Talk:New Confederacy of Independent Systems


 * Please do not edit this article without my permission,but if you have any ideas please post them here.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 13:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

FA standards
Since this article has been nominated for FA a few times, this is what I would recommend. First, The section on the rise of the New CIS can't be covered from its founding to its reorganization 22 years later. You have to include wars, its involvement with other governments, and its stability. You then have to cover what happened after its reorganization in 11 ABY, followed by more details until we come to its decline and fall.

For the Poltics section you could expand both the details of the Head of State and Separatist Council, and other leading authorities. The military section looks good, maybe another paragraph or two. Since the new CIS couldn't have just one war in its entire history (unless it was a peaceful mercantile government, which I doubt), so the War section could be added to the History section.

You could also include (optional, but could help) an economy section, an astrography section, and a section about its dealings with other governments. With all that and a few more pictures, I'm certain it would become FA. -- Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library  00:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm going to add that.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 00:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool
Your page is cool. It would take me forever to make a page that big and with all of those links. Maybe we could combine our forces to rule the galaxy! (make suggestions on each other's pages). General Grham 12:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

K, not sure you need to add all of it, but if you add most of it, it should be fine. -- Talk to an Admin Mind Trick Jedi Library


 * Well im going to add economy section and add some to the politics,but there is only one big war,it just lasted for many years.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 00:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea.General Grham 12:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I know,I added more to the polotics and war.But I wonder when I add the planets it wont hert the page.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 12:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Why did the New CIS reorganize and fragment before it was established?


 * oops my bad,TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 15:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I fixed it, dont worry.&mdash;[[Image:DTylerSig.gif|150px]] Contact the GDE GDE's conquests The cantina[[Image:Kuat Systems Engineering.jpg|25px]] 15:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks,I got all mixed up with the time and junk.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 15:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Now?TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 21:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Lalala

 * Would you like New CIS or Troyb (or both) to be in Mysteries of a Distant System: Exile?  N@M3Le$ I know how to talk! Journal [[Image:Namelesennius.jpg|30px]] Namelesennius(Mysteries of a Distant System: Exile) 16:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 19:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I take that as "both"...  N@M3Le$ I know how to talk! Journal [[Image:Namelesennius.jpg|30px]] Namelesennius(Mysteries of a Distant System: Exile) 19:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, tyler too of course TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb.jpg|20px]] 19:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey was Zakkoroen allowed to add S'leezof & Meel-Dorpe to your article?  N@M3Le$ I know how to talk! Journal Namelesennius(Mysteries of a Distant System: Exile) 16:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * No.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 14:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Editing others fanon without permission!  N@M3Le$  | Talk  | Contributions | MoaDS | Namelesennius [[Image:Namelesennius.jpg|25px]] 15:04, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well I dont remember giving him permission.TroybTalk contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 15:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

You've been critiqued!
-- Don Victor, Sr.  ( Commission Room ) 01:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * ....TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|30px]] 20:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

A suggestion...
The article is on the whole not bad and much better than it once was, but I have one suggestion that in my opinion would make it better. Perhaps you could give the New CIS a few major defeats, because right now it seems like a Mary-Sueish invincible Empire thing that wins every battle. I'm not asking you to make it become totally dissolved, I mean just give it one or two major losses, that's all. It would make the article much more believeable and better that way. Thanks, Unit 8311Talk! 16:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmm well Darthtyler mostley does the battles, I do most of the goverment and political stuff. Tell him that. anyways do you think this should stay GA?TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 16:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, for the time being. Unit 8311Talk! 16:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I would agree with Unit. These guys need to lose once and awhile. That's what makes this article so completely unrealistic. They operate for 10,000 years without opposition and never lose a battle? Impossible. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  17:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, a government that big and powerful would have the rest of the galaxy opposing it.  Prime Minister Wing  ( Parliament )


