Star Wars Fanon:FanonProject/Project Cruentus

Our article for Improvement is Elthior-Class IV Assault Frigate!

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Project Aims

 * 1) Our goal is to create a minimum of three Featured articles, showing the large amount of effort we would like to see put into the project.
 * 2) Create an extensive new and intriguing era.
 * 3) Build a good relationship between users.
 * 4) Most importantly, enjoy ourselves!

Please do join this project, for it will improve the wiki as a whole, and should be a lot of fun!

List of Participants

 * Darth tom
 * Obi maul12
 * Unit 8311
 * Troyb
 * Gnosis is knowledge
 * Arav the Undersith
 * Darth Nyne
 * Trak Nar
 * Darth mavoc

Factions and their leaders

 * Death's Tongue Militia-Arav the Undersith
 * Lost Ones-Darth mavoc
 * Necasian Military-Darth tom
 * Srav Federation-Unit 8311
 * Vacoren Alliance-Troyb
 * Zayre-Darth tom

Articles
If you create an article for this project, please add to the article!


 * Project Cruentus
 * Cruentusian War
 * Zion
 * Gresk
 * Orskasp and related articles
 * Orskaspan
 * Ranasha
 * Elthior-class IV Assault Frigate
 * Eborax
 * Zayre
 * Necasian Military
 * Srav Federation
 * Jasef Yuiln
 * Ivran Gresev
 * Sviat
 * Death's Tongue Militia
 * Carsal Redharn
 * Vacoren Alliance
 * Hask Dofine
 * Ankarr
 * Battle of Dagobah (Cruentusian War)
 * Drakuv-class assault tank
 * Okol-class mobile missile launcher
 * Battle of Shattered Ridge (Cruentusian War)
 * Toronian Class Storm Tank
 * Nataska Vergulva
 * Battle of Hypori (Cruentusian War)
 * Hoag's Peble
 * Molot-class anti-infantry platform
 * Gan Gan
 * Kurtev-class heavy assault tank
 * Yukel-class assault fighter
 * Battle of Lehon (Cruentusian War)
 * Jam Dasua
 * Battle of Alaris Prime (Cruentusian War)

Timeline
Once articles start being created, a timeline may also be created

Discussion

 * To view past discussions, see Archive 1, Archive 2, Archive 3.

