Forum:MASSIVE Administrator Election

This is a place where you can nominate any user you want for the position of Administrator. The only real qualification is that they meet the Voting Policy. There is no set amount of time for this. It will last however long we need it to. We will elect as many people as we want. The only thing is that users need at least TEN net votes (meaning when support and oppose votes are combined) to be elected. That number can and will be revised if necessary. You also need to remain on the nomination track for at least three weeks, regardless of how many votes they have. Once they receive that many votes and they have been on the track for three weeks, they will be elected as an Administrator.

To make a point, I am not using the RFA Rules here because they simply don’t work in this situation. How can you vote for only one person when it’s an unlimited amount of openings? I think you see my point.

Why am I doing this? It’s simple: we have a problem. On a Wiki of this size, we need A LOT more Administrators to deal with things around here. To be honest, I really don’t care who you are so long as I don’t think you’re incompetent. If you’re not incompetent in my view, then it’s likely I’ll vote for you. We need more Administrators, and you’ll learn from experience.

All matters of the Voting policy apply here: you need 250 main space edits to vote (this will change once the Voting Policy is revised) and you need to have been a member for one month. If you have any questions, please let me know. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 07:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Current standings

 * Darth tom (11)
 * Drewton (7)

Support

 * 1) Tom has proven himself capable during his time on Star Wars Fanon. He is a successful High Priest, has successfully become the leader of CUSWFN twice and has earned the respect of most if not all of the community. He has also lightened up his seemingly aggressive nature towards some new members, which was a complaint I had in his last RFA. Any other kinks will undoubtedly be worked out with experience, like they were with me, for example. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 07:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Qualified for the job, I think. –  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 08:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) I don't care how many admins we have, this place would improve no-matter what. Brandon, you have completely surprised me with this idea. Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 08:16, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Same as Forum:New Administrative Elections: June 23rd to July 23rd. -- Michaeldsuarez [[Image:Sabersmilygreend.jpg|20px]] ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 15:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Great/helpfull user, and one of the most active members on here. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 16:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) Hell yeah. Unit 8311 11:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) Per the above peepz. - Solus (Bird of Prey)  14:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 8) Has showed how capable of leadership he is with his managment of the CUSWFN.Great job Darth Tom. Anti-Formal  Come slang wit' me Work I've Put In 17:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 9) --Victor talk 18:11, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 10) -- Kathkira talk  00:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 11) --spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 06:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Questions
From Brandon Rhea:
 * 1) How long have you been a member on Star Wars Fanon?
 * 2) *At a guess, I'd say about seven months now. Taking a look at my contributions, I first edited on the 20th January 2008, so just under eight months.
 * 3) Why does your experience during this time period qualify you for being an Administrator?
 * 4) *I feel I've done a lot of work; I've welcomed users, introduced the policies to them, done High Priest work, and, of course, worked very hard on improving the media world on CUSWFN.
 * 5) What makes a good Star Wars Fanon article?
 * 6) *Grammar, prose, writing style, imagination and a good storyline. Images are also important, but they're not vital. A good layout and planning are also needed.
 * 7) What is the biggest problem on Star Wars Fanon?
 * 8) *Probably the amount of new users who arrive and don't read the policies. I myself did this, but some users do it again and again. The quality of some articles is also a problem, as it leads to much criticism from other wikis, meaning there's a bias against us.
 * 9) How can you solve this as an Administrator?
 * 10) *Well, the first one always has been and always will be a problem. New users often fail to read the main page, and just go straight to article editing. The most we can do is inform them of the policies after they break them, but there are some users who don't. I can also clean up articles, fixing spelling and grammar, whilst notifying the author of any POV or poor storyline areas they need to work on. And, if the article breaks the policies, the author is warned and they still fail to fix it, it will need deletion.
 * 11) How can non-Administrators help solve this?
 * 12) *They can fix spelling and grammar, and notify users of the policies as soon as possible.
 * 13) How should a new user be welcomed?
 * 14) *I've never been a fan of a simple, and I often include a personal message informing them of the policies most wildly used, and welcoming them in a friendly way.
 * 15) Who should welcome new users?
 * 16) *Everyone. This is a big community, and the community should work together to expand itself.
 * 17) What does the term “community” in relation to Star Wars Fanon mean to you?
 * 18) *To me, it means the users who come here and help out, whether by voting, fixing articles, reviewing or just writing an article. A community is a group of people who work together upon a large, or smaller, database, and the community now is quite friendly. Although the Project Cruentus community is more relaxed, I wouldn't like that to be here on Star Wars Fanon as a whole, as we do need a business like air anyway.
 * 19) In what circumstances should an Administrator agree to an article for immediate deletion?
 * 20) *If it contains porn, or images that violate our policies, then it shouldn't remain here.
 * 21) How can you help encourage new members to participate in the community?
 * 22) *I think that showing them to read some of our better articles may inspire them and help them, and I think that we need more community Projects, such as Project Cruentus, in future. Although I think it's sensible to just have one at a time, I think there should be fresh Projects when old ones end.
 * 23) How can you help encourage current members to help encourage new members to participate in the community?
 * 24) *Community Projects again. Community Projects are a great way of helping new and old users collaborate together, and this will allow for a community atmosphere on a smaller scale for new users, as well as on the Wiki itself, as they'll see people around that they'll recognize.
 * 25) How can you help encourage current members to participate in the community more?
 * 26) *Community Projects once more, but there is more than that. By encouraging them to vote in policy proposals, or just to create discussion threads about Star Wars novels then they become a better community member, and if they're encouraged to come up with their own ideas, they help the community themselves.
 * 27) What is your favorite Star Wars movie? (Hint: Do not say “Attack of the Clones”)
 * 28) *A New Hope and Return of the Jedi have both been two of my favourites. If I had to decide between the two, it would be the latter, Return of the Jedi.
 * 29) What are three personal traits that you believe will best serve you as an Administrator?
 * 30) *An ability to know when to have fun and when to act totally serious, a friendly, welcoming nature, and an experience in many of the things other users face now.
 * 31) What are three negative personal traits that you believe you will have to work on correcting as an Administrator?
 * 32) *I still have the tendency to be a little harsh upon users, although I'm working hard on correcting that. If I could iron that out completely, that'd be excellent. I sometimes mistake what people say, also, although I've improved a lot in my time here. I can't really think of another, off the top of my head.
 * 33) What is one thing that you can bring to the Administration that other Administrators have not?
 * 34) *An experience in administration on other Wiki's; I'm also admin on four or five other Wiki's, and if some of the ideas used there could be incorporated into this Wiki, we could find little areas for improvement and improve them.
 * 35) What is your opinion on the current, overall Administration (do not name names)?
 * 36) *I think we have a number of administrators who're hard-working, diligent and professional people, who I have no problems with. However, we do have a number of admins who aren't doing there job properly, and so I think something needs to be done about them.
 * 37) Why do you want to be an Administrator?
 * 38) *That's a question akin to asking someone why they'd like to be Prime Minister, or something. I feel I can bring a lot to this Wiki, and I feel that I strongly want to improve our community and site here as a whole, and being an administrator would be the best way to do this.