 * Well tyler put up a loss for us(Cry) And some fanon can be impossible Rhea, take tylers article for example.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 19:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll use a different word for impossible to describe a government that never loses, then: unrealistic. However, even with this new loss, it's still kind of rediculous. They lose a battle because Tyler loses his lightsaber? Tyler orders a retreat because he lost his lightsaber? That can either make Tyler a total Mary Sue or a complete coward. Either way, it makes Darth Tyler look bad. - President Brandon Rhea [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  19:34, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but am I not allowed an opinion? Am I not allowed to make suggestions to an article that clearly has potential but never seems to live up to it? Sorry for trying to be helpful. I'll never do it again. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  19:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well tyler wrote it... but we will conribute to the battles more in the following weeks, and I'll buy tyler a new lightsaber...again.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 19:36, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine, what the heck? Nothing's ever good enough for you, is it Rhea? I've completely changed my ways in order to become a HP, yet I still have to do more. And when I do that, I'm going to have to do more. And now, with this, I can't even write a battle without you saying something. What the hell? I have no clue what's your problem with Tyler losing his lightsaber, Windu did in Star Wars: Clone Wars, and I know that most of you guys like Windu. I don't see anything wrong with Tyler losing the battle because he lost his lightsaber. Tyler provides the most support for his troops, as Vader and the Emperor do, and the GDE could probably not go on with out Tyler commanding them and helping them.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 19:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I had added two battles, which probably still isn't good enough.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 19:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I think its great of you tyler, I appreciate it tyler, thank you.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 19:59, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Troyb. Brandon, its not that you suggested it. Its that when I had fulfilled your request, you have another request. It gets so freaking annoying.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 20:00, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I requested nothing. I'm making suggestions. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  20:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine. I guess we have two different meanings of suggestion. Also, sorry for gettin all angry like that, I seriously didn't mean to do that...&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 20:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Sheesh, calm down both of you. Brandon, at least Tyler tried to improve the article. Unit 8311 20:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I can't believe you said that, Unit, considering it was my rewrites that made this a GA in the first place. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  20:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No offense, Brandon, you can undo your rewrites if you feel that bad about it. I'll just do the same exact thing.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 20:09, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I will, because clearly my work is not appreciated. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  20:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Dont undo anything!TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 20:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Trooyb, if he does it, I have you covered.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 20:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Calm down, everyone. Brandon, I appreciate your work, so don't be too hasty. Unit 8311 20:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Please dont undo youre-writes.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 20:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll leave my rewrites, so long as you guys don't get your panties in a bunch the next time I make a damn suggestion. - President Brandon Rhea [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  20:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Please watch your language. Also, a suggestion is a request.&mdash; Darthtyler http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/1/18/Scuba_Diver.gif Talk 20:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Lets stop fighting on my articles talk page please and thank you.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 20:18, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

How does it end?
This government rules for 10,000 years? How does it end? Ajrand (Signal) 00:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Who says it does. But the truth is, I havent got that far ahead, but I got some ideas cooking up.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 13:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

All governments end, that's why it does. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  16:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I know that. But it rules for a thousand years, and once I die, tyler rules for the next few years.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 20:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * A thousand years or ten thousand years? Either way, if a government is strong enough to be in power for that long, you would think something really big would have to happen to break it up. Ajrand (Signal) 22:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Well whatever it says there is right, anyways it never broke up, ever.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 01:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Thereby making this story even more unrealistic than it already is. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  02:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow. So after Troyb dies, Darth Tyler rules...forever? Ajrand (Signal) 03:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No, we havent really gotten that far ahead. And Rhea thank you for voicing your opinion, but I'm talking to Ajrand, not you. Besides, its fanon anything is possible, my fanon has canon in it so i dediced to add some Tyler-type fanon into it.TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 14:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You still have to be realistic or it's just going to be a Mary Sue organization. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom)   (Accomplishments)  17:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No it wont, In the world of fanon, anything is possible, Droids can be sith, Governments can rule forever, a block of cheese can have a lightsaber. All I'm trying to say is that my government is realistic, but that ending is realistic, fanon wise(Yes it is).TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 18:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

FA
If you ever want this to be an FA, add the following sections: Legislative Branch, Executive Branch, Judicial Branch, and Economy. Maybe even renaming "Rise of the New CIS" to "Rise of the New Confederacy of Independent Systems" and slicing it up into sub sections and slicing up War in sub sections too. Xwing327 15:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * To be fair, thats your opinion. He could expand it without those sections and it could still be good. Dexington 15:40, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, maybe I should have said that was my opinion. Xwing327 15:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Well its ok, I like those ideas. First off, My government is mostly known as new CIS, take to much space to write all that. Next We talk all about the government and its politics already. Also I hate the look of sub sections, I perfer what I have, also the reason I havent been working on this is becuase I'm starting to work over at Halopedia so I'll see if I get time. Also Do you agree with Rheas comment saying about this article?TroybAllSpark Quest contribs[[Image:MovieBlack.JPG|10px]] 16:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)