User talk:Darth Vacatour

MaulYoda 20:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

See the main page for The First Wiki Awards

Wiki Awards Commitee
Good idea Vacatour. As for what it would cover, we should probably include featured article, UOTW, improvement drive, wiki awards, which we should change to monthly, etc. Anyway, I\'m in. MaulYoda

yes but the wiki awards are pretty big. i mean user of the week is kind of my only problem. the winner of article of the year should get featured article but user of the week? how about at least like user of the month. or we could do user of the year? Also one of the nominated article that didnt make it and wasn\'t the best will be the improvement drive. I really think we should either upgrade Article of the year winner to either User of the month or user of the year since its such a big event. Also we need a lot more nominees. At least four for each category and only one Author per each. It wont matter if its a diffrent article the author of that article can only be nominated once per each category- Darth Vacatour

How about the winner of Article of the Year gets the prize of Best Writer? That could be mentioned on something other than User of the Week on the Main Page. C3PO the Dragon Slayer 17:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

the article of the year writers may be nominated but there are no guarantees.we need more nominees for each category though!

If we don\'t have any nominees in just certain categories by Friday, could we drop the categories, but still hold the event? C3PO the Dragon Slayer 20:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC) P.S. Could you sign your name using ~ ? It\'s easier to tell who wrote the message. Could I join this Wiki Awards Commitee also?

very well C3P0 the dragon slayer is now a part of the Wiki Awards comitee. but before you do anything you must tell me since i am the Wiki Awards Chairman and host for this year! - Darth Vacatour

Agreed. One thing I ask is about the Article of the Year and Best Article. Could these be made the same? Or does Article of the Year imply something different from being the \"best,\" and focus on something different? C3PO the Dragon Slayer 20:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Where will this be saved, as I won\'t be able to attend, unfortunetely.

first it will be saved on the First Wiki Awards Page. A link is on my user page and the main page. Also Article of the Year is like the all time article for this year. Best Article wouuld simply be runneer up. Everyone who won a award will receive permission to get one of those medals and a user box saying this user won so so award. Right now I want you and MaulYoda to tell people to get more nominees! Also I am going to work with Angela and Sansee to make the event anual. Also i hope they will let us alow the article of the year winner to become User of the Year and have his article be the Featured Article. Best Article will get User of the Week and Featured Article after The article of the year winner.

Sounds like an idea. I have a Wiki Awards Council page prepared, and I want permission to post it. I was thinking our decisions could be conferenced on the talk page of the Star Wars Fanon Wiki Awards Council page instead of your user talk, just to make things more formal and easier to track. On the main article page people could sign up to be on the council. Do you dissapprove of this article I created? C3PO the Dragon Slayer 18:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Wiki Awards Last Stand
Unless you havent realized for the last almost two weeks we have been operating and of course rescheduling the First Annual Wiki Awards! Now I know it is summer but this is the biggest event of the year on this wikia. No one seems to be cooperating. We need at least four nominees per category! Once we have four we need no more! Also at least try to get three nominees on the categories that have none. And of course a article can only be nominated once per category as well as that author. What if the authors nominated twice? Three? Four times? No. The author and that article can only be nominated ONCE per category. The awards will be rescheduled one last time! But I have lost my patience and I will say that after Saturday there will be no awards if they dont happen on Its new date of Saturday June 1st. Same time at 2pm pacifc, 3pm mountain, 4pm central, 5pm eastern time zones on The First Wiki Awards page. Sansee has aproved to make the event anual but if it doesen\'t happen it wont happen again! - Sincerly to the people of this Wiki, Darth Vacatour, Chairman of the Wiki Awards Council

Darth Vacatour, I would like to say that even if you do not receive enough nominations, that you would still follow through with the awards. I have been trying to help bring nominees for you, but for some I cannot find a suitable nominee. Please do continue to do this, because I think that this will help improve our image to the other wikis. Especially after those disastorous vandal attacks. NKSCF 20:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Very well but the deadline stays for JuLY 1st. I will rescheduling to JuLY 4th IF NECESARY!

Positions and Authorities of the The Wiki Awards Council
Are we, on the council, allowed to appoint other members and put suggested articles into the official nominee section? I am only on for a little stretch of the time you\'re usually on, so I thought I could make major changes to the Wiki Awards page, to make it ready for the event on time, but I would like your consent. Since I am interested in holding this event, I\'ll make the changes in advance, and if you don\'t think members of the Council should have some of the powers I am exercising, contact me and I will change it back.

