User talk:MPK/Archive II



Recent Reviews
Once again I am awed by the power of your wit and ability to see through idiocy in fanon stories. Keep up the good work. All of those quotes of yours are hilarious, especially the Sherlock Holmes'. I haven't read any of those in years. Brings back some fond memories. Jesus Freak NK says NK's 'mazin' articles 16:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice to hear from you. Responses on my work are always appreciated. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 16:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Decreton Lords
Since Vic has now stepped down from all of his positions, we are in need of one (and really more) new Decreton Lord, or at least one. I would like to nominate you for the position once I set up a vote. You interested? - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom) (Record) 23:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Psh, loser. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom) (Record) 23:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I'm afraid not. My presence here is already starting to slip. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 23:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's not too late. I planned on putting something up later today, so I'll put you on it. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom) (Record) 14:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Possible Adminship
I know you turned Brandon down to be a DL, but I'm here to ask you to become something more than that: Our second new admin. We may have disagreed on certain things in the past, but I'm convinced that you're the man for the job. (Besides Gnosis, of course.) I understand if you say no and believe me, no hard feelings if you do. Thanks, no matter what you choose. Jesus Freak NK says NK's 'mazin' articles 14:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Assuming the rules permitted it, I'd give you and Gnosis that half vote thing. - President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] (Pressroom) (Record) 15:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Commandments of Fanon Writing
Nice job with your fanon writing commandments. I just read through all of them and agree with all of them, particularly #7. That one has always pissed me off both in canon and in fanon because it really makes Anakin Skywalker’s sacrifice and basically overall character useless. If there is a Chosen One that is supposed to destroy the Sith, wasn’t his life worthless if they just come back a few decades later? The answer to that is a resounding “yes”, at least in my opinion. - President Brandon Rhea  (Pressroom) (Record) 18:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reading. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 19:19, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

New Quote
! I apologize for my puerile nature. I was trying to lighten the mood around here, you know, with Vic and JM leaving and the elections. Jesus Freak NK says NK's 'mazin' articles 13:56, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There's no need to apologize. It gave me a chuckle. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 16:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding FA lengths
Hey MPK, since you’re going to be a Decreton Lord by the end of the day, I have a question for you. What are your opinions on how long a Featured Article should be? More specifically, if the article is from a work of fan fiction and the author of the article does not write anything in the article other than what can be sourced from that work of fiction, what do you think the length should be? I have a pretty good idea of what your opinion would be considering the Early life sections of your Jaden Korr, but I would like to know what you think. Thanks in advance. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 03:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  [[Image:Presidentialseal.gif|27px]] <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 20:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Decreton Lords
Welcome to the team, MPK! Please be sure to let me know whether or not you also intend to remain a High Priest. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 05:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I hope I'll made a positive difference as a DL. And yes, I'll see if I can juggle my two positions (so to speak) for the time being. -MPK, the So-Called Free Man (The Free Man's Talk Page)|undefined 18:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

POV clarification

 * Here's my stance on it, and feel free to correct or rebut me as you see fit. Force powers either generally appear in A) video games, where their "alignments" can be treated as a game mechanic and not necessarily canon, or B) books/sourcebooks, which generally aren't written NPOV. For example, Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force, describes the Potentium as heresy at best. That doesn't mean the Potentium is heresy; that means that either a generic historian, or a particular figure (in this case, Tionne Solusar and the Jedi Order) interprets it as such. To say that Force Choke is a dark side power is necessarily POV to me, given that some perspectives don't believe in the dark side. To say that Force Choke was often considered a dark side power by the Jedi, etc. is neutral. That's my take on it; I'd be interested to see what you think. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:41, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's generally not my policy to reply on other talk pages, but I have a bit of a reply on mine. If you just prefer the short form: I don't entirely agree with you, but I can see where you're coming and there's more agreement than disagreement with your points. I'll strike the objection. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:21, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, since you're a DL, would you mind weighing in on Forum:Shot in the arm? Thanks. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 17:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't mean to imply that you weren't doing your job; quite the opposite. Just out to get the review rolling. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 18:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

"Accusations"
I assure you, I had nothing to do with the Brandon Rhea article. The first I heard about it was when Michaeldsuarez left a note on my talk page saying the page existed, and then when I saw it on the GA nominations page. I have no idea who wrote it, who was involved in the creation of the idea, etc. I'm in the dark just as much as you are. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 02:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC) I suppose that depends on what your definition of "nice" is. Although I have my suspicions, I'd personally like to know who wrote it and what their intentions were for doing it. - <font color="#1A2BBB">President Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(Pressroom) <font color="#1A2BBB">(Record) 02:17, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's nice to know that we're more or less on the same page, then. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose I owe you a bit of an apology. I'm sorry if I sounded kind of imperious. I guess my Sherlock Holmes-esque brain got ahead of me that time. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 16:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