Discussion
Tom, please see The Battle of Lehon. Also the previous discussion place was stuffing up. It said there was no such page, so I created this. -- Arav  [Talk]. 08:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It did the same thing for me too. I archived the first discussion section into another archive and I'm gonna do the same to the previous discussion in hopes that it'll remedy the problem.  The page is mosterously long. o.o   Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, it worked. Archiving the majourity of the previous discussions solved the problem.  Now for me to get my butt to bed...  Trak Nar  Ramble on 09:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This is me, (just guess who, it's pretty damn obvious) and I have a few things. Thanks Trak Nar, your assistance will be greatly wanted, and, Arav, didn't you read Brandon's comment? Don't leave stuff in articles saying stuff like: 'TOM: NOTE, I WILL DO THIS LATER. I don't believe any of us are doing it any more. And, by the way, good image. 213.120.242.98 14:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've created the Srav fighter article, which I think should kinda be the basis for other fighter articles. Some other things: tom, I like the idea of a novel and game revolving around this, but like Arav said, let's leave that until the project is finished or almost finished. Now, should we start focusing on the first battles of the war (in fact, we can make Arav's Lehon battle the first one, to make things easier) or should we do one more collab battle, my idea this time involving the Zayre teaming up with the Necasians and both of them whupping some Sravs under the command of your Askar guy? Unit 8311 16:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally have some great ideas for the Necasians. Carsal Redharn is a great fan of the Zayre, and recognizes what a valuabe ally they will be, and he is a great fan of them. When Askar kicks his sorry arse right outta Necasian High Command and imprisons him for execution, Storm Ironwings, in repayment, will free him. Askar will then be really angry and spend time hunting him, whilst Redharn's great friend and Necasian Commander, Haveer Jarn, will be having doubts about Askar. He will have his loyalty called into question many a time, and will eventually set off to look for Redharn, with some officer he's in love with. Eventually, he'll find Redharn and Redharn will have founded a small faction using fighters, like the ones you created Unit, and Jarn and his Girl will discover him, asking him to return to the Necasian Military, and lead it from Askar's rule. Unfortunately, Jarn will have led Askar to Redharn, and Askar will shoot both Jarn's love and Redharn, mortally, before Jarn is forced to flee. He will then take control of the fighter faction and fight the Necasians. And I think we should do a few more collab battles, and some other additions to the storyline. What say all of you? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That looks a bit complicated at first sight, but yeah, it seems good, and it might add a drama backdrop to the whole war thing. I think the fighter faction should initially use craft that are pretty much similar to the craft of other factions (i.e. glorified modern jet fighters, as I said) but towards the end they start to get upgraded so they resemble more the typical SW starfighters we know and love. Also, could Jarn be the Necasian frontline hero (initially at least)? Meanwhile, let's do one or two more collab battles, and then we can start serious work on the storyline. What do you think of my idea in the last comment I made for a collab battle? Should we start elaborating? Unit 8311 16:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Jarn would be the frontline commander. And I was thinking about a logo for the Zayre also. Anyone got any ideas? About the battle, hell yeah! I'm so looking forwards to kicking some Srav butt! [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 16:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I think the Zayre logo should be arabic-looking, for some reason. Okay then, let's make the battle on (scratches head) (because I'm too damn lazy to think up my own ). The backstory, I think, should go something like this: Zayre approach Necasians for an alliance, Necasians decide they can use the Zayre to weaken the Sravs before eventually destroying them via suicide missions to elimiante them as a threat, so Askar and Ironwings team up with their respective forces to take down a Srav base on Alaris. And yes, the Sravs will get their butts kicked, though don't count on it going on, comrade.  Unit 8311 16:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I'm in. I also think that, before we make more articles, we should decide the outcome of the war and what happens to each faction. The NM will descend into civil war, with Jarn taking 'em down, and Jarn will, eventually, kill Askar. The NM will then be taken on by Jarn, but his revenge mission will be done, and eh will retreat it to some other planet and disband it into the ruling government of that planet. What say you? And, for the Zayre logo, if anyone approaches me with a good one, it'd be much appreciated. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 17:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I say that we cross that bridge when we come to it, but I think that in the end the generals of each factions will start killing their leaders, and it will all end in one big battle where the frontline heroes of the factions decided to group together against their generals, who are hellbent on destroying each other, in a last-ditch effort to bring peace. But, like I said, I think we should worry about that later. Also, like I said before, we should establish a timeframe for the war--four years is good, three maybe. As for a Zayre logo, I thought the imagery from Assassin's Creed --look behind the title. I don't know where to get a picture of just that logo, but oh well. Meanwhile, should we start Battle of Alaris Prime (Cruentusian War)?
 * Indeed. I'll go and mess the logo around now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 18:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Started the article. When you've got a moment, tom, do the prelude bit, which will be about the Zayre meeting up with the Necasians, and then I can start with the battle section. Unit 8311 19:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! Anyway, I'm uploading a Zayre insignia now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Image uploaded and article edited. I also have an idea to add a storyline to this war and to give reason to why the war was given up. Whilst I recognize that you may reject this, I think that Haveer Jarn and Nataska Vergulva should start a relationship and, through their love, relise that the war is pointless, and that they are all the same sort of people. What say you? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 19:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolute rubbish. What were you smoking when you thought of that? Just kidding. That's actually a very good idea--it could give a proper reason to why the frontline heroes would want to end the war. Then, they could get together somehow with Ironwings and try and stop the generals of their factions, who have basically gone demented. What do you think? In any case, I think we should start thinking about the middle stages of the war before we start thinking too far ahead. I'll edit the battle article now--tom, give an Ironwings reply to the second quote on the page when I'm done, will you?  Unit 8311 20:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, i'll take a look at the article, but it'll be the last thing I do tonight. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 21:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you guys having problems uploding images on Project Cruentus Articles? Like, try uploding this image to the battle of Hypori. The nuclear bomb image from wookiepedia. Here's a link. . Thanks.-- Arav  [Talk] . 23:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Timeline?-- Arav  [Talk] . 01:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Obi, when you are ready, I think you need to make a faction of your own. Tom,Unit,Troyb and myself have made one. Also Trak and Nyne, if you guys want to, you should make a faction. Remember, if you guys want to.Where is Gnois and Nyne?-- Arav  [Talk] . 01:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * At the moment, I'm prolly gonna just focus on general clean-up and revisions of articles, and drawing pics for some. If I tackle too many article-writing projects at one time (currently working on two over on the Wook), then I'll get flustered, overwhelmed, and nothing will get finished.  Projects like this I feel are best to ease into 'fore diving in and cranking out article after article.  I need to review the lot of the articles anyway to get a general idea and feel for the time period.  Since it't taking place roughly 23,000 ABY (or so), then I'd assume that there will be a different look to the technology, clothing style, archetecture, etc.  Given the pace of technology in the real world and factoring that into the level of advancement depicted in the movies, then I doubt that things are gonna look the same way as they were in say 40 ABY.