I am also allowing Aiddat to join the council for now, as he signed up on the roster. If you dissaprove anything, again, contact me when you log on. The Wiki Awards will look more prepared when you log on. C3PO the Dragon Slayer 17:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

No. You may provide suggesttions to what to do and nominate but you may not make fulll decisions. I will for now allow Aiddat as we need members but start to tell people to vote in the Voting section below the nominees section.

Wiki awards times

 * Erm, little problem with your times. \'\'\'I live in England\'\'\' so i don\'t have a bloody clue what time the awards are. Jasca Ducato 20:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well if that the case, do you mind if i make my votes now seeing as i won\'t be on the internet at that time? Jasca Ducato 20:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Problem With Wiki Awards Nominees
Greivous-class Star Dreadnaught is nominated in \"Spacecraft\" and \"Vehicles.\" Can there be some way to fix that? C3PO the Dragon Slayer 20:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Best spacecraft article
Darth Vacatour, could you please tell me what place my LAAT Advanced was in the best spacecraft article? Thanks, -NR- 22:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Upload Help
Can you make a guide of how to upload an image? - Wikimaniac

I dont known how to upload images myself!

Council
Okay, sorry I didn\'t do much for the Awards. Well... do you like my prize templates? I\'ll see about this project Typhillia. How\'d you get the name? Sounds like a cool name for a Star Destroyer. -Aiddat 01:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Quotes on Main Page
DV, did you change the quotes on the Main Page? I\'ve looked into the history of the page, and I cannot find the original ones. NKSCF 01:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC) No i didn\'t but I think it may be the Fanon council. Please we have to balance the council. This is politics you cant be on both partys.

This isn\'t Republican and Democrat or Conservative and Liberal here, DV. This is about having fun, and to have fun you have to set rules. I believe that by working on both parties, I can help make a difference on this site. If you want me to, I will resign as a Chair Member, should you feel that that is needed. NKSCF 01:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Resign from my party? No. I have a plan. I am promoting you to ambasador on the typhillian council. You can wait until maul gives you a hire rank. But you must understand that we arent republic or democrats our to partys are just trying to help the wiki until administrators are chosen.

Thank you Darth Vacatour. I will do as you have asked, as soon as I get a job on there. I will act as your representative there. Just tell e what you want the to hear and I will voice it. NKSCF 01:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Announcement
I will be leaving on a trip tomorrow and will not be able to contribute for awhile. Keep this wiki safe and sound for me, please. If I can get a chance to come back I will, but that is highly unlikely. NKSCF 02:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Possitions
Many of the possitions you have for this council are for the Fanon Council. We should discuss who gets what. MaulYoda

House of Fanon
That\'s not what I was saying. What I was saying was that the two parties to get into fights a lot so we should have one governement, the house of fanon, with two parts, the fanon and typhillian council, managing two different parts of the governement. MaulYoda

You\'re a real politician alright, your answer wasn’t direct. I said we will \'\'\'not\'\'\' have admins any time soon. Making these political parties is \'\'\'lame\'\'\' and \'\'\'immature\'\'\'. Please \'\'\'stop\'\'\'! Ewoksfist 22:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh and the \"House of Fanon\" would have \'\'\'NO\'\'\' admin power, so what exactly do you hope to accomplish by this childish game? Ewoksfist 22:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I\'m against the house of fanon. I just wanted to have The Fanon Council there to make sure everything went smoothly on this Wiki \'\'\'until\'\'\' we have admins, in which at that time, it will be eliminated. MaulYoda

