User talk:Drewton



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Question
Drew, Arav suggested that I start writing up the CUSFWN news bit. While it's pretty obvious that I'm about to be the next co-head, the vote's not yet over, so should I just get stuck in or wait? Unit 8311 Talk!  14:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If I remember correctly, non-co heads have edited in the past, so that's fine. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 15:34, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Check it out. Shall I carry on with the rest? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's great, but since you're not co-head yet I think it would be better if I did the CUSWFN news. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 16:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Operation: Time Mishap

 * Drewton, can you please join Operation: Time Mishap?
 * Sorry, not interested. You haven't really said what it's about. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

ON THE ARTICLE DISCUSSION PAGE!! Sorry, excuse my impatience. :)
 * Yes, well, actually I have.
 * Even what's on the talk page is still pretty vague. I'd need more information than that to consider joining. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 22:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok. Here's some more info. Post ideas for this operation on my user talk page. Then if it is highly detailed, I will except it and I shall post permission on your talk page. Jedi Vilxi (Talk) 22:34, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not more information on it, that's me making ideas. I wouldn't even know what to make for this since I don't really know specifically what it's about. Simply timetravel isn't enough and I'm not fond of that idea either. By "now", do you mean Earth times? Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 22:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

No, not Earth timetravel. I mean to the present SW era. Jedi Vilxi (Talk) 22:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Which is? Star Wars isn't in the present. "A long time ago, in the galaxy far, far away..." Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 22:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh, never mind, you win. Look's like I know ur not joinin'! Jedi Vilxi (Talk) 22:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason I'm not joining is because I don't really know what this is about. You haven't given enough information. Otherwise I might be interested depending on what it was. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright, there's my website, www.freewebs.com/velix98. There may be some tech ideas there... sorry for the inconvenience... Jedi Vilxi (Talk) 00:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Addiat
I am allowed to edit Addiat, since I'm only changing the wording of some sentences to make more sense. If I edited sentences with POV, or anything more than I've done now, than it would not be okay. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 22:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, there's something that's been bothering me (mind you, it isn't just you that's doing doing this. There are a handful). I noticed that some of your objections just say "add a comma here" or "add a quotation mark here". While I respect you and am not telling you how to do your job, I think it would be more beneficial to simply fix the mistake, which would take all of 15 seconds at most, and only list the stronger objections, and/or the ones that you are unable to fix. This would make it a lot easier to focus on the more major flaws of an article. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 22:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, it's certainly great that you're trying to improve it, I was just wondering. If you've corrected any of the current objections, could you please say so and specify which ones on the GA page? The main reason I don't usually correct mistakes myself that I point out is because it's during the time of the nomination, and so I leave that up to the nominator, though I may fix minor mistakes like that in the future. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 22:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: KOTOR
OMG YES! --Victor talk 03:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I hope it's only partially a MMO, because a report a few months ago said that there was a "MMO component to it". This would also ensure that it would be on PC. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've found an invatation to the unveiling of the game. If you look closely, the cloaked figure in the image looks very much like Revan with the same armor design. "...the game that's been rumored about for years". That's certainly not a non-KOTOR 3 MMO. Hopefully the reports of a MMO are just a brilliant attempt to make us think they're working on a KOTOR MMO instead of KOTOR 3 in case of leaks, or the reports are just confused because of two KOTOR games. If this is KOTOR, I expect it be released in Fall 2010, as that's when the novel's being released. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 01:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely Revan. I took a screenshot of him, darkened it, and added it to the poster for comparison. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah man, I was reading about that all morning. Purely awesome! --Victor talk 03:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Antrell pictures
Hey, Drewton. Still excited about the KotOR news? :)