No worries. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 16:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Your Analysis
Well, i'll have to congratulate you on your expert dissection of my Jerun Othorne article. No joke, not being sarcastic. I actually learned from that uh, analysis, and by the way, your way of speech is rather inspiring and makes me want to change all those errors you found in the article. I guess the main point you're trying to get across or expressing is the fact that I didn't clarify the exact details of my Fanonverse and that I wasn't very original gotcha. I'm actually grateful and would like to congratulate you on your wit and your simply, cutting, humor. Appreciate it and, not to sound like im kissing up, but i'll make those changes soon to see if it warrants your liking oh "Lord High Priest". It's actually kind of scary to know that we have such a keen eye to analyze our articles when we submit them to be Good Articles and Featured Articles.  Anti-Formal  Come slang wit' me
 * Oh yeah and, in friendly defense of my article, I nevers said anything about him becoming a great pilot but I just may have included something in there about him becoming a great warrior.  Anti-Formal  Come slang wit' me Work I've Put In 04:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm sometimes surprised when I receive praise for criticism, especially when the praise comes from the author of whatever I criticized, and this is no exception. Thanks for dropping in. I appreciate feedback. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 21:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay then I'd be appreciative if you showed your appreciation and take out your criticism of Jerun Othorne, as it's giving me a bad reputation. No i'm kidding but seriously that was a great analysis or criticism or whatnot.  Anti-Formal  Come slang wit' me Work I've Put In 02:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Template

 * Hey, in the spirit of figuring that it was easier to ask forgiveness than permission, I borrowed a quote of yours for FAremove, a new measure implemented by Forum:Shot in the arm. If you want it removed, just let me know, or change it yourself&mdash;I don't care. On the subject of the FA review, if we can get some quick DL feedback on a couple of the FAs which are particularly bad, we can really start clearing out that page in a few weeks. Thanks. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I just noticed that template. It's A-ok with me. On the topic of the FA reviews, I am aware of the fact that I've been A.W.O.L for the last few days. Some shit's been hitting the fan lately and I sometimes have trouble motivating myself. Regardless, I intend to hit the FA review with everything I've got in days ahead. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 16:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and don't worry about it. It happens to all of us. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 16:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

FA Nominations
Hey, I don't want to seem like I'm rushing you, and it probably seems that way since it's my own nomination, but there is a 3/4 nomination for Sarus on SWF:FAN that could use it's final vote or an opposition vote if need be. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 17:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm on it. Sorry if it looks like I've been asleep at the wheel there - I've been concentrating on the Third DL FA Review. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 17:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's no problem. Just wanted to point it out to you since the FA que is arguably shorter than it should be. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 17:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, great work on the 3rd FAR. I've enjoyed seeing your comments on the page. As a quick favor, whenever you tag an article, would you mind updating my scratchpad section. What I've been doing is placing the name of the FA, along with 2 weeks from the original tagged date. That way, I/we have a complete list of when things are supposed to be de-featured if not corrected. Thanks. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 21:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 21:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Good article?
I am making an article and I want to reach the good standards,can you help me with that?More specifically this article:
 * Has the proper era icons
 * Has a detailed enough story
 * Has a good number of pictures
 * Has more than 150 words.

But:
 * It has not the best grammar.(I am not so good in the English grammar)

Can you review the article and see if is good?If you spot grammar mistakes,do not correct them,just tell me where are they.spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 09:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure thing. I'll take a look at this article of yours this afternoon. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 13:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help.I will correct any grammar mistakes and add more information about the planet condition.I also believe that Dune must be a good article because it is my "base" for many other articles(I am already making this).It cannot be just a medium quality article,right?spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 07:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry,do you know why I cannot add the category Articles made by Spartan-53?Do I have to make it first?After adding the category the other categoty(planet) was disappeared!What happened?How someone can add this categoty(articles made by XXXX)spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 08:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help,I started categorising my articles.I also fixed most of the good quality requirements of Dune.Will there be elections for it?Did you notice that there is no other "good"planet?spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 17:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

You have to submit it to the GA elections page before people can vote for or against it. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 18:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok,Dune is ready,high priest,can you review it for the last time and correct any mistake?Give me a link to where I have yo submit it.

Could you please post your answer to my talk page,too?Thanks.spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 11:03, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I placed it,please go and vote for it.spartan-53 Darth Odysseas 13:48, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Advice
Yo MPK, I was stalk...I mean monitoring...the recent changes, and noticed the message you placed on Rhea's page. Honestly, I'd say that there is not much you can do. Well, besides asking him to not ask you so many questions. You know.--  CurrentBigThing  ( Speak ) 17:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 17:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I wish I could give you a better answer, but what CBT said is right, if not inconvenient. If a new user finds you good enough to answer his or her questions, then you either need to put up with it and answer them or direct them to someone else. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 21:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am happy to step in and help this new user as much as I can. If I can not do something or I do not know, I will direct the user, to a admin. --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith  <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 23:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Is my talk page on everybody's watchlist or something? That aside, thanks, Arav. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 23:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is the heading that you posted on Bac's talk page that made me rush to your talk page. :p --<font color=#00416A>Arav the Undersith <font color=Blue>(<font color=#C3B091>Contact Me ) <font color=#00416A>(<font color=#C3B091>My contributions ) 06:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

GA nom
Hey MPK, could you also take a look at my other GA nom, Exodus from Had Abaddon? I'm asking only because I want those two to have the same amount of votes, as I want the Exodus on the Upcoming list first considering it's first in chronological order. Thanks. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 12:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 13:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