It looks like we agree on something then. Ewoksfist 22:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Admins
PS, keep an eye on this guy. It seems like a new form of vandalism to me.
 * Why eliminate admins!?!?! \'\'\'WE\'\'\' need them, or this war will just get outta hand. Jasca Ducato 19:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * They\'ve worked out on every other wiki in existance, why shouldn\'t they work here? Jasca Ducato 19:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How is it an outrage? Think of it, what if the two councils disagree, what then? As for asking both sansee and angela, i doubt they\'ll agree. Not if its only your view that this wiki doesn\'t require admins. What if i sent them a message saying that we definately do need admins. Actually, i think i will. Jasca Ducato 19:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with he idea of having a form of government. But we could use admins to enforce the goverment. Both Angela and Sansee have said they wont make vandals admins, so we don\'t need to worry about that. Jasca Ducato 20:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It wont work. Besides the fact that Angela and co. will proabaly say we do need admins, goverments have been known to be \"overthrown\". Jasca Ducato 20:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If your Unending evil, then that could be considered Sock puppetry and thus, against wiki rules. As for Finis Valoroum, he did have a Sith Lord manipulating events. And Richard Nixon was at the head of quite a large movement, it wasn\'t only Nixon who went down for Watergate. 39 others resigned beforehand. Jasca Ducato 20:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * your the one who brought up Nixon, i simply proved you wrong. Simply put, we need admins, and i\'m pretty sure both Sannse and Angela will agree. Jasca Ducato 07:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I was reading Jasca\'s talk page and I saw this statemebt that you put there: \'\' A comitee with two strong large councils who will meet regurely to ensure peace and security on this wiki. what if the admins are power hungry vandals,\'\'. I think that not everyone is power-hungry, though it takes only one thing said or done to change one\'s beliefs... or the person they are entirely. It is not wise to be so \'\'\'rigid\'\'\' in that belief, nor is it wise to... dismiss it as a possibility. I could never be an adminastrator, \'cause I suppose I\'m power hungry if I ever wanted to be, and it would only take a certain event to change me. Anyway my point is \'\'\'do not\'\'\' dismiss adminastrators as a possibility. Darth mavoc 10:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
I don\'t believe in the house of fanon. The Fanon Council is no longer a political party. It works for this wiki but it works alone. MaulYoda

Chairmen?
Who put you in charge of the house of fanon? It\'s a bad idea to have it in this first place but still. MaulYoda

Shame Me?
Now you\'ve gone pretty low. Look, just because I don\'t believe in something you do doesn\'t mean you have to tell the world something to shame me with. And what exactly would that be anyway. Oh, and one more thing. If you want to have a government instead of admins, your going to have to request that from Angela first. MaulYoda

Is this the REAL betrayl? - Wikimaniac

Well, I could ban him but no. MaulYoda

Best spirit?
Best spirit my butt. Ewoksfist 01:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Come on Ewoksfist, it doesn\'t get better that way. The Wiki Awards were great. But I do wish you were better about this, Lord Vacatour. Let\'s get admins and then set up other helpers. Many believe political parties will only slow and weaken us. It turns out how it votes. Please do not spam people into voting yes, as I heard you did. -Aiddat 01:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. Don\'t take it hard, you\'re Wiki Awards were a great success. I think the idea of assistants such as \"ambassadors\" and \"guards\" is good, too, as long as they don\'t \'\'replace\'\' admins. -Aiddat 01:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Leaving?
If your trying to duplicate by tactic of catching a vandal, that was just luck that I did. Anyway, you don\'t have to leave forever just because of what you did. MaulYoda

Banned templates
About those Bobbys, please don\'t add the banned template to users when you can\'t ban them. It might make it hard for the admins, and people freaked out when the vandals \"unbanned\" themselves. No harm done, though. -Aiddat 19:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Three Comments
I have three things to say to you:


 * 1) Please stop copying the ranks of the Fanon Council for your groups. An IRC group should mainly be for discussion, which is exactly what the IRC channel is for.  You only need members and two positions, a president and a vice president.
 * 2) Please post the weekly news in the current events section. Or, I could add a link under navigation for you if you want.
 * 3) I think you might be on to something with that Boulders guy. He has been around long enough that the vandals that attacked us during The Vandal Wars might have been under his control or the control of his group, the ISV.  However, the objectives of the early vandals like Fuckface, Incest, Drakar, or even as early as Johnny and WOW seem a bit different from what he is aiming for.  Those vandals seem to just want tp cause trouble for small wikia but this guy seems to want to take control of the entire Wikimedia administration so he can do what he pleases and vandals can run free throughout the wikia, doing as they wish and he will block any users who get in their way.  If this is a new guy, then we are in a whole new war.

Hope your wiki gets approved soon. MaulYoda

Comment
Yeah, I know. Now go on and revert! MaulYoda

Two things. One, IRC Corporation is part of Wikimedia. Everything on this site is part of Wikimedia. When Bobby said he wanted to reorganize Wikimedia, he meant all the Wikias and Wikipedia. Another thing, what does defacto mean?

