  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Paragraphs are a bit short, but it looks fine by me otherwise. --[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Spell cheak finds no incorret grammer. Great article CBT. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 11:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) I have a few minor complaints. First, it needs the GA nomination tag. She's never said to be a Sith, so a Dark Jedi infobox would fit bettter. Additionally, ex-boyfriend sounds unprofessional.  Perhaps "former boyfriend"?  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * One more thing still needs to be fixed. As Victor said, section titles should not be capitilized, besides for the first word of course. Question marks should also be removed. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
There are capitalization errors in pretty much all of the section titles (So make "Battle Of Lehon" into "Battle of Lehon" for example) and the behind the scenes could use clean up and expansion. There are a few grammatical errors, such as lack of apostrophe where needed (such as "Shizu learns of her brothers death"). Once all that is fixed, I can support this. &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 03:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Also, 'Personality & Traits' needs to be 'Personality and traits'. Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 13:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Did what I could, let me know if I missed anything else Vic. I'm not quite sure how else to expand upon a Behind the scenes section either.--  CurrentBigThing  ( Speak ) 13:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Got it.--  CurrentBigThing  ( Speak ) 13:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Drewton's complaints have been addressed.--  CurrentBigThing  ( Speak ) 14:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Drewton's second complaint has been addressed.--  CurrentBigThing  ( Speak ) 17:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well you can talk about how she went into development and talk more about her creation, what inspirations she came from, stuff like that, in a more professional manner (with paragraphs rather than bullet points and without the bolding). It doesn't have to be too long, a 5-6 sentence paragraph would do, so long as it's neat and organized. Everything else seems fine. &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 17:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Cruentus's second GAN. Tom has been through this and I have added finishing touches, and IMO it's GA worthy. Unit 8311 18:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Hopefully Project Cruentus' 2 GA! --[[Image:AndeLeg.jpg|20px]] <font color="Green">Arav (<font color="Green" size="1">talk ) 11:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Now that the corrections have been made, this article is certainly worthy of GA status.
 * 4) Nice article. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 16:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Good article, but most of the quotes are bad. The one at the top was too thick, the ones at "The Svrav landings", "The underwater battle" sections were too goofy to take seriously, the one at "Prelude" was killed by its Vader imitation, et cetera. Regardless, the quotes don't bar this article from GA status as I see it. This project surprises me once again. Keep up the good work. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 22:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) You guys continue to impress me. I agree with MPK, the quotes are a bit different  and have cliché elements, like that "No disintegrations!" bit, but I liked this overall. --[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) The flies in the buttermilk:
 * 2) * Battle of Kothlis (Cruentusian War) I don’t believe that (Cruentusian War) needs to be a part of the intro.
 * 3) *”Kothlis, which was rich in resources and also a strategic point.” Strategic how? Militarily? Economically? Culturally?
 * 4) *”Necasians dug around…” Do you mean ‘’dug in’’?
 * 5) *”Realizing that he had been over reliant on the Zayre somewhat…” Would “Realizing that he had been somewhat over reliant on the Zayre…” sound better?
 * 6) *”Srav soldiers set about modifying the Necasian workshops…” how/why were the Sravs modifying workshops?
 * 7) *”The remaining Necasians on the island holed up at the highest point of the island.” Do you mean “held up?”
 * 8) *“Both the Sravs and the Necasians knew that the island after the next one was the central island of the archipelago, where the main Necasian command centre was located, and Askar knew that if said central island fell, the entire Necasian defense network for the archipelago would collapse and the Sravs could take over with impunity, and he ordered his troops to fight to the death, an order that they did not take to happily.” This sentence seems a bit long to me.
 * 9) *“Taking to the skies, the DarkBirds engaged the Yukels in the sky…” Using skies and sky in the same sentence ''ke this seems a bit repetitive.
 * 10) *“NWD-STI88 anti-air missile launcher s” Typo.
 * 11) *“However, Askars calls for reinforcements were heard by Renard Curl…” I don’t think that however should be used at the beginning of this sentence.
 * 12) *Other than that, this article is pretty good.
