Forum:Project Cruentus/12

Further discussion
Okay. While tom's adding his part to Kothlis and Tahu, I had an idea to start off year 3: the Necasians gain intelligence that the Sravs are up to something on some obscure planet. Jarn is sent to investigate, and discovers a Srav research facility where the Reds are making a little something that they hope will tip the balance of the war. This will prompt the Necs to start work on their own toy. In short, if Year 1 was the Year of the Hell Breaking Loose, Year 2 was Year of the Cruelty, then Year 3 will be Year of the Superweapons. In other words, the factions will all be bringing out their REALLY big guns. Thoughts? Unit 8311 (Talk) 17:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * All good. Year 4 would be, Year of Destruction (for me). Just letting you guys know, Tom and I discussed what was going to happen on the last battle of the Cruentusian War! I think it should involve the four main factions (Nec,Srav,DTM and not Zayre, the Zayre survive the war) and the Republic (Mav's new faction after the LO die out) and the Rakatan Empire. We can make a 5-way Battle. I will try to make one . I think in the last battle, we all find the Rakatan Empire on the planet of (make up one, we could make that planet a GA and maybe a FA). All factions (except for Rebublic and Zayre) are looking for the Rakata. The main factions picked up massive power levels on that planet. They all come as fast as they can. All factions fight in a Space battle over the planet. Necs start to shoot nucleor missiles at factions ships and so are the Sravs. DTM make a bold move and self-destruct one of there frigates. This explosion knocked out some faction ships power, and they crashed into the planets surface and water. DTM then quickly land on the planet with their entire fleet of 25 frigates, 200 ships and 2 command ships. Necs then also land with 32 frigates, 300 ships and 3 command ships. Sravs also with 42 command ships, 500 ships and 6 command. This is because I want to make the previous battle, the Ice world battle I wrote about to Tom and Unit. The Necs in that one lose a lot of men and ships, DTM same, but not as many casualties and the Sravs have minimal casualties and win that battle because they do not escape like the Nec and DTM. Back to last battle. Necs find DTM and they fight. Necs sent scouts and they find a huge complex, a power station. The Sravs then send in 50 elite troops and 5 sabotages to infiltrate the station. The rest of the necs then set up guns and mines around a large area 5 KMs away from the station and 15 Km away from the Necs and DTM. Meanwhile, the Republic turns up with a fleet of 15 command ships and frigates. They decide not to land but so stay in space and stop the faction below from escaping. When while, the Necs and DTM leaders find each other and then call off their troops and make a truce to defeat the Sravs and Rakata, then fight for glory another time. They both hunt down the Sravs. Meanwhile the Srav elite force is found, and a battle occurred in the station. The Rakata find the Sravs and they fight. The NM-DTM see the Srav battle the Rakata and also see the power station. They go around the battle and infiltrate the station. They kill all the Rakata scientists, and find a human called Mical Solist. He is questioned by the NM-DTM about what the station is for. The station is the first of the 15 stations to be built on the planet, to make enough power to power the Star Forge! The NM-DTM then capture the scientist and then record all of the information he can give on a holodisk. After that he is killed. A alarm is sounded and the NM-DTM escape the building to their ships. The Srav and Rakata battle, Srav escape to ships. Then the Necs capture some lone Necs and question them. The necs find out what is going on, on the planet. All factions get in ships. They then leave the planet and go into space. They find the Republic there. All factions fight. Suddenly, a large beem of light shoots up from the planet and blows up 15 of the 42 Srav frigates. The beam kept shooting. The republic make a bold move and bomb the area where the beam is coming from. The beam then stops and a huge explosion happens on the planet. It takes out almost all of the Repubic fleet. Then the huge Rakata fleet comes and fires beams at the factions. Their fleet is massive. 2 times the fleet of the Sravs and Republic fleet put together. The factions all escape into the planets and fight there. Then the factions find a larger power complex and it has 20 very large containers glowing. The Factions fight over it. They all know (but the Republic) what is can achieve. The all fight for the power of a incomplete star forge. Sravs take out the DTM frigates and fire upon the DTM command ship. The DTM then make a bold move to sacrifice themselves so the other factions dont get power. But before they self-destruct, a lone ship flys in, its Gan Gan. He then fires at the station and 15 of the 20 barrels blow up. Thus takes out the entire DTM fleet and half of all fleets. They all then keep fighting, until a Srav frigate is shot down and crashes into the station. (One open flame or spark would literally blow the planet up. Then the Rakata escape the battle, the Rebublic chase them. The Necs and Sraves are left. The leaders of the 2 factions call a cease fire because the whole planet could blow up. Then a group of ground troopers of Rakata, throw a grenade onto the station rubble. The Necs and Sravs immediately try to jump to