Forum:Project storyline

Star Wars Fanon &gt; Project Force Wars &gt; 

So the first thing we're going to want to do is develop the storyline for the project. To do that, I think we need to do the following things in this order:


 * 1) Develop Tython. Since this war was fought just on Tython (as far as we know), we're going to need to flesh that out and really detail this planet beyond the minimal amount of canon information there is on the world. We need this to maintain consistency as well. I suggest this be our first featured article too.
 * 2) Develop the backstory. We need to come up with the information about those first people coming to Tython and the eventual seduction of many of them to the dark side.
 * 3) Determine the groups (the amount of groups/factions needs to remain small, IMO) that are on Tython and that will eventually participate in the war.
 * 4) Develop the beliefs of these organizations. They can't be Jedi and Sith carbon copies, IMO.

Once we know that stuff, we can begin work on the actual war. It's going to be a bit of work to get that point, though. Strap yourselves in! It'll be a fun ride! See here for an archive. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 06:35, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

3. Groups/Factions
See also: User:Brandon Rhea/Force Wars

To start, and since the backstory says it, the original people, along with the scattered warriors and priests and stuff, were the Order of Dai Bendu, the Followers of Palawa, and the Chatos Academy. I don't think we should have many others. By the time of the war, I think there could be individual groups, but all of the light side groups should fight under one command and all of the dark side groups should fight under one command. It makes no strategic sense otherwise. Also, I think mercenaries/bounty hunters are a TERRIBLE idea. This is the Force Wars, not the Force Users Hire Scum to Fight For Them Wars. Anything other than Force Users would ruin the mystique of this war. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 16:22, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with that, but I also believe in adding our own twist. For instance, I'm not sure if it names a leader of one of the above-mentioned factions, but I think we should come up with our own leaders, generals, and soldiers. As long as we do that, I honestly don't care about the factions' names. --Wylindsig.png (Conference Room)  16:25, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Adding a twist is one thing. Ruining the feel by adding in super awesome badass merciless killer bounty hunters is not a good twist. As for coming up with our own leaders, of course we would need to do that. That's not really a twist though, lol. I wouldn't call them "generals," though. I'd think these are more like, shall we say, fighting forces than actual armies. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 16:28, September 9, 2009 (UTC) I support the "Abbot" title. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 16:36, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, so we got Bendu monks, Chatos paladins and Followers of Palawa. The Followers and the academy both originated on Palawa, so they should have a somewhat tighter bond than with, for example, the Dai Bendu, am I right? Also, for leaders: More like "Prior" or "Abbot" for the monks, etc? Antonstaen (Talk) 16:31, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * And for the Followers of Bogan we'd have like the titled "." --Wylindsig.png (Conference Room)  16:33, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well IMO, let's figure out the factions before we start figuring out faction titles. I have to go to class, but I do have a LOT of faction ideas that I'm going to type up in a few hours between my classes. I'll post them then, so don't decide anything! =P - Brandon Rhea Rebel symbol Blue.png (talk) 16:37, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Do not settle too much with out me either, I have class until 5:30 today (probably) so I won't be on until at least 6. If you do settle the number of factions and such I would like to input a couple ideas here: Sangha (In Mahayana Buddhism, the term 'Sangha' strictly speaking refers to those who have achieved certain levels of understanding.) for a monk title analogous to Jedi Master.
 * The Ashta Matha (Eight Monasteries) for a faction name. Perhaps tie it to the 'Sangha' title. As well as Muni (ordinary monk) analogous to the title of Jedi. These are my proposals for Faction names and titles, in case I am not here for the final decisions. (Abbot and Prior seem too Earth based and generic) -- I am the Chosen One Train me, I will bring balance...Archive 18:08, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * We haven gottent to the fanon factions part of the discussion yet. I advise that you wait for Brandon. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 18:11, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * I know that, I was just putting out my ideas since I will more than likely not be here in time to have a say in the decisions. I in no way wanted to force a decision yet, I just wanted my ideas on the record while I am gone. - I am the Chosen One Train me, I will bring balance...Archive 18:14, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

(On a five minute break from class) Don't worry, Chosen One. I won't be posting my ideas until around six o'clock either, so you won't be missing out on anything if you come back around then when your class ends. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 18:24, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Gah, won't be hearing your ideas when they're still fresh - Timezone trouble. Antonstaen (Talk) 18:26, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the understanding Brandon. I guess I will see you guys around later. I too have class in like 5 minutes. Look forward to your ideas. - I am the Chosen One Train me, I will bring balance...Archive 18:28, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, I just got out of class. Now I gotta find something else to do. --Wylindsig.png  (Conference Room)  18:30, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, so we know that three factions, from the backstory, right off the bat are the Order of Dai Bendu, the Followers of Palawa, and the Chatos Academy. Considering the influence of Bendu stuff on the Jedi and the Republic, and considering that “Jedi Bendu” was the original term for the Jedi in Lucas’s first few drafts, they’re very obviously the good guys. That doesn’t need debating.