FA review
On the note of FA review, I'm the go-to guy on The Fanon Menace for the next couple of weeks, as Tesh is at school and I'm not busy. So if you could let me know what the problems with the article are, I'll do my best to fix them. --Ryluk Shouja(The Mukhabarat 19:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Ampi Kae
Maybe I should've consulted you first, but I've made a homage to you in the article above. I saw your user name in the recent changes and the urge to pay homage to you, while playing on your pen name, suddenly hit me and I came up with "Ampi Kae." It's pronounced just as the letters are in your user name, so "Em Pee Kay" or so. Anyway, if you don't approve, tell me and I'll remove the homage-elements from the article. If you do, though, please let me know. I'd like for you to assist me in a way with the article, if possible (nothing big, just some questions). Thanks. --Victortalk 20:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't have any problems with this article, and I must say I'm somewhat flattered by this. Whatever questions you have, you may ask. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay good. :) Anyway, here are a couple of the questions: 1) What is your favorite non-Human/near-Human species? I left Ampi Kae's species blank and ambiguous for this reason, so you could decide which to use (as long as it wasn't Human or near-Human. I prefer something more original, in a sense, but would prefer if you chose it); 2) In case you didn't notice, the part about Ampi Kae being trenchant was also homage to you (from being trenchant and cutting in your reviews). So, what other traits of yours, if any, would you like to implement into this character? It's okay if he exhibits the darker side of Human nature (regardless if he's Human or not), since he's so determined to wipe out the Sith. 3) This final question (for now) refers back to the first question. If possible, would you be able to get a screencap from the Jedi Knight game of this species of yours? Not really necessary, just a request. Anyway, That's it for now, thanks. :) --Victortalk 04:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) How can he be a descendant of a human if he's not even a near-human? Maybe it's possible for the line to change as the generations go by, but the idea kinda creeps me out. I say choose between Chiss and Miraluka, but if you insist on him not being near-human, go with a Kel'dor.
 * 2) I don't like the idea of inserting oneself or someone else in fanon very much, but I'll expand on that below. As for personality and traits... I'm not sure I'm a good judge of myself, but mention he has a tendency toward self-righteousness, but at the same time often finds himself condemning other people whom he consider to be self-righteous.
 * 3) As for getting a screenshot, that depends on what species he is.

Let me clarify what I meant when I said that there wasn't anything wrong with this article: I say that I don't mind Ampi Kae because I assume you plan on expanding him into a real character with a storyline, rather than an homage for the sole purpose of being an homage. What I mean by that is I don't want Ampi to be like the Ewok's Fist, a bogus homage article made by NKSCF which is a starship that doesn't even have any information on its characteristics.

Bottom line: If Ampi Kae has his own storyline, and isn't just an in-universe dude with the same name as me, then that's totally fine. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 13:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, I suppose I shouldn't of said "not near-Human." You're right. But, Arren Kae's species is not surely known; it's either Human or near-Human, and Brianna is half of whatever that is, plus Echani. So I guess he has to be near-Human. I can't believe I looked past that :P. Sorry. Anyway, he's not just some random dude with your name. Tying in canon-elements was a "pleasant coincidence" as I had said, because it gave me the chance to give even more of an importance to this new character. So even if you didn't like or want the homage or whatever, I would simply have changed his first name to something else, keeping "Kae" as his surname. He will have a pivotal role in Star Wars: The Fourth Great Schism most likely against the major character of that story, Cernos Antrell/Darth Malum. Anyways, sorry for the confusion about the species, that was my own fault. So yeah, since he's Human/near-Human (but looks full Human), take some screenshots of a Human character with the appearance of your choice, if you wish, and get them to me whenever. It would be best if you could get screenshots from Jedi Academy that way you could later make screenshots of Darth Malum vs. Ampi Kae, the former which you gave me screenshots for. Thanks. --Victortalk 22:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

HP election
As you are a High Priest, I encourage you to vote in the current and ongoing High Priest election. Thanks. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 20:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Bac reviews

 * Any FA with the name "Bac" in it, I'm pretty much not going to be able to review due to constraints on my time. However, based on precedent with DL:Vaskar, I authorize you to cast a "double vote" on those articles, if only to get them off the 3rd FAR page. Essentially, if you so choose, you have the option of casting a proxy vote for me. Those FAs aren't really the ones I'm worried about in terms of quality, and I more or less trust your judgment on the matter. Cheers. Atarumaster88  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 01:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Query
Out of curiousity, are you planning to nominate Second Battle of Bakura (Dark Order War) on SWF:FAN? - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 01:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC) Do what you have to, but I'd say it's of Featured article quality now, probably more so than other battle articles considering your attention to detail. Anyway, the reason I was asking was because the list of upcoming FAs is starting to get worryingly short, as you know, so I wanted to see if you were planning on making it a contender. In the mean time, I have three FANs that you can look at to keep you busy. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 01:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am. The reason I haven't already is that (aside from my HP and DL duties) I'm preparing for a quality sweep of my articles (in rough chronological order), and once I get to the Second Battle of Bakura, I'll comb it from edge to edge to make sure it's up to requirements before nominating it. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 01:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Proxy votes needed
Since Ataru told you anything with the name Bac in it could have a proxy vote, I just wanted to make sure you were aware that Jonathan Bac needs only one vote to save it, and that vote would be the proxy vote from Ataru. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 21:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Potential upcoming FAs
Since Jasca Ducato resigned as a Decreton Lord, we now only need to have three votes to approve an article for FA status since that's the majority. Even though it'll look like I'm pandering since these are my articles, if you could look at the nominations for Exodus from Had Abaddon and Kal'Shabbol Civil War that would be great because it would help enlarge our upcoming FAs list, which is currently set to expire after the week of October 19th. Thanks in advance. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 01:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, hell. I can't deal with this right now. Those nominations will get my attention tomorrow. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I never said now. It was just more of a general reminder. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 02:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I only said that last part for dramatic effect. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I was referring more to the first part about how you can't "deal with this right now". - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 02:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That too. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 02:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Please excuse me if my side of the exchange sounded odd. I was just a little shook up after seeing that Jasca has left. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 13:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I hope you get shaken up if I ever leave then. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 18:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reading Kal'Shabbol Civil War. I'm going to refrain from removing it from the nominations track until later tonight to give you time to read Exodus from Had Abaddon, since I want them featured in chronological order (Exodus first, then Civil War). - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 23:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