Work on your grammer, no offense. MaulYoda

IRC Corp
Is it really necessary? I\'ll check it out later, okay? I think all these groups might complicate things. By the way, thanks for fixing the Main Page then, then, and please use the tilda signature, so I can get an easy link to your page. -Aiddat 21:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Ummm, I fixed the main page twice during the vandal attack just now. MaulYoda

So did i maul, so did i.

I know you did, it just seemed Aiddat was only saying you edited it. If I did something, I\'d like to at least get credit. I fixed the main page, then you did, then you did again, then I did. I think, we at least fixed the main page four times. MaulYoda

Ughhh...
Do I have to say it again? IRC Corp is part of Wikimedia, not matter what you say. Any Wikia and anything in that Wikia, even Wikipedia, is part of Wikimedia. And we are not commanders. This time, it\'s only the admins. MaulYoda

Another Thing
Most of those comments I put on your page were before you started saying anything. Look, if your wiki was approved, you should be mananging that wiki, not this one or you\'ll be just like Neomessiah who deserted this wiki for some other cause. The Fanon Council already has most of the jobs your IRC corp has and they\'ll do those jobs until \'\'\'both\'\'\' councils are no longer needed or admins are eleceted. MaulYoda

Oh, and how old are you because that would be the reason your spelling and grammer are so bad. MaulYoda

My Response
And you weren\'t here when Fuckface or Drakar or half the clones attacked so if I missed one or two big vandal attacks, oh well. At least they were cleaned up. I\'m not in this for fame. I\'m just saying that if I did something, I want credit for it. Leave you alone? I don\'t care if your sorry for that burn in **** thing you said to me, you shoudl be thankful I didn\'t report you and get you banned for 2 weeks to a month. Yep, I could. But I didn\'t because I\'m a nice guy. So seriously, I just want the admins to be elected and to do what\'s good for this wiki. If you can\'t understand that, not my fault. MaulYoda

Disregarding what I just said, I think that\'s a good idea. However, it will be called The Grand Army Of Wikimedia. Be careful though, myspace can be a dangerous place and it\'s harder to fight someone there then here. MaulYoda

Another Responxe
Apology Accepted. Today, we form The Grand Army of Star Wars Fanon. We must recruit, and fast, if we wish to stop him. MaulYoda

That\'s why I put the declaration of war link on the main page. MaulYoda

Please sign your name after things you write. Anyway, the councils have joined together to form this army. That\'s final. If we have an army, we don\'t need councils. The councils will become admins and the admins will have an army to back them up. MaulYoda

That\'s some of the best grammer you\'ve ever used. Anyway, the leader of the army is the general, which there are two of, me and you. Check the army page for more info. MaulYoda

Oh please, that guy became a user in May so I highly doubt he\'s one of Bobby\'s minions. Unless your right and he was the defacto leader for the vandal wars in which case, I\'ll keep an eye on him. MaulYoda

It\'s already all taken care of and all annouced on the main page. I\'m leaving soon, I\'ll come back later, so you annouce it. MaulYoda

We don\'t need a judge or ambassador or anything like that. Oh, and we\'re attacking Wednesday as long as your on. MaulYoda

We don\'t need more possitions. And I\'m leaving Thursday. MaulYoda

DV\'s IRC Corp
please dont delete it. You dont have to do anything just let me do it. please don delete it or i will report you to sansee and angela.


 * Hey, I had the idea. And you claim I founded it as well. This means I get a say in every decision we make. Otherwise, you can\'t put my name behind it. Understood? Good. It seems you\'ve already gotten rid of my name. Unending evil 00:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I understand, it was my idea to make a government with you but you still came up with IRC. But please let me fix the page for it. understand.


 * In fact, please don\'t include me. I wouldn\'t like to have any part in your governing. Thanks anyway, but no. Keep the IRC idea if you\'d like. Good luck with your government. Unending evil 00:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

no wait please. this is no government. its to stop vandals and to help produce the irc chat.


 * I see. Then, leave my position open for two weeks. If nothing happens, count me out. However, if you get more than 10 staff members, I\'ll reconsider. Until then, please don\'t tag my name there. Unending evil 00:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

so your saying if i get 10 staff members youll join?


 * If that happens, I\'ll consider joining. Right now, I\'m leaving my choices open. Unending evil 00:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

fine but just tell me why you wont join now. its becuase what i did with the last council. my flame war with maulyoda isn\'t it. this isn\'t a government!!!


 * I\'ve heard some pretty rough things about you. Until your plan proves to be a success, I\'ll listen to what others say. Unending evil 00:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

very well sir. very well.