light speed in fear of not escaping in time. Dumb move, the ships let out open flames from there rockets and the planet does not blow up but the combination of the power stations on the planet, the open large open gas in the air and the light speed power, turn the planet into a block hole. All factions are dead except for Rakata, Republic and Zayre and the small factions. What do you think? Arav the Undersith  (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 02:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a couple of holes in the plot line (such as the Star Forge being made during the battle, when IIRC it was made before the fall of the Infinite Rakatan Empire; and the fact that a black hole was made), but I think it could work. Although I agree with Unit, let's leave this for another discussion, as it is too early for this. Oh, and sorry I've been away. Anything I've missed, or need to do? Darth mavoc (Talk) 11:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Er, that's all very well Arav, but to be honest it's a bit too early to start thinking about the last battle. There's all sorts of character development among people like Jarn, Vergulva etc that could have an effect on this. I say we leave any ideas about the end until we come to that bridge. In any case, to avoid all that time you spent typing that going to waste, we could use that idea above for a year 4 battle. I'm not sure about getting the Rakata involved, though. Anyway, is it all right if I start the Jarn infiltration mission, tom? Unit 8311 (Talk) 10:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've taken the liberty of starting the Jarn mission, and with it year three. We are now officially halfway through! (the war, anyway) Keep up the good work, everyone, and the end will be in sight before we know it! Unit 8311 (Talk) 20:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope this Project will never end. I think we need another DTM battle. Unit: How would you and I make a battle? I have ideas of my faction attacks Sviat to bomb the world into dust and claim any weapons they could find? We could make the first world to have more than 2 battles on it. Battle of Sviat (Cruentusian War), Mission to Sviat (Cruentusian War and the Third Battle of Sviat (Cruentusian War. Sabsa Junn is getting tired off peace and wants their soldiers to be more battle savvy. Instead of just attacking some SF world, why not attack the main Srav world? So the DTM invade the planet with their new troops trained on, new armada of ships made by the Simiyar Tech people and the more experienced troopers. The first battle, DTM blast away at SF power stations. SF immediately retaliates with large force. This then leaves to a mid air battle. Meanwhile, Sabsa Junn and many experienced DTM commando's make their way into the main house of politics. The commandos and Sabsa are called Death's Knock Squadron or DKS. They make there way in, to find some heads of SF arguing about how to plan a large assault on the main core worlds. DKS silently kill troopers inside and block off all points of entry and exit to the building. Then the DKS move in quickly shotting at anything that moved. Immediately, all politicians and heads of the SF pull out weapons and fire back from their desks. The head of State and commander in chief of the SF are in the building too. DKS managed to kill most of the politicians. Jasef manages to kill some DKS. Back to the mid air assault, DTM frigates manage to press on and attack some cities and towns of the SF. Back at the Government house, DKS quickly move out the building and are surrounded by SF men in a gas room. They are captured. DTM fleet manage to destroy 8 of the 20 cities in Sviat. Word has been put in that Sabsa had been captured and large Frigates are closing in. SF makes a drastic decision to detonate a large nuclear bomb. This bomb blows up 8 of the 24 frigates. DTM get a signal from Sabsa to Quia to get all DTM forces out of Sviat and retreat to the many moons of the Sviat system. DTM do this and Jasef does not order any SF ships to follow them. The SF is happy with their capture of Sabsa and many commandos. What do you think so far? (I have just made suggestions to do with the SF and their planets and men). --Arav the Undersith  (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 09:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I really like the effort you're putting in these battle plans, Arav. However, I think that going as far as to launch an assault on the Srav homeworld, which is after all going to be chock-a-block with defences, would be too far, even for the DTM. I also think that DTM space and air presence should be very minimal (at this stage of the war, anyway). But that doesn't mean you should stop. Oh, and if the Project were to never end, the bandwidth of the internet would soon be overloaded by the sheer size of it. In any case, I also had an idea for a new DTM battle: the DTM notes that a planet with much resources and industry is planning to sign up with the Sravs to produce hardware for them. Not too keen with this, Sabsa has a DTM terror cell established on said planet, and eventually Krennel provides them with a new weapon which they detonated in part of the planet's main city. Realising the problem, Srav Hammer troops head over to the city and battle DTM militants, eventually driving them away and defusing a second bomb. However, the planet is now having second thoughts about abandoning neutrality, so in a way the DTM have still won. Thoughts? EDIT: To avoid all that work typing that above going to waste, I'm going to say that I like the idea of the DTM Death's Knock Squadron (although I think we should just call them the Death's Knock Assassins). Here's a pic we could use for them. Unit 8311 (Talk) 15:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. DKA it is. The picture would be used for one of the 10 people. I want each person in the team to be individuals. I will make the articles now. NOTE: Article for improvement has not been updated. I propose we make this article the next AFI. Unit battle wise: Cool. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 08:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool. Here's a few more pics you could use for them:, , . I'd also recommend giving them Arab-ish names. Also, I'll put one of the survivors of your Insane Planet-Making Spree, Benmossia, to use for the next battle. (edit: there) And as for AFI, seeing as most here have barely bothered to add anything to articles put up, I don't see much point in it being here, but if we have to choose a new article, I wouldn't go with the actual war article, considering the war still isn't over. I'd choose a random obscuro-character: Elmakan comes to mind. Unit 8311 (Talk) 15:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I have an idea for tom: for the next battle, I think we should have a group of Srav troops stumbling on Ankarr. Discovering the Zayre, they promptly go on an orgy of destruction, burning farms and villages. Ironwings is forced to use the Zayre Worship Crystal (you can come up with a better name), which is a result of studying the Hand of Darkness, to repel the Sravs. However, she and Redharn have a feeling they'll be back. Thoughts? Unit 8311 (Talk) 17:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Nice. I have noticed that Odysseas-spartan-53 wants to join. As the box above states, we as the PC community mustvote on this.

--Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I want to know what this guy intends to contribute before I say anything. If he wants to completely rewrite the project, then maybe we should give it a second thought. To be perfectly honest, I really don't know what to say. Let's see if tom has an opinion. Unit 8311 (Talk) 14:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I want to work on small articles, just to help the project grow. I am not very good on writing but I highly improved my skills on writing fanons the last weeks. How do you want to prove this to you?Odysseas-spartan-53 15:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, I really don't know. We do have a lot of small articles that could do with expansion, but you have to bear in mind that we have some fairly strict continuity and rules around here. Ultimately, I guess there's no solid reason why you couldn't join, but again, let's hear what tom has to say. Unit 8311 (Talk) 16:18, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Um... Arav? Did you ask me before doing this? No. Because of this, there's going to be no vote on whether he's in or not until he messages me with what ideas he has for the Project, and then I'll decide whether or not to put it to community or not. Arav, please do not ever do something like this without asking me again. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 17:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit, if you could come onto the IRC next time you have a moment, please, I'd like to discuss this with you. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 17:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why he couldn't join, since this Project was created to bring the community together anyway. -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 21:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry Tom, really sorry. (I was sliping back to my old ways :p). --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * To be fair, Tom, you really can't decide on your own whether or not something should be put up for a vote of the PC community. This project can't have a leader that dictates this sort of thing or else it starts becoming a clan. Can there be an unofficial leader and a figurehead? Sure, but you really shouldn't be dictating this sort of thing. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 22:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to be deciding on my own. I will consult with the other PC members, in time. And his work hasn't particularly impressed me, but I'm still willing to give him a chance to come up with ideas. I'll notify you lot after I get a few replies from Spartan-53. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 16:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm a solid oppose unless he has any big ideas that could make this Project much better. Just generally improving articles (grammar, spelling and the like) can be done anyway, by any users. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 16:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