3FAR Review: Ryan Vex
Hey MPK, you were one of the Decreton Lords who opposed Ryan Vex in the Third Featured Article review. I have rewritten and improved the article so it lives up to our current featured article standards; please re-review the article in question when you get the chance before the September the 25th, when it gets de-FA'd. If you could re-review it before then, that would be great. Cheers &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives 01:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Sorry I didn't notice earlier. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 13:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Jaden Korr novel
I don't know why, but when I heard about this, I though about you since one of your star articles is Jaden Korr: there is an upcoming 2010 novel (unnamed) that will feature Jaden Korr as the lead character. Just though you'd like to know if you didn't already. -- You Speak, I've Spoken 04:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes. I noticed that before. I must say I was taken by surprise; I always expected the canon Jaden to forever remain a vague and mysterious shell of what his character could have been, like the canon and the canon ). This and the evidence of an upcoming KOTOR era novel  leads me to suspect that the canon people might have started to become less... afraid of specifying stuff about the customizable player characters of their games. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 17:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, they already put him in Fury last year as a Jedi, unfortunately. I personally liked the dark side ending much more. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 17:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. The entire Dark Order continuity began when I decided to make an article about the as seen in dark side ending; I originally had no plans to go beyond there, but it kept snowballing until I finally realized that I had a project on my hands that was immense in comparison to what I had at the beginning. It began as a small "what if" project, and turned into a gigantic fanon override-in progress of Post-Episode 6 EU. But enough of rambling about my own work. The reason I made that Battle of Korriban article was, indeed, the fact that I liked the dark side ending more. It left the story more open, and I felt myself wondering what happened next a lot more than the light side ending. Nevertheless, I don't think the canon Jaden is bland and uninteresting simply because he's light-sided; the much bigger problem is that they never expanded on him. They just said he was light-sided, and ignored him from then on. If they had done the same thing with the dark side ending (saying he was dark-sided and ignoring him from then on), it still wouldn't be much better. It is my hope that, despite how mucked up the Post-Episode 6 EU is (what with Dark Empire, Darksaber, NJO, Young Jedi Knights, Legacy of the Force, the Legacy comics, and so on), the canon Jaden, while not as interesting as he could've been (due by default to being light-sider) might actually become a decent character. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 18:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: Newsletter
Sounds good to me, I'll do it. --Victor talk 19:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you like me to submit the essay here or through some e-mail of sorts? I haven't begun to write yet, I'm just curious as to what you would like. --Victor [[Image:Vic sig logo.png|15px]] talk 21:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Through here would be fine. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 22:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. I'll write a little something up today on paper and transfer it on later. --Victor talk 18:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry this took so long, here it is.

Enjoy. :P --Victor talk 21:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Took so long? That's faster than I expected. Thanks. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 21:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Victor talk 21:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, firstly, thanks for voting on my GAN and for the praise. :) Secondly, what did you think of my review? I know I should just wait until your review to see your opinion, but I'd like at least some feedback on my rant. :P --Victor [[Image:Vic sig logo.png|15px]] talk 20:11, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If you mean your TFU review, I thought you did fine. You didn't go into the specifics/details of the story as much as I hoped, but it's still enough for me to work with. My own essay is mostly done as of now. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

That's what I meant, correct, and OK. About the details, I just didn't enjoy the story enough to really bother. I was more concerned with comparing the TFU basis to the OT films and what Lucas originally created with his characters in those films. --Victor talk 20:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * MPK, if you've done your review of the TFU, would you mind posting it here, beneath Vic's? Unit 8311  Talk!  16:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll get right on it. I've been procrastinating a bit as of late, but I should have it [my half] done by the end of the day. Thanks for reminding me. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 17:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Administrator election
Hey MPK, I just wanted to let you know that Solus accepted her nomination in the Administrator election. I'm telling you this because you voted neutral, possibly based off of the fact that you didn't know if she was willing to take the job. You obviously don't have to change your vote if you don't want to, as that's entirely up to you, but I just wanted to make sure you knew about this development. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 15:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * All right, thanks for bringing this to my attention. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 15:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
Thank you!!