 * 1) Will you help clear the articles for deletion? --Victor talk 20:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *Of course. I'll check up on it daily at the absolute minimum, as I will with broken redirects, problem reports etc. etc. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] (talk) (contributions) 20:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) Drewton is a very active member of our community. He votes in everything, is active in article writing and helps out with tech-related stuff quite often. He is the Admin of another growing Wiki and he is able to very much balance his time. He is also one of the leaders of CUSWFN. I believe he has the technical and user-based expertise needed to become an Administrator. Any kinks he may have will undoubtedly be worked out with experience, like they were with me, for example. - Brandon Rhea (talk) (contribs) 07:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Has done nothing but improve the site since he joined. –  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 08:00, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) If I can be a admin on a wiki, Drewton can do 100 times better job. I have not really seen what Drewton has done but I really think anyone with experience of a wikia could be a admin. (Its just some more buttons you get to push). . --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 08:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) Amazing pictures, great edits, etc. -- Michaeldsuarez [[Image:Sabersmilygreend.jpg|20px]] ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 15:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Not just great picture editing, but also a great story teller!-Endor chicken
 * 6) --Victor talk 18:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 7) -- Kathkira talk  00:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral
Okay, let's not start telling people that they have personality flaws. We're not exactly psychiatrists here. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 19:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) I've thought about this. Drewton's a hard-working guy, with some good articles and edits, but he has a tendency to be a little too non-critical at times, with the 'No offence, but it's a bit bad in places', the 'No offence' being one he uses regularly. A bit more criticality and a slightly more hard approach would gain a support from me. I don't want him going too far over the top and becoming a harsh dictator-esque user, but there does need to be more, in my opinion. I also haven't seen him hold down an official position on this Wiki, and so can't judge him on that. I was very close to a support in this one, but not quite there. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 11:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) *An Administrator isn't meant to be critical. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 13:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) **Exactly. I always try to be curteous to users. While you may not take offence, other users could. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:20, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 4) ***I never said he needed to be much more critical. Just slightly more so, as I get the impression that this is based on a lack of confidence, a bad personality flaw. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 14:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) ****Perhaps, but it's not because of a lack of confidence. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:51, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 6) *****I don't know enough of you to astutely judge that. Hopefully working on CUSWFN will help me know you better. And it wasn't just for that reason that I was neutral. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 15:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

 * Woah, thanks. I didn't expect this. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 16:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "A lot of the articles on here are, no offence, either joke articles or junk."