When you guys say an article is up for improvement, does that mean anyone can add information(and not remove any of course) or is it just grammar and spelling?-- Lord Bender Nightmare975  17:52, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Oppose: I'm not particularly impressed by such articles written by said author as Dune, and I don't feel his new faction would particularly benefit the Project; if we allow someone like this in, we'll have to allow in everyone wanting to come in with some small scale faction, something that would make the Project cluttered and mean that we get a lesser standard of articles. If he comes up with a better idea in the future maybe, but otherwise no. -- <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 19:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Please, give me a chance. I want to make a minor slave faction that will take part on few battles. Odysseas-spartan-53 12:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It means it's just grammar and spelling, unless you receive permission from the author or something. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 18:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to add content, you have my permission. And tom, why did you remove the leg section from Kothlis? It was perfectly fine. Unit 8311 (Talk) 19:04, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't? I just moved it to go after the Aftermath section. And it's now time to discuss whether we allow entrance to Odysseas-spartan-53 or not; he wants to create an organization of mercenaries and slaves which he plans to try and ally with the Sravs. My vote:
 * Oh...so you did, my bad. In any case, the BTS now needs expanding, and then the Lords of the FAN will be satisfied (for a bit, anyway). As for the vote, well I'd actually like to see an article on said faction, with a bit of detail, before I make a judgement. It sounds like some genero merc-faction to me, so I have doubts. Perhaps he could make it as a userpage or put a note concerning the canonity in a BTS. And as for allying with the Sravs, I personally feel that the Sravs would simply assimilate them rather than ally if they're a small fac. Unit 8311 (Talk) 19:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I think we have got the project running smoothly and we dont need any new factions. Per Tom. Also Unit, how about you and me write a battle together? Thoughts? --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 05:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to. I had an idea for another DTM attack, where their new Death's Knock Assassins infiltrate a Necasian world and destroy a dam, flooding a nearby Necasian base and allowing DTM militants to rampage around before the Necasians eliminate them with orbital napalm bombardment (but of course the DKA survive). Of course, if you've got a different idea I'd be glad to hear it. Also, what do you think of my new sig?  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  15:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You did not even have to ask, it is mad! For your idea: Better than my one:p, lets do that together. Also, I will be much more active as school holidays starts tomorrow!.--<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Could we please start the battle after I make the DKA article and the assasians. Why not you make the DKA article and come up with 5-10 names and I make the articles for them? Thoughts? --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Arav: fine, I'll make the Death's Knock Assassins article now. (EDIT: There. Would you like me to start some of the characters?) Spartan: sorry, but unless you do something to turn the general consensus around, it looks like the general opinion here is that another faction isn't necessary. Why don't you make a draft of your faction article on a user subpage, and then I'll come to a conclusion and seal the debate. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  12:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sort of with Unit on this. I'll reserve my decision until after he shows me/us what ideas he has, and how it could be integrated into the overall network of continuity we've built up. I won't go over anyone's head and say it'll get you in Odysseas, but it'll get a yes from me if I think you pass this little "test" of sorts. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page (or here) of what you think you could bring. Darth mavoc (Talk) 13:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

@Unit: lovely. I like it alot. @Everyone else, but more specifically Unit: I'm going away for 4+ days, so if you need to ask me something or need me to do something, please leave a message on my talk page. I'll hopefully get back to you as soon as I get back. Thanks. Darth mavoc (Talk) 09:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Unit: I will make the articles for the people. Perhaps you would like to supply the info box image for me after I create the article. I will first simply add about 2-3 sentences to the article and an info box, and could you then add a image that you see fits the person? Thanks. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 22:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Images added. And what say you that we stage the next battle on one of your Crazy Planet Survivors, Xandore? EDIT: To tom, I've noticed we've neglected another important thing: how Redharn looks like. Here's something I found we could use: SECOND EDIT: To Mav, United Coalition of Worlds has been created. Thoughts on the insignia? :)  Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  16:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Mav: cool. Arav: DKA's entry is started. Tom: If you didn't catch what I posted on IRC, I can repost it here (in greater detail if you have seen it). Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  19:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)