Re: Need a favor/opinion
Since some Seers still don't even cast votes, I'll do that for you in the interest of timing. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 19:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Brandon. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Jedi Academy Pics
Hey, MPK. I was wondering how you uploaded Jedi Academy photos onto the internet. JadenKorr13 (Talk) 02:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about uploading images to this site itself, click the "Upload image/file" link on the toolbox to the left. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that isn't what I'm talking about. How did you take those pictures of the dark order Jaden?JadenKorr13 (Talk) 02:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I got the images from in-game screenshots. If you want to learn how to make those, consult sections I and II of this tutorial here. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Darth AT-AT
The article is no longer a junk article. Look at it. Please tell the others who voted to delete it. It is not a good article. But it is not a joke article. Look at it now. Please tell the others and reconsider your vote. Thank you. Mattkenn3 Talk 01:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Matt, I'm afraid I can't help you unless the article's name changes. You have no other option from my viewpoint. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 15:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

KOTOR Essay
I like the KOTOR essay that you wrote for CUSWFN. It reminds me of how I'm always arguing on Elder Scrolls (a fantasy/ adventure game from Bethedsa Softworks) forums. The people there are always saying that Vivec is a good guy despite the fact that all in-game material point to the fact that Vivec was corrupt and selfish. No matter how must I tell I tell thing my views, they won't believe me. Some of my reasoning is as follows: I really dislike fighting with people who don't have the ability to try to accept other people's ideas even when the truth is so obvious, especially when the other side use the silliest reasons and seem most focused on making a comeback than accepting the truth. -- Michaeldsuarez  ( Talk ) ( Deeds ) 04:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) If Vivec wasn't greedy and selfish, then why did he steal the powers of a god?
 * 2) If he became a god in help his people rather than for power, then why does he always seek to destroy any opposition to the religion he created?
 * 3) If Vivec wanted everyone to get alone with each other, then why does the religious texts that he created displays so mush hatred towards the Dwemer and House Dagoth?
 * 4) If Vivec isn't a liar, then why did he hide the truth about Nerevar's death (and of course it was murder; he didn't just tipped on a rock and fell off a cliff) for 1,000 years.
 * 5) If Vivec wanted to stop the Dwemers from gaining the power of the gods, then why did he take the powers of the gods for himself? Wouldn't that make him a hypocrite?


 * Thank you for the feedback. I always try to be as educational when I can. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 14:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it was done quite good and in an interesting way, even though most of it was blashpemy  Drewton   ( Drewton's Holocron ) 14:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Not being picky or anything
Just wanted to inform you that there was a second facility on Mustafar. Before you say something about my fanon, can you research it first?&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 15:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Where did I say something regarding the number of facilities on Mustafar? -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 16:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * On your review of Darth Tyler. I was reading it and I noticed you said something like "the facility was destroyed during Anakin and Kenobi's duel" which it was, but there was another facility that Delso operated.&mdash;Darthtyler (Talk) 19:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That is true. It is mentioned further down in my review. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Your Review
I find your review mostly right except for a couple of things.All Clone Commandos didn't execute order 66,and they lived.Some people like me named there user name after there article.And if a droid is powered by a force sensative crystal then it is force sensative.Sith-venator (Talk) 20:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Your wrong dude i know Grievous killed at least 1 during the Clone Wars.Sith-venator (Talk) 20:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) (Order 66) You are right, in that not all Commandos obeyed. However, you are wrong because they should have, and the concept of Order 66 is cheapened by the fact that some of them didn't[ obey] (not to mentioned cheapened even worse by the fact that some survived).
 * 2) (Names) Whatever.
 * 3) (Force crystal) No, it isn't. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Grievous killed a lot more than one Jedi, but he was never Force-sensitive, nor was he a droid. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:32, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Dude thats clearly obvious and look what i said,did you even read it?I said Grievous(A kallen warlord turned cyborg,that killed jedi)killed a droid that was force sensative visa a crystal that was force sensative.I found it on Wookiepedia like last year.Sith-venator (Talk) 20:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd like the name of this Force-sensitive droid. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I would too because i've been searching on wookiepedia and can't find it.Possibly could have been fanon on wookiepedia and if so my mistake but im pretty sure its not.I'll keep looking and if i find it i'll let you know.Sith-venator (Talk) 20:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Can't find it dude,but there are force sensative rocks.Sith-venator (Talk) 20:51, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Good for you. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:53, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

What you don't like rocks being force sensative?Sith-venator (Talk) 21:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If by "rocks" you mean Force-sensitive crystals, then no, I don't [mind]. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 21:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Why?Sith-venator (Talk) 21:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Allow me to clear up some confusion: 1) Grievous is not a droid. 2) The Force-sensitive crystals he's referring to are called s. 3) Some of those Shards did end up inhabiting droid bodies and controlling them, becoming Jedi Knights known as s&mdash;needless to say, they were not popular with the Jedi-Order. 4) The concept of "rocks" having Force-sensitive or Force-imbued properties is decades old. The s from the 1990s novel ' were vaguely Force-sensitive, and the also has influential properties on Force, as depicted in KotoR II and . 5) Furthermore, if planets, such as, , and  have unique or enhanced Force-signatures, a crystal with a unique Force-signature is not all that uncommon. The Jedi Order even had walls capable of holding in nexuses of Force energy-there was one on Coruscant. (See . Mind you, I don't particularly have an opinion on whatever you are talking about. I'm providing accurate canon info, because someone ought to.  Atarumaster88'''  [[Image:Jedi_Order.svg|20px]] ( Talk page ) 21:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Thx Atarumaster88 so it wasn't fanon,Also just to make it clear to the world i never once thought grievous was a droid.Sith-venator (Talk) 23:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