 * This is a whole new era, and in the span of time it took to get to this era, a number of things could've happened. Technology could've advanced to a utopian Kryptonian level.  Or a catastrophy could've happened that knocked technology back so far that the people hadta look for new ways to acheive what they wanna do.  This could be steampunk for all we know (which always looks awesome)!


 * That's been a kinda tricky thing when it comes to creating new eras, 'specially those that're vastly ahead of the established era; the advancement or decline of technology. How far can we actually go?  How far can things advance?  Is there a limit?  As artists and writers, we need to keep those things in mind.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 04:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine Trak Nar. A Michaledsuarez will always be a good addition to the Project. And no Arav, we're not having problems uploading images, and I don't think Gnosis or Darth Nyne are all that active, and Obi maul12 was banned for a bit a while ago. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 05:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh and, Arav, I finished the Battle of Shattered Ridge (Cruentusian War), so if you coul take a look and add stuff to anything DTM related? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 05:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that you needed a logo for this era. Image:CruentusLogoCandidate.jpg. Hopefully you'll like that. Darth mavoc 06:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting... What would we say it is, however? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? Do you mean what does it represent? Darth mavoc 06:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well it's kinda random. You can't have a random logo. Like the CUSWFN logo isn't random. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * True that it is random, but what era logo isn't? Especially other fanon ones? Darth mavoc 06:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Trak should make us an era logo. It would be mutch appreciated. It needs to be of good quality. Also please cheak the Battle of Lehon (Cruentusian War) for guys. Just so you guys know how the war began and if you could fix up infomation if you guys want. It is how the war started. Also could sombody please uplode this image to the Battle of Lehon for me? For the info box picture. It would be much appreciated.-- Arav  [Talk] . 06:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Firstly, I'd like you to, both now and in future, read all of the comments left here since your last one, as I left a number regarding you. Secondly, Mavoc' is fine. It is of good quality, and you have no reason why Trak should do it. I'm voting for Mavoc's as the era icon; we can always make an article about the logo later. And why can't you upload images? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Mavoc's logo works pretty well. It kinda reminds me of Jabba's insignia.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I'm all for Mavoc's. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 07:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I like the image. The 6 arrows could represent 6 factions. Just my opinion.-- Arav  [Talk] . 07:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Graphic design isn't my forté anyway. I do mostly character art.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 07:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Trak nar, do you reckon that you could make an image of a Zayre? Create one that looks like a Zayre? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 07:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, I can do that. Though, since there are a few pics in the article that are a bit conflicting in design and no specific description was found in the article itself...  Do you want 'em to be six-limbed (i.e.: arms, legs, wings) or four-limbed (i.e.: arms/wings, legs)?  The article gives a basic description of a somewhat angelic being; is that the kinda form you want or are you picturing something really unique?   Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorta angels of war, if you know what I mean. Two legs, two arms and two wings please. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 08:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll dig up some references and see if I can get some character design sketches done this weekend.  Oh, seeing as how this is a new era, is there a particular style you're looking for?  For example, Mad Max-esque post-apocalyptic hodgepodge technology?  Highly-advanced utopian crystalline Kryptonian style?  Some sorta take on steampunk?  Or is this era still in the basic SW style?   Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh, what? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 08:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I may just be putting too much thought into this, as looking back on history, we defined our eras based on the level of technological advancement, style of dress, style of archetecture, etc. Given the pace of technology in the real world and factoring that into the level of advancement depicted in the movies, then I doubt that things are gonna look the same way as they were in say 40 ABY.  This is a whole new era, and in the span of time it took to get to this era, a number of things could've happened.  Technology could've advanced to a utopian Kryptonian level.  Or a catastrophy could've happened that knocked technology back so far that the people hadta look for new ways to acheive what they wanna do.  This could be steampunk for all we know!