- Drewton in the below questions.

Here's one of the instances I mentioned in my neutral vote. Why use the 'no offence'? It's true, and we won't take offence at something that's true. If you believe something, don't be frightened to just say it downright, unless it's overly harsh or offensive. -- <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 11:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * If I may be so bold as to try to speak about what Drewton meant, I don't think he was saying "no offense" to us. He's saying that to the authors of those articles. I say "no offense" before giving criticism like that too. Would you like me to resign? - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 19:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I haven't noticed you saying it that often, whereas I always smile when I see him doing it, having seen it lots before. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 06:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I say it so people don't think it's something personal against them. That's not a bad quality, that's a good quality. You can't be in a position with any sort of power and be saying things that people are going to take personally. If they take it personally when you say "no offense" then that's there problem, because you've taken the steps necessary to try to avoid that. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 16:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I know you well enough to know that this isn't a lack of confidence. As I said, working with Drewton will hopefully improve that. And you are forgetting, that wasn't the only reason, nor the main one, that I opposed for. --[[Image:Darthtomsig.png|163px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contributions) 17:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What are these other reasons then? Right now I can't answer or explain them because I don't know what they are. Don't be worried about me taking offence, because I won't. It's a wiki, after all. As you said above, if you believe something, don't be frightened to just say it downright. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 00:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Questions
From Brandon Rhea:
 * 1) How long have you been a member on Star Wars Fanon?
 * 2) *About five months.
 * 3) Why does your experience during this time period qualify you for being an Administrator?
 * 4) *I've made a lot of technical edits, especially recently. I vote on everything I can, make fixes other users' articles so that they better comply with the Manual of Style, and fixed the dates on upcoming Good articles. I'll also be doing CUSWFN with Darth tom and, if the new categorization policy proposal goes into effect, I'll categorize whatever article I see uncategorized. I literally can come on here almost 24/7.
 * 5) What makes a good Star Wars Fanon article?
 * 6) *A good prose, good ideas, character development, good pictures, sourcing, based on information from written stories by the author, and having a Wookieepedia feel to them as if they were made on Wookieepedia.
 * 7) What is the biggest problem on Star Wars Fanon?
 * 8) *A lot of the articles on here are, no offence, either joke articles or junk. There need to be more limits on what authors can do. I also most articles need be based on information from actual stories written by the author, though that's not something I can really change even with administrative powers.
 * 9) How can you solve this as an Administrator?
 * 10) *I'll give users some advice on how to make their articles better without writing their articles for them, and never being harsh or forecful to them. All joke articles, including one-sentence extreme Mary Sues, should be deleted on sight and the author should be advised to put it on Darthipedia.
 * 11) How can non-Administrators help solve this?
 * 12) *They also can give some advice if they chose.
 * 13) How should a new user be welcomed?
 * 14) *Warmly, and not impatiently saying "don't do this or you'll be banned". That won't help their edits.
 * 15) Who should welcome new users?
 * 16) *Anyone, but especially administrators.
 * 17) What does the term “community” in relation to Star Wars Fanon mean to you?
 * 18) *Being part of Good article nominations, voting on proposals, and being active in talk pages.
 * 19) In what circumstances should an Administrator agree to an article for immediate deletion?
 * 20) *If it's a joke, nonsense, or complete Mary Sue.
 * 21) How can you help encourage new members to participate in the community?
 * 22) *Inspiring them by showing some other Good articles and Featured articles. I'd also encourage them to follow the Manual of Style because it looks better and more professional.
 * 23) How can you help encourage current members to help encourage new members to participate in the community?
 * 24) How can you help encourage current members to participate in the community more?
 * 25) What is your favorite Star Wars movie? (Hint: Do not say “Attack of the Clones”)
 * 26) What are three personal traits that you believe will best serve you as an Administrator?
 * 27) What are three negative personal traits that you believe you will have to work on correcting as an Administrator?
 * 28) What is one thing that you can bring to the Administration that other Administrators have not?
 * 29) What is your opinion on the current, overall Administration (do not name names)?
 * 30) Why do you want to be an Administrator?


 * 1) Will you help clear the articles for deletion? --Victor talk 20:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)