New Quote
Major lulz on your new quote. - Solus (Bird of Prey)  16:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Producing lulz is one of my specialties. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 18:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

... - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 18:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, lulz indeed. --Victortalk 22:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, major props for Sam Spade. It's nice to actually find someone else under the age of, like, 50 that has seen The Maltese Falcon. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 22:11, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, haven't heard of it. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 23:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

You're @#$%ing kidding me, right? - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 23:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No, sorry. (shrug) -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 23:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

The one quote; which Michael Scott are you referring to? -- Joe Butler (Obi Maul12)  (Chow) 03:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The Michael Scott from The Office. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 14:42, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Image use
Unless you neglected to place the appropriate information in the "filespecs" part of the Information template, Image:Taspir duel2.jpg has had no significant modifications made by you. If that is the case, then regardless of whether you screencapped it, your permission is not required for the use of that image in accordance with our image policy. Please let me know whether you made any significant modifications to this image, because if there were none then I will be adding the images back into the articles you removed it from. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 03:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for informing me of this. Sorry I missed that part of the policy. No, the image itself is not modified (except for cropping). Do what you will. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 14:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 16:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: In his name
Indeed. You asked me here. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 02:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

History comment
If your comment about page histories was directed at me, then let it be known that there is no real problem to confront. Fixing formatting errors is a quick fix which doesn't require confrontation. Comments in the history like mine are just to express an opinion on the matter. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 21:15, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Looking back, I think I acted kind of like an arse there, Brandon. I don't need to be tossing half-baked/condescending ideas around in history pages. I apologize. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 21:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

XVIII
XVIII (from Form XVIII: Diashi) is awesome! Don't taketh away! :P Just kidding, do what you will, but that's just my opinion. A very good article (even before this last edit of yours) in my opinion. :) --<tt>VICTORSPEAK</tt> 03:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm kind of surprised to hear that. I looked at the article today, and, not for the first time, I saw a bunch of little things wrong with it. It was like if was inspecting  and saw a bunch of holes in one of the dreadnaughts which he never noticed before. He would feel compelled to have them fixed.

I made that article three years ago. Three years ago. My perceptions of things have changed quite a bit in those three years. For one thing, I'm not a big fan of having characters invent their own lightsaber forms. For another, the XVIII no longer makes any sense to me, because in my continuity, there are seven classic forms of lightsaber combat, and a number of lesser-known obscure ones. The only reason it was called the 18th form of saber combat (rather than simply the 8th) was because back when I first made the article I did not fully grasp the concept of separate continuities; I felt like everyone's work should be smooth and consistent which each other (which, needless to say, was impossible), and 18 was the lowest number that hadn't already been used.

I later took another look at Diashi and decided to specify that it was less of a saber combat form and more of a Force technique (since even at the beginning, that's what the description had it pinned down as).

Looking at it again months/years later, I realized how much my ideas had changed since then. I wrote that article back before I realized that being a dark-sider doesn't mean jack at the end of the day when it comes to ruling an empire. I wrote it back before I came up with a backstory for Darth Imperious that was actually semi-original (which I have yet to actually add to the article). Back before I wondered where the hell the Disciples of Ragnos' fleet actually came from.

Since then, Darth Imperious became a person who did not invent a new lightsaber style with an absurdly long number in Roman numerals attached to it. Aside from that, I felt that I needed to expand on the actual nature of the Diashi technique, so that nobody would ask why nobody else could seem to do it (hence the mention of Sith magic). And since Diashi never really was much of a lightsaber style in the first place, I decided that there was no point in pretending that it was any longer (which is why I dropped the "Form XVIII" part).

When I saw that it had been nominated for the Wiki Awards, I was going to just pull it from the nomination page and explain my reasons on the talk page, but eventually decided that the basic idea of Diashi could be reconciled with my current vision of the Dark Order Continuity. So I sat down at my computer and banged out a bunch of gobbledy-gook about casting dark side nexus energies, rather than getting to sleep.