 * That's been a kinda tricky thing when it comes to creating new eras, 'specially those that're vastly ahead of the established era; the advancement or decline of technology. How far can we actually go?  How far can things advance?  Is there a limit?  As artists and writers, we need to keep those things in mind.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Like I said, I may just be putting too much thought into this. It's rather late on my end.   Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * well, Unit's pretty good at taking care of problems like these. Anyway the Zayre tend to wear golden or metallic armor, which you can see in the Zayre article. And, if the Zayre images you make could be female please, that'd be good. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 08:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Can do. And it's 4:56 am on my end, time for bed. XD   Trak Nar  Ramble on 08:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 09:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What would you guys think of the idea that Mavoc's image could be the logo of the Necasian Sharpshooter Cohort? [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 09:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that logo could kinda suit a sniper battalion. And Trak, in response to your questions about technology, so far me and tom have gone for a more naturalistic technology feeling--i.e. technology in this era is, for the most part, only a few generations ahead of current modern stuff. So, guns use bullets, tanks use normal shells, nukes are regarded as the epitome of WWDs, starfighters are basically modern jets with limited space travel capabilities...just look through the vehicle articles I've made to get an idea. Each side has its own feel in technology, though; the Sravs use Russian/Soviet-themed stuff, the Zayre use blades, and the Necasians have an American, Halo theme around their tech, as far as I can gather. Does that help you? Also, I've just noticed the infobox image in the war article, and to be honest I don't really like it, mostly because it's obviously a GCW thing. I think the nuke picture (which I suggested earlier) or the Lehon picture, would be better. Unit 8311 13:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. What he said. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 13:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Elthior-class IV Assault Frigate. It needs expanding and it is the main capitol ship in this project so far. What should be the next battle? We really need a new faction. I was thinking we could add the flood off halo. They could be an experiment of the Rakata and they break loose and the Rakata are battling with them when suddenly the Eborax disease comes to Lehon killing many Rakata and surviving Rakata flee the planet which is like 10,000 Rakata. Then the flood roams the planet feeding off the corpses of the infinite empires slaves and the Rakata. Then people come with their ships to come and see the remnants of the infinite empire and when they land, the Flood are ready. Initially the Rakata made them for military purposes. So the Flood are ready with the Rakaia’s weapons and high tech vehicles and attack the travellers and take their ships and they keep massing them until 2 years, no-one comes to Lehon anymore so the Flood leave Lehon with there fleet of  many ships and high tech weapons and devastate the Galaxy. The Flood are later defeated by the Zayre in an epic battle on Duxn? I like the Flood to be a new faction. No Grave mind from Halo 3 or 2 just the species from Halo 1 thank you very much. No ring. Or if you guys want it then we can make a compromise. Actually no ring and no Star Forge and No Death Star there the most powerful Technologies in star wars and halo games.-- Arav  [Talk]. 00:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Its that time, time for a new improvement article. Any nominations? I say the-
 * To be honest, I really don't like the idea of a cross-over; especially a cross-over to a series which involves the planet that created Star Wars. And I also think that a major plot point should ivolve the Star Forge, the Star Forge being the greatest achievement of the Rakatans, not to mention the most powerful construct in the current universe. I really wouldn't be surprised if a massive battle was held over it. It's no lie that whomever controls the Star Forge, controls the war. Darth mavoc 04:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * See guys.-- Arav  [Talk] . 00:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well after much thought (Maybe not all that much) I now have a logo for my organization! Now you can add it it and battle article. TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 01:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Damn it, no crossovers! Imagination please. Arav, there will be no Flood in Project Cruentus, and Mavoc's already made a new faction. I'm with the Elthior as the improvement article though. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 05:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Further Discussion

 * No problem. Whats your new faction Mavoc? If you guys want, sign into IRC so we can chat about stuff. So can I change the Improvement article to your ship Tom?-- Arav  [Talk] . 06:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, no. We need at least one more person to give their consent. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 06:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My factions known as the Lost Ones. Darth mavoc 08:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Mavoc, do you want Elthior-class IV Assault Frigate to be this week's improvement article? Me and Tom have agreed on that one. Do you want it to be or do you want another one. It needs to be chaged by the ned of today.-- Arav  [Talk] . 09:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That or either Gan Gan. Darth mavoc 10:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The lost ones should be good soon.-- The Undersith  [Try it, I dare you!] . 09:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I'll change it to the Frigate now. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 13:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I thought we were supposed to us canon logos.TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 13:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Canon logos? Yeah, you can use them. The logo for the Vacoren Alliance is fine. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 13:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh so the "damn it" was too....?TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 13:58, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Arav, talking about making the Flood. That would be a Crossover article, violating a policy. Taking an image from somewhere else is fine. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 14:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well the crossover policey says you cant take another article and make it star warsy, using a image of the Flood is fine.TroybShadowFeed contribs[[Image:Council ROTS.jpg|50px]] 14:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Apart from being a retarded idea, it would be fine, yes. [[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] My page iChat What I've done 14:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)