With the Chatos Academy we already know that members are titled “Paladins,” so that’s something we have to go with. The Paladins were considered to be the early forerunners to the Jedi Knights, so IMO that means that the Chatos Academy would be good along with the Order of Dai Bendu.

The Followers of Palawa eventually develop Teras Kasi in order to keep the Jedi in check since a war with the Jedi ends up destroying the homeworld of Palawa. That would happen after this war, though, since it was a conflict with the Jedi Council, not a forerunner or anything. I think that the Followers of Palawa should be the bad guys here. That could be one of the reasons that they’re in conflict with the Jedi later on, because they’re already enemies. We also know that members of the Followers like Arden Lyn were evil, because Arden was the lover of Xendor and ended up leading the Legions of Lettow (ie, Dark Jedi) after Xendor’s death. This already establishes a link between the Followers and the dark side, a link we can officially establish by having the Followers be the people that are seduced by the dark side prior to the Force Wars.

Other than that, I really don’t think we need to come up with any additional fanon factions. We already have three which will have a number of Force users. The Dai Bendu and the Chatos Academy people would be fighting together in like a co-super faction thing against the Followers, and all of the other priests, philosophers, warriors, etc. that have the ability to fight would end up joining whichever side they wanted to. Any additional factions would get too convoluted. There is plenty of storytelling and battle opportunity with these three groups. Considering the limited canon information on these groups, particularly in this time period, we can almost think of them as fanon factions considering how much potential there is for us to flesh them out, so long as what we know about them from canon is followed.

One thing you may be asking, then, is how the Followers can effectively fight against two factions. I find that answer to be simple. When the priests, philosophers, warriors, etc. are choosing sides, more of them go with the Followers (at least at first, I’m thinking part of the Followers downfall in this war can be that a lot of people are redeemed) than with the others. A lot of these people would go with the Followers because, as we know, the dark side is the quick and easy path. These people want to be more powerful and they, like the Followers, would be hungry for knowledge, so instead of peacefully meditating in trying to learn more they would instead choose the quick and easy path to gain the knowledge as quickly as they possibly can. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 22:30, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * I was trying to find holes in this idea, but I can't. It makes a great deal of sense. You delivered spectacularly Rhea. You have my support.- I am the Chosen One Train me, I will bring balance...Archive 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Question: would all members of the factions have force ability, or would regular grunts be just normal soldiers? While massive battles with Force powers being thrown left and right by everyone would be awesome, it may also be good if say the bad guy factions use alchemy of some sorts of augment their grunts or something. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:37, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Will Tython be the only battleground, or will there be fighting on Palawa as well? --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 22:38, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think just Tython will be enough. --Wylindsig.png (Conference Room)  22:40, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I also think Tython will just be enough (because for a long time, as canon says, they think their powers are confined to Tython). As for Unit's post, I don't think they'd know enough about Force alchemy to do something like that. They're just figuring out the dark side, so it's too early for that sort of thing. I think it should just be battles between Force users, even if the person's ability to use the Force is minimal. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 22:42, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, that sounds cool. Augmentation may not necesserily be force-based--it simply be regular super-chemistry, or there could be some natural drug on the planet that does that. Perhaps this could be reserved for elite troops, though. Bear in mind that said drug may not necesserily turn them into superman, just diminish pain and increase stamina, etc, which is what real life substances can do. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:44, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * A lot of them would be pretty weak wouldn't they? It is not just like some uber Force fest anyway. Maybe at the end they would synthesize a drug, I don't think it is good to have it right off the bat.- I am the Chosen One Train me, I will bring balance...Archive 22:46, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

IMO, Unit, that's incredibly cheesy, and sounds like some cheap way just to get super soldiers into a story. We don't need super soldiers in a Force based war between Force users. Force users are super soldiers, in a sense. Anything more super than that is a bit over the top. - Brandon Rhea  (talk) 22:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Crack-filled soldiers charging at Force-users is a terrible idea. --Wylindsig.png  (Conference Room)  22:48, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * IMO, that'd sound cool, but hey. Anyway, perhaps just regular elite mooks in that case. Distinguished by tough armor, maybe? Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  22:52, September 9, 2009 (UTC)