 * DV, after the outcome of today\'s battle, I\'ve realized this war is getting serious. As you\'ve proven yourself, I have reconsidered. I will take my place as co-founder, and I will fight to defend this wiki, as well as every other wiki out there. Care to update me on what\'s happening? Oh, and I apologize for not being there today. I went... shopping. >_<. Unending evil 00:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * \'\'PS: MaulYoda, please don\'t think I\'m intruding. We all have the same goal in mind, and I believe IRC is the quickest way to communicate. From now on, I believe we\'ll need you both as the administrators of #SWfanon. What do you think?\'\'

Hey, can you or MaulYoda look at the voulentiers? There has been more requests. I really love yoda

But... but... what do we do? What\'s wrong with Vandal Poachers? What\'s the extra use of the Grand Army? -Aiddat 19:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

There\'s the secret base... - Bub

It\'s just another idiotic flight-of-fancy. Ewoksfist 19:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The Army should be a more organized form of Vandal Poachers. With the army, a general could assign a specific vandal to a certain user, or group of users, and tell someone else to get on IRC. I don\'t know how to use IRC, so don\'t ask me if Bobby returns. C3PO the Dragon Slayer 19:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean, \"assign a certain user, or group of users, to a specific vandal?\"

Well, that may work better but for now, this is what we have without admins. MaulYoda

\"Army\"
Yes I do. But what good will an army do? Can you give me an intelligent answer to that question? Ewoksfist 20:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, the old methods are what we need. I don\'t understand your plans, so I just decided to become a trooper or whatever. NKSCF 20:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

What do you know? I was right, it is just another flight-of-fancy. You also, once again did not answer my question. You are beginning to annoy me. Ewoksfist 20:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Still you are the one going all-out with it. You are annoying me. First the government/political parties: pointless. Then the news show: pointless. Now the army: pointless. Is it just me, or is there a pattern here? Ewoksfist 20:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Methinks I agree, except he brought the wonderful Wiki Awards and that makes him ok in my book. And that\'s not becuase I won some awards on there. But those pointless \"political parties\" were getting on my last nerve. NKSCF 20:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The answer to what good an army will do is this: If our new foes are organized, and not popping out one at a time with no interaction, they can become exponentially more deadly. If we adapt the same strategy and get what were formerly called \"Vandal Poachers\" organized the same way, we can supposedly counter the threats as effectively as they vandalize. But we have administrators, so that puts us one step higher than them. C3PO the Dragon Slayer 20:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Political Parties? Could I see them?

I believe that you were still on vacation when this occured. We had the Fanon Council and we had DV\'s party--of which I forget the name. The two were at odds with the other and many users--including Ewoksfist and myself--were not very happy about it. One dissagreement led to another they finally decided to a compromise. I don\'t know the full details as I was also on vacation for awhile. NKSCF 20:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I\'ve seen the idiotic council.

\'\'\'HOW\'\'\' do you paln to \"\'\'\'attack\'\'\'\" the vandals? This is childish. Ewoksfist 20:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I thought this was settled: this isn\'t about attacking \'\'them\'\', it\'s about defending SWFanon effectively. C3PO the Dragon Slayer 20:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Why don\'t you ask the \"general\"? He said that on my talk page. Ewoksfist 20:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

You know, after all of this, I\'m starting to wonder if we really need an army. After all, Splarka assured me that everything will be all right. Is all this necessary? Unending evil 23:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

No, not really. I\'m just playing along for now. Ewoksfist 23:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I wasn\'t on this morning either. I was busy all day. Anyway, we need as many people as we can get so we\'re keeping all the positions. MaulYoda

Let me clear up the army thing because all though I have no idea how we\'re going to stop vandals, I was in on the army idea. The army is basically an organized way to defend from vandals. That\'s all. That way, not as much damage is inflicted and we may stop the ISV faster. MaulYoda

IRC Corps
Is it okay with you if the IRC Corp. is deleted and merged into the Grand Army? Bub 15:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

The Army
It was your idea, I just named it. Anyway, I don\'t support it now. MaulYoda

GASWF
You want it deleted? What about the rest of Order 68? Bub 01:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Capitals
Please don\'t type in capital letters so much, Vac. -Aiddat 21:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh, user:David lill? Anyway, please use your linked signature. Otherwise I have to scroll up and type it in the box or look for a previous link. -Aiddat 22:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I don\'t know much, but look on his talk page, there\'s good info there. He seems to be a \"mercenary\" hired by Vandal \"Sith\". Maybe the ISV. I\'ll reread it myself, and you do that too. -Aiddat 22:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

How to contact him? I don\'t know. And tell us about this \"Haven\", at 313. Please be more specific, \"where is he\" could mean \"Where does he live?\", \"Where is he now?\", \"What is he doing online?\", \"How do I contact him?\" or \"Where\'s his user page?\" -Aiddat 22:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

"Its a Haven, a paradise, where you are free to write what you want, create articles about anything uncensored. Its a gem land. Everyone is a sysop. Its beautiful."