I feel I should thank you, though, Vic. By nominating that article, you convinced me to improve it. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 03:35, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Sorry it took so long to respond, I barely noticed the response. Anyway, good work, again. :) --<tt>VICTORSPEAK</tt> 03:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

New review
May I just say that you have made my day with your review of Ichi Go? Seriously, I was laughing every other sentence because most of everything you commented on was exactly right. On one note, though, I completely understand the reasonings behind wanting to know more information behind certain developments and people, but I figured the article was long enough as it was. (A lame reason yes, and there's a lamer one: I really don't feel up to rewriting it anytime soon.) As always, the only thing I wanted to get out of anyone from this article was to hope for them to have a good time. It seems I failed for you. But, anyways, thanks a lot for the review! Jesus Freak NK says NK's 'mazin' articles 20:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Your welcome, I suppose. And just to clarify, that review is at least several months old. Thanks for the feedback, anyway. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I read the part where it said you first crafted it in IRC. And believe me, your feedback is most welcome. Two years ago I probably would've been pissed off if someone reviewed my work like you have, but, thankfully, I've gradually learned to take some criticism. Thanks again. [[Image:NKsig.png|70px]] Jesus Freak NK says NK's 'mazin' articles [[Image:sabersmilygreend.jpg]] 21:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Battle template
You're welcome, although if it hadn't screwed up all of the pages I likely wouldn't have done anything. I just don't want to see upwards of a thousand articles screwed up like that. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 22:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Good article review
Please see this to participate in a relatively minor and painless good article review. Just so you're not freaked out, we do not have to conduct actual reviews. These are only articles that have had their status removed in the featured article review we conducted this past summer. I started it off with votes on all of them that link to the respective DL review page of the article, which contains all of the reasons for why the article was stripped of its featured article status. The vast majority of all of those objections can be applied to good article status as well, hence why I created this review in consultation with numerous other Seers. Please be sure to vote as soon as possible so we can get this over with. Thanks! - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 06:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

FAN page redesign
Hey MPK, I put together an idea for a redesigning of the featured article nominations page. You can find it here. To go along with that, please see my idea for how the Council of Seers namespace pages would be set up. My idea can be found here. After looking at the CS namespace example page, be sure to read my detailed explanation of how that page would work. You can find that explanation here. Please get back to me on this ASAP. I’m not going to bother with a CT on this since it doesn’t really require any sort of community vote or discussion, so once a majority of the Seers get back to me I’ll set everything up. Don’t worry, this isn’t extra work for you. I’ll take care of all of it. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 22:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Question
I was looking at your support vote on Epin Lanmaw's good article nomination, and was wondering...

"I'm not going to be forgetting it any time soon."

- You

...what that meant. It was very cryptic and a few of us were trying to make sense of it. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 23:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't want to say. If you really want to know, ask me on IRC sometime. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 01:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay.... - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 01:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

CUSWFN essay
Thanks for the essay you submitted. I'll put it on now. Unit 8311 Talk!  12:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks. Also, a few of my own theories are that when Palpatine found out Starkiller's existance, he wanted to replace Vader with him and needed something to separate Starkiller and Vader (though stabbed and thrown out a window into space is a bit too much ). Vader, when Galen wakes up, is motivated by fear of the Emperor, and when he talks to him about his attachment to his allies, that's when he thinks he's too weak to rule the galaxy with. I don't, however agree that Galen wasn't brought back to life, with the evidence from the novel, but it's not my essay. Drewton  [[Image:Era-old.png|20px]] ( Drewton's Holocron ) 12:25, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

User:MPK/Canon
Sorry, I was using Internet Explorer 7 at the time (I was using a cheap library computer instead of my laptop), so it didn't appear as a new paragraph, but it appears as you intended on Firefox 3.1b3 (and I guessing on 3.0.7, as well). --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 23:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: In case you care
Of course I care! :) Thank you. I hope you have fun on...whatever you're doing... - Solus (Bird of Prey)  11:24, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

CUSFWN XXI
Here's the newsletter that you were supposed to get but didn't. No need to thank me. -98.214.72.21 18:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

User comment
In response to your user comments, I'd like to apologise for overlooking you in the distribution. Secondly, as for your Jaden Korr thing, I did say it was only slightly cliched, in regards to the dark side thing. I wasn't trying to imply it was just another cookie-cutter fallen Jedi, which it isn't. I hope that clear things up. Unit 8311 Talk!  19:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * All right. In retrospect, my comment was overly confrontational and simply not constructive in that regard. You have my apology. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for Seership page
I just wanted to make you aware of this page that I created last night, as well as the nominee that's there. Also, would you mind giving me permission to cast proxy votes for you in GAs and FAs as well? Solus rarely votes on or reviews GAs and FAs. While she's good at what she does when she does it, it's probably not the best idea to have someone who's as barely as active as you are casting votes for you. That just slows down the entire process. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 19:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Acknowledged. Permission granted. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 20:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) <font color="#1A2BBB">(contribs) 21:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