Anyway, I've a quick question for you. Regarding your Narod Antrell pictures, such as the here, what exactly did you use to make them? I noticed you said something about Jedi Academy on Vic's talk page, but I didn't think you could create such detailed characters. (To be honest, I didn't know you could create custom characters at all....) // ~mikah~  19:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, very much! Even if it's a MMO. For Narod, I retextured an Anakin Skywalker model made by another person. You can get into Jedi Academy's pk3 files with a program called PakSpace, and I test my edits with ModView. You can find more about those and other mods here. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 20:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, I had a feeling. After all, it's only been a few days since we last talked about it. (By the way, I agree with ya, Vic. RPG over MMO for me any day, though I am curious as to how the latter would work out. Guess I'll just have to wait to find out.) And thanks for the link; my computer's been having problems, but I'll look into it and see if I can't make anything less than awesome myself. :) // ~mikah~  20:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * One last question, if you don't mind: do you need to have the Jedi Academy game(s) installed? Because I don't own any of them, nor know anyone personally who does. // ~mikah~  20:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I too am excited about KotOR 3, regardless if its MMO (but of course I'd prefer single player RPG). But anyway, about the Narod Antrell skin, that's pretty cool. Keep me updated. :) --Victor talk 20:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * By the way, I prefer links rather than having to copy/paste. If you look on my talk page, I reformatted the links to the pics. If you don't mind, I'd prefer them in that fashion so I may more easily access them. Thanks. :) --Victor [[Image:Vic sig logo.png|15px]] talk 20:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I usually do them like that. I thought I'd done something wrong...anyways, here's another. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 20:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. :P --[[Image:Darth tom sig.png|100px]] (talk) (contributions) 17:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, that last mod image is getting there. Did you use my face for the mod as a skin? Because those look like my eyebrows :P. Anyway, just curious as to how the mod was coming along, that's all. --Victor talk 02:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL, yes. I've now made the model's hair the same as yours, and retextured the Jedi robes as the ones you have. Unfortunately, I might not be able to show any screenshots for a while, because the monitor on the computer I was working on burnt out today. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I knew it! Anyway, that's fine, I hope I just eventually get to see them. --Victor talk 02:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if I don't get another monitor this week, I'll likely just use another old monitor I have for it. When it's done, I'll hopefully be able to have it for download so you'll be able to play as Narod (yourself) in JK3, assuming you have it. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Would the mod work for the Mac version? --Victor talk 02:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know about that...if there's assets1.pk3, assets2.pk3, etc., it will probably work. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hm, well I'm hoping it does. If not, you can always come to the rescue and gimme some screenshots :P --Victor talk 02:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, good then. --Victor [[Image:Vic sig logo.png|15px]] talk 16:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Ban objection
May I ask why you banned HatedNProud82 so hastily? While I agree that it's necessary to ban those who do not source images due to copyright laws, we still have policies that we, as Administrators, need to follow. For that reason, I direct you to the Image Policy where you will find this: "If it is not used and a user does not correct the breach of policy within twenty-four hours of an Administrator warning them, the image will be deleted." He was not given the twenty-four hour warning as required by this policy. In fact, he's only been a member for seven hours, making that impossible. Please unban this user. Thank you. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC) Your reasoning would seem to make sense, but you still need to apply the twenty-four hours. Unfortunately for Administrators like us with trigger fingers for certain things, that twenty-four hours is essentially a blanket. You can upload images without sources within that twenty-four hours so long as they're sourced at the end of the twenty-four hours. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC) The second offense is in regards to failing to source your images after twenty-four hours which in turn means that the images in question were deleted. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC) It has never ever been applied that way, but because I obviously won't convince you I'll bow out on a minor yet disagreeable technicality. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 19:27, 15 October 2008 (UTC) Still, HatedNProud82 should be banned, according to the "gaming the system" clause of Star Wars Fanon:Don't disrupt Star Wars Fanon to make a point. If he's just going to wait to source a hundred images, then he's taking advantage of the 24-hour thing at the expense of the site. -- Michaeldsuarez  ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 19:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't block him for failure to source previously uploaded images, but for continuing to upload unsourced images after being warned twice. I am, of course, giving him an extended time to source his already uploaded image. There seems to be a Wikia bug, though, because he's somehow continuing to edit/upload after being blocked. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 19:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing is said about giving 24 hours to source the images until the user is blocked. "If it is not used and a user does not correct the breach of policy within twenty-four hours of an Administrator warning them, the image will be deleted." That's talking about how long is given for sourcing until the image is deleted, not that the user will be banned if it's not sourced within 24 hours. In this section of the same policy, it says that the user will be blocked upon second offence to follow the policy. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 19:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not specifically said by the policy. "The first time a user breaks the policy, they will be warned that they have failed to follow the policy and that the next time it happens they will be blocked for a certain amount of time and their images will be deleted." The only thing that the 24 hour limit is said to specifically apply to is for image deletion. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 19:26, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You can start a discussion for it in the Senate Hall if you want. Also, it appears the block didn't actually work anyway, as he's uploaded three more images since his "ban". Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 19:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Bah, I attempted to reblock him to see if that would make it work and he's uploaded yet another image. Must be a MediaWiki problem (and a major one if it is). Drewton  ( Drewton's Holocron ) 19:42, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Darth Abeonis edits
Thank you Drewton. I'm only online briefly, but I must say I'm surprised you're doing this, especially considering it isn't even your article. Once again, thank you. Darth Abeonis Sith Council Sith Campaign 23:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. There were a few objections previously that there were some Mary Sue-ish elements in the article, but hopefully that won't be the case when I nominate it since it's not really my article, and I won't be able to address those. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: Narod Antrell
I like the clothing, looks great, very close to the real thing. Nice work. As for the face, it's no big deal, as long as the skin tone and basic features are the same/close (which they should be considering you used my face for the texture). Lastly, is it possible to adjust the hair? It would be cool if you could get it to be like Narod Antrell's main image, but if not, that's possible. Also though, would it be possible to add some stubble around his sideburns and his chin? :P --Victor talk 17:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The frustrating thing about editing JK3 textures is that they're distorted...so when you retexture models, you have to distort whatever you're adding to it, and the image file doesn't even look close to what it should be because of that. The reason I used the shorter hair was because it was more Jedi-like, but I can attempt to make a variation with that kind of hair. I actually did add the stuble, it's just not very noticeable at that angle. Anyways, I tried the model in-game, and unfortunately most of the detail is lost. :( Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, with Strata 3D CX, placing textures anew means you have to adjust everything manually to fit the model, and as you can see on the couple of 3D models I uploaded the other day, they don't come out too well. Well, the Obi-Wan model I textured came out well, but Antrell's didn't so much (artifacts are noticeable and annoying, plus I had to touch it up in Photoshop anyway). As for the hair, don't worry, as I said it's fine, mostly because I did have my hair short anyway. And about the in-game loss, dang. --Victor talk 17:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: Your message to Vic
I didn't say it was a personal attact; I just told him to consider the feelings of the author. -- Michaeldsuarez  ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 20:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC) It wasn't an unoffical warning. Anyway, judgments should be left on talk pages and reviews, not on the page's history; you can't discuss the judgment on the history. -- Michaeldsuarez  ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 20:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC) Alright, sorry for the trouble. -- Michaeldsuarez  ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 20:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You seemed to be implying that, and giving the message as if it were an official warning. And, I hate to sound apathetic, but this is a wiki, not a community site or forum. When users put content on here they should expect it to be judged, and to be judged honestly. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 20:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Why not? There isn't anything that says they should be on talk pages more or less than in the history, so Victor wasn't wrong in doing what he did. Anyways, I don't think this can really be discussed any further. Let's just leave it if you want. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 20:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Another pic
Could you get me this picture for my Darth Nazure article?Mattkenn3 (Talk) 21:07, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. Just so you know, unlike the BMP images, you can indeed upload JPGs. Anyways, here it is. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 21:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops, wasn't paying attention. Thank you anyway.Mattkenn3 (Talk) 21:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Just to let you, I truly do appreciate all of the work you've done around here, both in your articles and community-wise. Just wanted to let you know that it doesn't go unnoticed. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 23:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 23:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Main Page reminder

 * This is just a reminder about the main page redesign to incorporate the new FW box. It's still weeks from needing to be done, so there's no hurry&mdash;just wanted to put that bug into your ear. ;-) Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I'm late. Hopefully I can do it tomorrow. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 02:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

CUSFWN
Now that I'm Co-Dictator of CUSFWN, I guess it's okay for me to get stuck in filling it in? Unit 8311 Talk!  16:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 16:47, 18 October 2008 (UTC)