- DV

That is what DV says about Haven. I doubt it is true. He is keeping the link top secret at the moment. Gnosis is knowledge

Hmm, I looked on Wookieepedia, Wikipedia, and Wikia, and he doesn\'t have a user page on any of them. Logging in on one Wikia-based Wiki (like this) is automatically useable on all Wikias. Just you have different user pages for each one. He may have contributed without making a user page, but look into that yourself. -Aiddat 22:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

PS: And I think the Haven is in good hands at 313. -Aiddat

Why make a big deal. Thats exactly what The Haven is. A Home, A Refugee, for those who are persuceted...By Evil. Two Have experienced the Haven before. Neither is me. Im the creator. Of a masterpiece. - DV

The Haven is in good hands only at The Haven. A Paradise that no one can hold in the palm of there hand for its a shooting star. -DV

Or there is 313.

I didn\'t say you were second in command of the ISV. I just want you to stop spamming that haven trash on talk pages. If Haven is so important, give me the link.

Sounds like Haven is either an idiotic secret club, or is the ISV recruitment area, or some other vandal site.

I gave \"idiotic secret club\" as a possible identity. And besides, if you\'re being this secretive about it, it is likely either:
 * a) not real
 * b) a vandal website
 * c) the ISV base
 * d) an ISV recruitment ground

OK, than if it is really so awesome and beautiful, than give me the link, or:

"Leave us or you\'ll never make it!"

- Palpatine

If it is just a wiki in the making, why are you not giving me the link? I would like to help out and see this paradise.

"I know you you find me anoying, i really think you hate me. You just want to frame me and since many belive that Bobby entrusted me as second in comand of ISV you think Im in ISV. -DV"

- Darth Vacatour

No, I don\'t hate you. I don\'t think Bobby gave you second in command of the ISV, and I doubt you\'re in the ISV. I just want a link to this wonderous, \"Haven\", you keep talking about.

I asked about that problem on Bub\'s talk page. And why am I not allowed into haven?

9.19.22 = ISV. Only ISV are allowed? So you are running a secret recruitment site for the ISV.

"Traitor"

- Obi-Wan-Kenobi

The ISV hacked editthis?

I\'ve been there - the Haven is an ISV Base. Here\'s the link: http://editthis.info/the_haven/Main_Page DV also told me he\'s a general in the ISV army. -Rogue Four

What is this all about? Everything here is unprovable because we can\'t get to the site. If your haven is so great, then let us is, one at a time if need be, so we can prove that you are \'\'\'\'\'not\'\'\'\'\' with the ISV. And if the ISV hacked and claimed the base, the non-ISV Darth Vacatour parts will be in the history. Come on, let us in! C3PO the Dragon Slayer 01:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Aiddat says...
Well I voted neutral, it\'s okay, but I think we should be allowed to fix each others\' articles, as long as we don\'t remove information. We\'re smart and nice enough for that to work. -Aiddat 21:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I don\'t think it should be a shield. I think we should be trustworthy enough to edit without permission and not take out important stuff or add stupid parts. So instead of a shield, one just gets in trouble for messing it up. And of course, vandals get banned. People who last here are nice. -Aiddat 21:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, make it so that you can protect your articles optionally, but don\'t make it super recommended. And of course we can\'t trust vandals. If vandals attack, too bad. We ban them and revert it. -Aiddat 21:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, but keep page protection optional. That is if the Wikia ladies and gentlemen will set it up for us. As for vandals, I say deal with them the old-fashioned way. But admins would be good. -Aiddat 21:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

You\'re welcome. -Aiddat 21:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Well we don\'t need much of a government, and we\'ve been asking for admins the whole time! It won\'t help to say \"We officially get admins on Friday, okay?\" to Wikia. -Aiddat 22:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, okay, but I don\'t think we need an official propisition for it? Why bother? I voted yes anyway. Hey - could you let us into the Haven? At least those you can trust 313?