 * Sorted all the above. Unit 8311 10:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

 * 1) I'll look at it soon. One thing I can say from looking at it is that the pictures could be a bit bigger, especially the wider ones which should be more than 200px. That's not a reason for oppose, though. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 18:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) This looks promising. I'll study it [the article] this afternoon. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 16:41, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
I believe this complies with the requirements. Cyril Khan 00:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look at this tonight or tomorrow night. --[[Image:Xepeyon.JPG|35px]] You Speak, I've Spoken 19:35, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I will read it soon. I like the character picture. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 11:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Not my work per se, but it looks well-written to me.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *A concern raised in IRC about a lack of regulation on this type of thing appears well-founded. I won't be supporting until that is addressed. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 07:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Per Ataru. No complaints. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) All the links have been fixed, thanks to Michaeldsuarez. Nice looking article. --  JM  76  Ask   Archives  [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|20px]] 21:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) There is no "Personality and traits" section. Even if there was one, I would still oppose this nomination for the simple fact that even if there are no rules against it, articles about real people are not what FAs and GAs are intended for. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *To be fair, there's nothing to suggest that GAs and FAs are not intended for something like this. We already have real-world articles about GAs and FAs. Besides, "Personality and trait" sections are for characters - the requirement about Personality and traits specifically says "the character's said personality". You can't analyze the personality of a real-world person because you didn't make them up. Anyone who writes about the personality of a person without having analyzed the person would be in violation of NPOV because only the real person truly knows their personality. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 20:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **And if some user on here did know enough of Brandon to write a long enough NPOV personality and traits section about him, that would be very strange  Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) *That would be cause for me to get a bit scared, and to frequently look out the window... - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 22:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) I am with MPK on this one. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *If you agree with MPK, then you must also agree with the fact that he's saying that these types of articles aren't intended to be GAs or FAs. Because he hasn't been online and you now are, it's up to you to explain why this is despite the fact that that's not stated anywhere. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 22:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) **It was nice that someone wrote about you. Yes, it does meet the standards of a GA but I don't agree that artilces that are real world and are about a individual, should be a GA. I think that GA's are for fiction, something created that is not real. This is real. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 02:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) ***The Force Exile Series, an article about a real-world story, is a GA. On Wookieepedia, your argument could be used with canon instead of fanon, and there are several real-world GAs and FAs there. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 03:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) ****Hmm. It is not fair to oppose a article that has all the right quality’s for a GA. Also it is not right that I can oppose this because I don't like it. I will strike my oppose and will not vote on this nomination. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 06:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) Well this certainly is new. While I don't necessarily oppose this, and actually have wanted to do something like this for a long time, why would a rule be needed? There are no rules on what kind of fanon you can write, other than no-jokes stuff, so why should there be limitations on who can have a biographical-style article? I mean c'mon, what makes one user higher than the rest? I think all users should be allowed to have a bio-page like this if one can have it, which was created by an IP and not even a user. Anyway, The reason my vote is under oppose is because I have some complaints:
 * 11) *"Main article: ASWS"; Spell it all out. Not that hard.
 * 12) *"Rhea later worked with another individual named Victor Dorantes to incorporate Dorantes' own"; It's "Dorantes's". Proper grammar.
 * 13) **Not necessarily. AdmirableAckbar 13:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 14) *The quote under "Wookieepedia" needs no bolding. It's needless and annoying.
 * 15) *The quote under "Darthipedia" has expletives. I know it's a direct quote, but it's not needed and violates our PG-13 rule.
 * 16) *While not really a complaint, the "Youmay" template is unnecessary. That takes away from the "real" feel of this article.
 * 17) **That's all. &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 23:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 18) ***Just to point out a huge policy loophole, I'm not sure how this violates the PG-13 rule. Not that I'm for gratuitous profanity, but it's a legitimate quote. One, the PG-13 thread was never closed and the policy itself is not official policy. Second, I've been told that the expletive "s**t" has appeared in several "PG-13" rated films. Case in point: Transformers, Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull thingy, to name a few. Third, even if it was an actual policy (and it's not), the proposed policy page says "Do not use common "cuss," "swear," "curse," or "four-letter" words in In-Universe [sic] fanon." (Bolding added for emphasis). This is not "In-Universe" fanon. Moreover, similar profane quotes have been found in other GANs. (See above for that 2nd Cruentus one). They have not drawn the same objection, though in all fairness, you haven't reviewed that yet. I'm not seeing the leg you're standing on here.  Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 04:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 19) ***Also, I checked the Wookieepedia quote and the bolding is present in the original. Mox nix; I'll talk to the author(s) about it. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 04:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 20) Needs a relationships section. AdmirableAckbar 13:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 21) *Not only can you not vote per our policy, but that's not even a requirement. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 16:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

 * I was asked to nominate this by several people in IRC and have done so after reviewing it for them. Definitely looks to be a trend-setter. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not personally opposed to having pages for certain people, as I've thought about this before, but what needs to happen is that there has to be some sort of policy regarding who is able to have pages written about them. Also, that main image wasn't of me, so I removed it. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 19:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I dunno. I mean, this is a fanon wiki, so this would be first actual factual article to go if it passes. And besides, I don't want to look at Rhea's ugly mug on the main page for a week. (just joking )Unit 8311 20:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The Force Exile Series and The Fanon Menace/Season 1, both of which are GAs and the latter of which is already an FA, are factual articles because they cover fan fiction stories. Just because they cover the development, etc. of fanon stories does not mean that they are not factual. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 20:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC) I would agree that it was a glorified user page if I wrote it. The difference is that I didn't, and that someone has taken the time to source information that is available about me. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 20:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, my bad. Fine then, the first factual article on an individual. Still, while I don't massively oppose this, I see only a loose fanon connection, and it vaguely feels like a glorified userpage. Nonetheless, my opinion could go either way now, and some positive comments from others could sway me to vote for it. Unit 8311 20:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't believe whether you wrote it or not makes a difference. You could write an article about yourself with NPOV, and someone else could write it with lots of POV. &mdash;Victor, Sr. «discussion» 23:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)