YOU'VE RETURNED!
MPKMPKMPKMPKMPKMPKMPKMPKMPK!! WELCOME BACK! :D Have a good time? - Solus (Bird of Prey)  00:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * English and Algebra aren't especially fun, but it was productive enough, I suppose. Thanks for the warm welcome. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 00:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, I sowwy. I'm glad you're done, then! You browse TV Tropes? - Solus (Bird of Prey)  01:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, yes. It's a very comprehensive resource -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 01:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Mega brownie points. You has earned dem. - Solus (Bird of Prey)  01:42, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Solus. :) -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 02:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Essay
MPK, I'm considering leaving your essay for next month, if that's okay. Also, what does that little comment on your userpage regarding myself supposed to mean? Unit 8311 Talk!  18:43, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In regards to my essay, it was mostly a request, so you can do that if you want, if you don't think everyone will have read it by then. ;) As for the userpage thing, I couldn't think of anything else to say about you, so I just threw an Indiana Jones reference in there and called it a day. -MPK (MPK's Talk Page)|undefined 18:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, in light of a suggestion by Drew, I'm putting in on there. And I see. Unit 8311 [[Image:1110 Big small.jpg|20px]] Talk!  18:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing
Hey MPK. Just a friendly piece of advice, but I just wanted to remind you that not everyone plays Empire at War, nor does everyone know canon sources. Because of that, comments from you like "Come on? Seriously?" when you're sourcing images that have been tagged as not having a source really isn't appreciated. A group of a few users, mostly Michaeldsuarez, have taken it upon themselves to track down and tag all unsourced images so they can be deleted from this wiki. Images that don't have a source will need to be deleted, as they all violate copyright law. As for my suggestion, it's that these people should be thanked for their hard work rather than met with sarcastic comments. It's not their job to hunt down the sources of these images. As I said, just a bit of advice. Thanks MPK. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 21:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Message from my dear old brother and good friend, Garrity the First
(Garrity) Just gotta ask, because I'm all ignorant and stuff, what copyright law supersedes the fair use clause? Because as far as I can tell, whatever image you're referring to that MPK used with a computer program easily fits under the criteria established. Please explain to me what section of Copyright Law requires you to source images in an article you made?

Are the writers at cracked.com violating copyright by using images of Marvel and D.C> comic book characters?

http://www.cracked.com/article_17299_6-famous-characters-you-didnt-know-were-shameless-rip-offs.html

Sounds like "Michaeldsuarez" needs to get off his computer and go get laid for once. I'm sure LucasArts lawyers are hugely concerned about some kid manipulating images from a game that came out several years ago being posted on a website six people read.
 * Oh yeah, because everyone knows LucasArts actually cares about what I'm doing. I'm on their Ten Most Wanted List. In fact, all Star Wars Fanonites (yes, the six people you mentioned) disliked how I disregard community decisions and don't follow the All Images Shouldn't Be Sourced policy, which clearly states what I'm doing is unfair and illegal. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 18:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In fact, we should follow the example of parody sites like Crack.com . --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 18:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

If you're actually MPK's brother, something tells me he wouldn't appreciate you coming onto SWF and using his talk page to make personal attacks against other authors and say that users shouldn't have to follow our website's policies. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 18:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Garrity-- Website's policies do not equal copyright law. And Sw Fanon isn't that different from a parody site. Same concept, regardless of whether some nerds jerk off to it at night or not.

And if Ben has a problem with me he's got my #, he can talk to me personally. I just think you guys are a little self important, and since my trip isn't for another 3 weeks, I've had very little to do.
 * Whatever. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 20:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't decide which of you I find more ridiculous. And yes, he is my brother. -GSE PNG SEMIDARK.PNG(MPK's Talk Page) |undefined 21:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * In order to qualify as fair use, creative commons, etc., you need to properly attribute an article. Attribution = sourcing. Our policies say that and United States Copyright Law says that. I don't see why there's a debate about this here. It's not like MPK violated the image policy or anything. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea Rebel symbol Blue.png <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 22:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

To give some more detail for you, Garrity, under fair use sourcing is necessary to try to avoid two things: accusations of plagiarism and accusations of copyright violation. When the source is provided, copyright holders cannot accuse you of plagiarism, as you’ve properly credited where it came from and, if possible, who created the image. Even if it’s blatantly from a Star Wars film, for example, you can still be accused of plagiarism because you didn’t provide a source. The same thing applies, as you probably know, in school settings. Anything that you didn’t create yourself or any idea that is not your own should and really must be properly attributed, otherwise you can and likely will be accused of plagiarism.

As for copyright violations, the sourcing helps but it’s also important to note that it doesn’t always mean you’re getting out of a copyright violation. In some cases, a lack of a source can lead to an accusation of copyright violations, and in some cases a proper source can help you avoid that violation. It’s important to know, though, that depending on the image it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to get out of that accusation and the penalties that may come with it. This applies to licenses like “Fair Use”, Permission and Fair Use”, “Promotional”, “Screenshot”, etc.

Another frequent fan work copyright, meaning the copyright that many fan artists, fan fiction writers, etc. license their work under, is Creative Commons. There are six current Creative Commons licenses that are used. They are Attribution, Attribution-No Derivatives, Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivatives, Attribution-Noncommercial, Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike, and Attribution-Share Alike. The common theme in all of these, as you can see, is “Attribution”, meaning they all require sourcing.

The license used on Wikia, which generally applies to texts but can also refer to user-made images and the like, is GFDL, which means GNU Free Documentation License. This means that text and images are free to use by anyone, anywhere, at any time, but the text and/or images must be sourced.

Then there are public domain images, which generally aren’t used on this wiki since most people use Star Wars images or screenshots and screen captures from video games and/or films. Sourcing isn’t required under copyright law for public domain images, but we require it under our image policy as a common courtesy. This is because many, many public domain image publishers will say something like “credit isn’t required, but it would be appreciated”. It’s just always better to acknowledge where these images came from, because since most of them are taken from someone’s camera it’s just helpful to avoid plagiarism.

I hope that clears up some confusion for you. - <font color="#1A2BBB">Brandon Rhea  <font color="#1A2BBB">(talk) 22:54, 26 May 2009 (UTC)