Forum:Sitenotice

The purpose of this forum is pretty simple: What should Sitenotice be used for? Recently there has been a lot of reminders to look at policy proposals and site-related discussions. We don't really have a standard for weighing what is important enough to be put on Sitenotice, though there obviously is some unwritten discretion concerning which forums aren't posted in Sitenotice. I'm not really asking for an official consensus, just an informal agreement for guidelines as to what the administrators should let appear on the top of every page on the Wiki. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication

Informal discussions (such as this one) in the Senate Hall
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 * 1) There should be a limit somewhere. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Well, this is going to be a voting bananza! Per above. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 05:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

All policy proposals on the Consensus Track
Support
 * 1) Keep the community informed. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Neutral/comments
 * 1) Too nit-picky; should just use Admin discretion. They have Sitenotice editing abilities for a reason. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Per above. --Arav the Undersith (Contact Me ) (My contributions ) 05:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

All policy proposals in the Senate Hall
Support
 * 1) While I actually think all policy proposals should go in the Consensus Track, there's no real rule about that, and we've had policies decided just fine in the Senate Hall. Having said support for those on the Consensus Track, it would be unfair to discriminate against a simple matter of preference. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) See others. Besides, all official policies should be in the CT. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

All policy proposals in either the Senate Hall or the Consensus Track that an administrator deems sufficiently important
Support
 * 1) Beautiful. Sweet and Simple. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Perhaps it's just my determination to keep political power in the hands of the common users, as opposed to preferring the administrators, but I think if we have any policy proposals on Sitenotice, we should have them all. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

All policy proposals that are decided by consensus
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 * 1) See others. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
 * I'm including this and the following to help distinguish between different ways of reaching consensus. Maybe someone prefers one form over the other when it comes to community notice that everyone sees. A possible rationale might be "Only users with 100 edits can vote, so we should only have notice for proposals that allow everyone to have an equal say," or "It isn't asking too much to vote, but we don't need to ask everyone on the site to write essays in a heated discussion." --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 20:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

All policy proposals that are decided by vote
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 * 1) See others. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

Congratulations to new admins/HPs/DLs
Support
 * 1) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Neutral/comments
 * 1) While it's not an imperative notice that everyone should know about, it doesn't do demonstrable harm. I'm of the persuasion that congratulations should be done personally on a talk page, therefore making the gesture more genuine. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Upcoming IRC meetings (as scheduled in the Alliance of Fanon forum)
Support Oppose
 * 1) When this has been done in the past, IRC participation is almost universal. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

Current IRC meetings (as scheduled in the Alliance of Fanon forum)
Support
 * 1) --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Neutral/comments

Informal community projects (such as Project Cruentus)
Support

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 * 1) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
 * 1) It could help strengthen the community, to be sure, but it could lead to all sorts of new troubles which would take too long for me to articulate right now. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars Fanon being nominated for some award (like Featured Wikia)
Support Oppose

Neutral/comments
 * 1) If everyone knows Star Wars Fanon is nominated, then we might win, but on the other hand, that can be considered a tad dishonest.

Star Wars Fanon winning some award (like Featured Wikia)
Support
 * 1) --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Could use the news section on the Main Page, but meh. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Neutral/comments

Awareness of possible site problems
Support
 * 1) Probably the most urgent thing that can be put on Sitenotice is a warning of possible troubles if something is wrong with Wikia or an unresolved system fluke occurs. This should also apply to major changes such as new default skins and experimentation with the wiki's monobook. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Neutral/comments

New partnerships (like that with SW Photonovels or Star Wars RP)
Support Oppose
 * 1) --Victortalk 05:48, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments
 * 1) Better in the Main Page news section, imo. &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Reminders of new policies now in effect
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 * 1) Since experienced users can find these things out by looking at the forums or Recent Changes, Sitenotice helps new users the most. And newcomers are in the most need of learning new rules. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 19:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) --Victortalk 05:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Neutral/comments

CUSWFN news
Support

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 * 1) &mdash;  JM ' 76 ' Ask Archives [[Image:Sabersmilyjm76.jpg|18px]] 23:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) --Victortalk 05:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * On one hand, CUSWFN is "Completely Unofficial." On the other hand, so is the administration's use of Sitenotice. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication 20:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Discussion
Just to be perfectly clear: This is not a policy proposal. This is more like a survey on what the community thinks should be appropriate for Sitenotice. As a reminder: contributors aren't the only ones who visit Star Wars Fanon, and browsers/newbies who are not immediately familiar with the Star Wars Fanon community will be seeing Sitenotice as well. Feel free to add anything that you think could be rightfully posted on Sitenotice to the list above. --C3PO the Dragon Slayer 6,000,000 forms of communication