Hello
I was wondering if I could run some ideas by you. I am writing a fanon Star Wars semi-novel and I was loooking to write in Darth Vacatour. What would be more pleasing is with your help and Knowledge of star wars that we make a very intresting contrbution. If you go to my user page and you can find a link to my tale. Thanx for your time. Also I support prop 2.Hope to talk to you soon.Darth Aeonz 04:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC) Darth Aeonz 04:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Stuff
I\'ve got some stuff to straighten out with you. One, editthis.info was not \"hacked\", it has experienced those kinds of errors before. Two, stop talking about the Haven and how great it is when nobody can even get in it. I\'ve seen what\'s in your so-called Haven, and nobody has joined except me and there\'s barely any content. Three, don\'t pretend you are the boss, and say you\'re appointing admins and making official propositions (an idea you stole from me, by the way). Bub 04:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

What?! 313 was attacked? And did you \'\'give\'\' your haven to the ISV, or did they just vandalize it? -Aiddat 12:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

You\'re a \'\'former\'\' ISV guy? -Aiddat 14:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

This is... shocking. So it turns out that we \'\'were\'\' right when we accused you of being a vandal back when you were Zotoros Infinite? C3PO the Dragon Slayer 20:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it should be added. But you, as bureaucrat, can \'\'let us in\'\'. We can take back the Haven, if you are truly, sincerely apologetic. C3PO the Dragon Slayer 21:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology!
Dear Darth Vacatour,

Thanks for apologizing. I would also like to know if I would be able to help fight these vandals.

I would love to help, -Jack

Prop 1
How can you say I didn\'t get it? The prop was \'VERY\' hard to understand. The part I did get was the part about the shield. I think that that is a bad idea. The rest is apparently similar the rules we already have.


 * Can I talk with you?

And who are you? NKSCF 00:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Take a guess

One of his former buddies, or you? NKSCF 00:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Who would be \"you\"?

I be me, who be you? NKSCF 00:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Someone who has been inspired to let people know as to what i did.

I\'m intrigued, please reveal to me/us your exploits. NKSCF 00:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

First off you have to guess as to who I am, and what I did.

Darth Mavoc? Betrayed many by becoming David lil. Some random hood/thug of Bobby\'s? (I mean that in a very caring way.) Bobby himself? That\'s self-explanatory. Fuckface? Lewd messages. Darth Incest? Lewd messages. Alacastor or Alabastor Torn? Attacked and vandalized DV\'s pages. How am I doing so far? NKSCF 01:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Betrayed, eh? So you feel betrayed? Do you even know why I did it? Did you even stop to wonder and/or ask?

Wow, got it on the first try. I do, your articles were great, there was no purpose to vandalize anything, so as just to get yourself blocked. What was the point? I hardly believe that Bobby offered you money. NKSCF 01:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Of course he didn\'t, I wouldn\'t have done it for money, information is amuch more valuble comodity in these times. Perhaps I should tell you what I told Bub?

It was just a suggestion, but please, do tell. NKSCF 01:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Let me start from the beginning. As soon as I got here I noticed the attack from Bobby boulders. I checked one of my pages and saw the message he left. I went directly to MySpace and created an account, i then left a message to sign up to the ISV.

As soon as I did that I wanted to speak to MaulYoda, to tell I have a plan to spy on him. By that time Bobby already knew and didn\'t trust me completely, so he got to do something that would prove I\'m one of them. To keep my cover, I vandalised this place. I have a lot of info to give you and I would\'ve had a lot more if this didn\'t happen. He already knows about the two spies you were planing to place in his organization, but he didn\'t know about me.

David Lill is my other User, but he wasn\'t meant to be used for evil purposes like this. But anyway in the end I was kicked out of the ISV, my cover blown. Now I\'ve got nothing to do, I can\'t edit my work. I can\'t create new articles. I can\'t even edit my user page. Not hat I\'m complaining, don\'t get me wrong. I suppose in a way I deserve this.

Usually I'm quite cynical when stuff like this happens, but if reading what DV had said means anything, I know that I can forgive you as well. I will contact Sannse or another admin and try to get this ban lifted. BTW, how can you edit on here, I thought you could only do that on talk pages? NKSCF 01:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Haven
I joined, but I can't figure out the template, sorry. I think Aiddat is better equip for the job. Ewoksfist 00:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)